| Author | Message | ||
     Tsnake |
I think Im definitely not the only one who switched to.fh012aa regulator. but haven't seen any feed back, unlike those compufireds. I know after the discussions which continues on, the mosfet fh012aa is not like that compufire, it's even worse?! I start with mine, my 09cr has less than 8000km, no signs of burnt stator, But I burnt two oem regulators, first at around 5k, second at more than 6k. then switched to mosfet, almost 1k till now. it is very hot after long rides. and from the beginning, voltage is stable 14.2. now it has became less stable couple weeks ago when it was really hot, 14.8 ( highest before fans turn, normally 14.4) - 13.4 ( idle at red lights) the weather became very cold here, voltage stays around 14.3. no problem starting the bike (sometime saw a blink of 'sys voltage' starting it), no signs of battery drain. so, this is my fh012aa feed back. anyone else please? hope to see some feedbacks with more mileage. | ||
| Bextreme04 |
09' R original VR failed at 4,000mi. Replaced with fh012aa from ebay. 1,000mi later harness relay failed, $15 relay and five minutes and no more issues. Charges at 14.4v all temps and conditions. No 'system voltage', VR stays cool, stator has 40vac on all three phases. | ||
| Rt_performance |
F000 at 10,000 with a first try custom rewind went 5,000 and that stator fried. Back on a factory stator no recall harness. R/R working fine7,500 miles i have riden this year planning one more long ride later this week. | ||
| Nuts4mc |
'08 1125r;FH014 - stock stator...put mine on Dec. last year - run a radar detector/GPS/HIDs...if I remember to shut off the bike with the kill switch...don't need the battery tender - starts up every time. Last time I chk'd (external VOM) - voltage was 13-14 Volts at the battery. | ||
| Jbarron |
09CR with 010 motor. ~3000 miles with this regulator. No problems. Charging is consistent and VR does not get hot. No stator issues. No harness upgrade. | ||
| Rt_performance |
Just burned another stator with mine .... This is getting old. 2500 miles and no harness f00 r/r does charge at idle | ||
| Skntpig |
Nuts...What does that mean if you shut the bike off with the kill switch...What does it do if you just turn off the key? | ||
| Nuts4mc |
Mr Skinned...the instrument panel (IP) (Tach/speedo/idiot lights module) has some kind of electrical drain in it (possibly the burglar alarm/clock/fuel pressure sensor?)if you leave the kill switch in the "On" mode and turn the bike off with just the ignition key switch...this "internal drain" from the IP continues to slowly drain the battery. When you go to start the bike up again...the battery will not be at full voltage (12+ Volts) due to this parasitic drain. The Starter pulls a great deal of volts and amps - causing the rest of the electrical system to go with less....some of that may be going to the ignition system that makes the plugs fire ...if you don't have spark...you don't have combustion. The "Kill" switch in the off position seems to disconnect the battery from the parasitic drain...when you go to start the bike the battery has stored the voltage needed to make the bike start. (NOTE: this applies to 2008 models only - the factory "appears" to have fix'd the issue in the 2009 model production...the hot set up is to get HD to warrentee a replacement IP with 2009 version as it also has a gear indicator) (Message edited by nuts4mc on November 07, 2011) | ||
| Dirty_john |
Fitted the FH unit in the tail section under the seat on an alloy bracket as shown by another Badweb member, drilled a series of air inlet and exhaust holes to ensure cooling, has been fitted to the 09 1125R for over a year and seems ok, next move will be an EBR rotor/stator kit. Forgot to mention that I still have the harness mod fitted which will be removed when I switch to the EBR gear (Message edited by Dirty_john on November 30, 2011) | ||
| Hildstrom |
I switched to the FH012AA at about 3000 miles in an effort to prevent further stator damage. It worked great and had no problem charging at idle. However, 1000 miles later and the San Antonio summer heat proved to be too much for my stator, so I'm looking into a rewind at the moment. http://hildstrom.com/projects/buellregulator/index .html | ||
| Bextreme04 |
you might want to look into having EBR machine the oiling hole into your rotor while you have it apart for the rewind. There was another thread where someone had emailed them and they said they would be doing an exchange service. | ||
| Dirty_john |
EBR stator kit fitted and harness mod removed, charging rate seems fine at the moment, as I would have expected since from cold the harness mod would have been enabling the 3rd leg of the stator anyway, no apparent issues as yet with the reduced output of the EBR stator. | ||
| Bextreme04 |
hopefully you have no more problems now! I'm expecting mine to go out this summer when it gets back up to 100+ degree temps here. Hopefully EBR has their exchange service up and running for rotors by then so I can just get a custom rewind and send the rotor out for machining. | ||
| Avc8130 |
Any chance you took some pics of that kit before installing? Care to share your old rotor for some experimenting? ac | ||
| Dirty_john |
Avc8130 - I am over here in the UK so its not practical to send my rotor to the USA, I will be keeping the 09 stator as a spare should the EBR unit ever need remedial work to be honest. Didn't have any issues with the 09 stator (with harness fitted from 1000 miles) but replaced the standard VR with the FH0012A when the bike had done about 600 miles. The tech at my local dealer has a CR and that totalled the OEM VR at low miles and took its stator with it so changing the VR to the FH0012A was a simple decision to make, as was getting the EBR rotor kit - next on the list is the Oberon clutch slave cylinder. The credit card has been taking some pain lately to fund it all. (Message edited by Dirty_john on January 25, 2012) (Message edited by Dirty_john on January 25, 2012) | ||
| Avc8130 |
John, Did you ask EBR their professional opinion on switching RR? I am not sure what RR they run on the 1190 with the stator setup you just bought. ac | ||
| Timebandit |
they're addressing the problem mechanically, not electrically. | ||
| Avc8130 |
I know, I was just wondering if they had an opinion. I didn't check the 1190 at the IMS to see what RR was on it. For all we know, they have a series on the bike! ac | ||
| Timebandit |
you have looked at the photos of the new dash, haven't you. | ||
| Avc8130 |
Does the dash have a built in RT? | ||
| Timebandit |
I couldn't believe that they took a picture of the dash displaying regulated voltages that *SUCK*. 'nuff said. | ||
| Avc8130 |
Oh, haha. I can. | ||
| Timebandit |
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| Avc8130 |
That sucks? I would say that is typical if not optimistic for most 1125 charging systems! | ||
| Timebandit |
Yes, 13.5VDC sucks. That's a marginally adequate output that will take a long time to charge a battery. Most 12-volt vehicle systems charge in the range of 13.8 - 14.4 VDC. > 14VDC is what it takes to rapidly charge the battery. | ||
| Avc8130 |
I know. I was just pointing out that to this very day, there is no optimal charging system for an 1125 based bike. ac | ||
| Timebandit |
not everyone understands that you're being sarcastic.  did you see my question about tire changers? would appreciate your input. | ||
| Finedaddy1 |
"Yes, 13.5VDC sucks." Is the bike running? If so I don't see the RPM's? I don't think that conclusions can be made based on this photo. As far as what regulator the 1190RS has, just watch the video on Crotch Rocket TV (when Rob visits) and you will see the regulator. Looks alot like the one I removed from my bike... | ||
| Avc8130 |
That's impossible. It is an entirely new bike. | ||
| Timebandit |
That's impossible. It is an entirely new bike. And of course we all know that there are no parts from an 1125 that are compatible with the 1190RS.  |
