| Author | Message | ||
     Russmannnn |
I went to ride my 2008 1125r last week after a great ride the day before, and after it started it ran fine for a few seconds and then just let go. Started to make a huge grinding nasty sound. Bike has 17,000 miles on it. This happened with two weeks left on my extend warranty service plan so I took it to my dealer. They tore the motor out and started to see chewed up gears around the stator as will as metal in the oil and still have not found the true cause off the failure in the motor. Harley has came and said they will pay 4500 toward the cost of repairs because that is what I paid for the bike and a new motor cost 6500. If it were under factory warranty I would be able to get a new motor but cant because it is and extend warranty plan. I can get a brand new 2010 motor for 5150 because the dealer is helping me out,but I would foot the whole bill for the tear down of the old one and install of the new one. The price would be around 2000. If you were in my shoes would you pay the extra 2000 for a brand new motor or would you buy a used one in hopes that it hasn't had the crap beat out of it and take the chance on having the same issue again? I love the bike and I am leaning toward getting a new one just looking for other peoples thoughts. I will also be able to keep the old motor so I will have a lot of spare parts. Also if you could please let me know how many miles you have had with your bike and any big repairs you may of had to have done. Here is what it looks like at the dealer now.    | ||
| Russmannnn |
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| Duphuckincati |
So a new 2010 motor for $7150 installed with HD paying $4500 of that leaving you with a bill of $2650? That's not bad all things considered. But the EBR stator upgrade should be worked in somehow too while you're at it. That's another few bucks. Do I have that right? (Message edited by duphuckincati on April 10, 2012) | ||
| Fio835 |
So you said you paid 4500 for it I'm gonna assume you bought it used lol. Couple questions: Where did you buy the bike, dealer/private? When did you buy the bike? What was the mileage on it when you got it? What kind of maintenance and Oil change intervals have you performed? What type of riding do you mainly do? I know from experience working at a Ford dealership with engine failures it's best to ask a lot of questions to prevent in the future/diagnose what happened. | ||
| Russmannnn |
A 2010 motor is 5950 but the dealer is giving it to me at cost for 5150. Harley is paying for the first 4500 of so I will pay around 2000. Fio I bought the bike used from a dealer two years ago. Has 5000 miles on it. I did the 6k and 12k service. I do all street riding not really aggressive not babying it either, just enough to have fun on it. | ||
| Two_seasons |
I would think you saved about $2K at the front end, the purchase price. You put that into the extended warranty. Presently, you don't have a usable bike. HD will pony up $4,500, you pay the rest. Where is the extended warranty coverage in this scenario? What are they willing to cover? Either way, you need an engine. Either way new or used, the labor charges are going to be the same. I'd go new. Break-in per the owners manual and never look back. | ||
| Fio835 |
If you do want to fix it and keep the bike I'd go new 2010 engine. Have you asked about the stator, harness and whatnot? Or are you just willing to take the risk? | ||
| Jdugger |
Take the money, part the bike, buy a different one. | ||
| Reepicheep |
Can you take the $4500 as cash, part out the bike for $$, then just buy one that's running with the money? | ||
| Fio835 |
"Take the money, part the bike, buy a different one." ..Wait will Harley give you the $4500 cash? Or just put that towards the cost of repairs? | ||
| Russmannnn |
I know about them but I know that Harley prob wont pay for any of those upgrades because they are only putting in what I paid for the bike. I will have to just risk it but if any thing the plus side is they are the motors that were never used and ones at the end of production. So they are the latest motors just dont know if any harness or stators where changed at the end. | ||
| Avalaugh |
Can you be paid off, keep the bike and fit your own used motor, pick one up for $1000 | ||
| Rodrob |
Contact EBR. They might have a new motor for less money. Make sure you keep the Stator, Rotor and Cover from your '08 and put them on the new motor. BTW, did your '08 have the oil jet mod done? If it did not, then the dealer who sold it to you could be liable for the failure. | ||
| Nuts4mc |
your riding season is too short back there...do you want to ride or wait?...sorry, have to agree with JD on this one - take the money and run | ||
| Russmannnn |
I do not know what the Oil Jet mod it but the bike has been in the shop may times for warranty work, and the guys there are doing a really good job helping me out. So I wouldn't think that was spiked over | ||
| Pwillikers |
Did you study the t's and c's of the extended warranty? I'd be surprised to see a clause that gave HD the unilateral prerogative of paying less than it costs to actually repair it. | ||
| Russmannnn |
I haven't fully read it yet I do have it and will be doing so later tonight. I cant really complain bout it they are helping a lot just sucks to have to put 2000 into it to get it back. On the plus side it will be like new once it its back. | ||
