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Zoolander
Posted on Sunday, March 04, 2012 - 08:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was installing my new regulator, so I had everything off. I never noticed before, but I saw an unplugged plug:

(This is on the left side of the bike, close to the stator wires. I'm not sure where it comes from exactly but it's somewhere from the front))

I saw a female plug that would fit this male plug on the "fix" harness:


Should these be plugged into each other? I have been experiencing up and down voltage readings like many others have. Could this be a reason why?

Also, if the "fix" harness were not installed, where would this male plug go? I can't see another female plug that would work.
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Dktechguy112
Posted on Sunday, March 04, 2012 - 10:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes, plug those two in.

The male plug goes to the ECM, and the female plug is part of the charging harness.

If those two plugs are not connected, then your bike is running two legs of the stator all the time.
That would explain the voltage fluctuations.
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Zoolander
Posted on Sunday, March 04, 2012 - 11:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Actually, the male plug appears to be coming off the harness and the female plug is coming from the engine. I'm sorry my pics aren't so clear in showing where they are coming from. (I'm not sure if that's important, but just a clarification) In any event, I was not aware that the end that comes from the engine was leading to the ECM.

If only two legs of the stator are working with the plug unconnected, wouldn't that be a good thing overall? That way, less heat is generated. I'm not running any accessories and all my lights work, so would it actually be desirable to leave this unplugged to save the stator? I just installed a new/theoretically better stator (see other post) also so could this be a "fix" for these overheating stators? Am I looking at this wrong?
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Oldog
Posted on Monday, March 05, 2012 - 07:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If only two legs of the stator are working with the plug unconnected, wouldn't that be a good thing overall?

If not charging the battery is ok
or possibly the fix not operating correctly
those wires likely operate the relay ..}

I'm curious, with the 605regulator installed
can you check the ac current from the stator at idle and at say 4k rpm,
I would remove the Fix harness for testing

cold idle just an initial reading
hot idle
lo and hi beam
with fans on
and tell us
I have posted readings on the some measurements threads, Do you have Access to an ammeter?


(Message edited by oldog on March 05, 2012)
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Zoolander
Posted on Monday, March 05, 2012 - 07:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oldog,
I've been riding around for about a year with that little thing unplugged, mostly 30-45 minute trips here and there. I had the bike serviced around that time and they unplugged the "fix" as part of it. I haven't had any issues with a dead battery or dimming lights or anything other than fluctuating voltage readings. Maybe I'm not riding long enough to have the thing die on me? It was explained to me by H-D Customer Service in Milwaukee that the fluctuations were "normal". So I really didn't know where to go from there but just kept riding. Now it makes a little more sense.

"can you check the ac current from the stator at idle and at say 4k rpm...'

my bike is at my buddy's house on his lift so I won't be able to check those things for another couple weeks probably. I'll do it when I get it back and post them up.
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Froggy
Posted on Monday, March 05, 2012 - 07:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Did you remove the intake solenoid from your bike?

Are you running a Race ECM?
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Zoolander
Posted on Monday, March 05, 2012 - 08:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Did you remove the intake solenoid from your bike?

Are you running a Race ECM?"

I have not de-noided...yet. I have the resistor plug from EBR haven't done it yet. Since the unplugged plug leads to the ECM, I'm assuming the new resistor plugs into that?

No race ECM for me. OEM still.
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Froggy
Posted on Monday, March 05, 2012 - 08:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am too lazy to pop my seat off and look, but I believe that is the connector for the solenoid. Part of the stator harness installation is to plug in between where the solenoid connects to the main harness. If you plug the end coming out of the solenoid into that harness, then the other end on the bikes main harness, you should be good to go. You could also just plug in the stator harness to the main harness, then put the resistor on the other end, effectively bypassing the solenoid.
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