| Nuts4mc |
the oil jet mod was a recall concerning 5th gear...here is an old thread with a link to the govt's recall site...i believe it only affected 2008 model engines http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/290 431/452758.html | ||
| Ratgin |
Your going to be 7k plus into a bike that still has stator issues and no warranty. Take a cash pay out and leave HD with the carcass. If i was offered 7k for mine  | ||
| Russmannnn |
There is no cash pay out Harley is only going to put in 4500 toward the final bill of the bike once it is fixed. | ||
| Fio835 |
"There is no cash pay out Harley is only going to put in 4500 toward the final bill of the bike once it is fixed." Thats what I thought... The facts are the facts, You own the bike, so you can either take their $4500 and fix it or be left with what? A bike that still needs a engine, regardless new or used its gonna cost $$. Either cut your losses and part it out to try to recoup as much of the 4500 you spent on it. or fix it. Either way your out the $$. If you want my advice I would look at it I paid $4500 two years ago and have ridden this thing 12,000 miles. Yes I have put money into maintenance and whatnot but that's inevitable. I would part it out and recoup as much money as I could. Then take that money ALONG with the $2K I was gonna spend and put that as a down payment on something else. RATGIN is right you'll have 7K tied up in it and only the engine is new. The frame and everything else still has 17k on it. Tough decision, sucks it happened. Cut your losses as cheap as you can. Fio. | ||
| Fio835 |
***The issue you might have is who's gonna fruit the Bill from your dealer for their work they've already done...Consider that as well. | ||
| Fio835 |
***Also head over to the STATOR CHARGING subforums, that might give you some insight into problems down the road with the 09/10 stator. | ||
| Gofastalot99 |
I have some knowledge in this area and there is very likely an LOL - Limit of Liability which is very standard for an extended service contract. The LOL is typically either the current value of the vehicle or the original purchase price of the vehicle - hence the $4,500 cap. Further, you are not very likely to get cash, instead the money would be paid to the repair facility or to you for out-of-pocket repair expenses. It is not like an insurance policy where you can normally get the cash and fend for yourself after that. If it were me, I would put a new motor in it but I would also look to EBR to see what an engine would cost. Putting a used motor would leave you with little to no warranty on the engine. A new motor will likely have at least a 12/12 warranty on it. | ||
| Blake |
It'd be a no brainer for me. New engine and take the $4500 from Harley and have parts. I don't see a down side at all. You might check with EBR to see if they have a better deal on an engine. >>> Your going to be 7k plus into a bike that still has stator issues and no warranty. False. He owns a 2008 model. No stator issues. | ||
| Reepicheep |
Not an issue with Buell anymore, but I hope anyone that ever considers buying an extended warranty from Harley Davidson for any bike finds this thread and reads and understands it first. They charge you, what, $2.5k for the extended warranty? Then when you need it, they will only cover up to the depreciated value of the bike (perhaps fair) but not pay up unless you repair the exiting bike with another $2k out of your pocket (totally unfair). If they want to replace the bike instead of repair it because that is cheaper, they should have that option. Or if they want to just declare the bike a total loss and pay their liability limit, then so be it. But they shouldn't be able to put a cap on the repairs then only pay it if you pay the above and beyond costs. I'm sure it's in their contract to cover this (and many other ways to make sure the deck is WAY stacked in their favor). So it's legal. But I hope people considering buying one of these extended warranties understands the deal they are getting. Now you are stuck though. If you put another $2k into it, you get $4.5k from Harley for the $4.5k you put in (assuming the extended warranty was $2.5k). That's probably your best bet at this point. | ||
| Sportster_mann |
So what is the estimate of the cost of repairs to the motor ? If it is less than the $4,500 that HD are offering you then it will be the cheapest option, the rest can go on labour. | ||
| Russmannnn |
They dont even know the estimate because they cant even get all the parts. There are cam chain guides they are little black plastic pieces one of which broke. The only one they could find was one over in Germany. They were not able to find any in the US, and there was not date listed as to when the part will go into production. Im guessing it would cost a lot more than 4500 to fix the motor. | ||
| Two_seasons |
You'll never get a bike this comfortable, this able, for what you have/will have into it when all is said and done. Sounds like you'll have about $9K into it from your pocket...original price, extended warranty, $2K to finish the job and get it out of the shop. What bike, of this caliber, can you get for $9K? | ||
| Ljm |
I would buy the new motor, keep the bike. If you like it and are comfortable with, hang on to it. After harley pays their part, not such a big deal for another few years of happy riding. Just my .02. Larry |
