| Author | Message | ||
     Duphuckincati |
I do. Watch the video. http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/01/victory-nes s-cafe-victory-getting-a-message/ | ||
| Socalmoe |
Nice, but like everything with the "Ness" name it would be way over priced. (Message edited by socalmoe on January 23, 2012) | ||
| Timebandit |
"NESS" doesn't impress me. The word NESS has always been synonymous with form, not function. I agree that associating the name NESS with a bike will only make it cost more. Why can't those guys at Victory figure out how to design a decent bike without having to hire a Ness to do it for them? | ||
| Sprintst |
Not too much, don't care for the paint scheme Too fancy for a cafe Glad to see more performance orientated stuff on the market (Message edited by sprintst on January 23, 2012) | ||
| Sprintst |
Desperately NEEDS rear sets, that would be so awkward to ride from another forum: Meh. It's a step in the right direction. They can't fool me with the "performance" bit about a bike with a rake angle like that, steel everywhere, conventional forks, single front disc, air cooled with a sloppy ton of space around the motor. Will likely outperform their cruisers, and it looks cool. But a Buell it is not.} (Message edited by sprintst on January 23, 2012) | ||
| Rogue_biker |
It has potential if they repainted it with something less showy. Those wheels finished in black and silver with broken lines doesn't do it for me. They need to re-finish the wheels. While they're at it, curve the exhaust a bit. They look like toy mufflers. I'll reserve judgement on performance until I read a road test. | ||
| Jgarner99 |
>>> Meh. It's a step in the right direction. They can't fool me with the "performance" bit about a bike with a rake angle like that, steel everywhere, conventional forks, single front disc, air cooled with a sloppy ton of space around the motor. Will likely outperform their cruisers, and it looks cool. But a Buell it is not. Wrong! It is not air-cooled, just styled to look that way. The Victory's mill is a water-cooled eight-valve that would overheat very quickly if only cooled by those shallow faux fins. However, that begs the question: Where did the radiator go? (usually found in front of the downtubes). | ||
| Timebandit |
Ness has got no use for radiators, they're ugly. So he just takes 'em off to beautify the bike. | ||
| Trojan |
Harley has something like this in the XR1200X, but we think there are plenty of consumers looking for something that goes a little further in terms of engine performance and light weight. You can't tell me that this bike, with the stock (heavy) Victory chassis and the long stroke Victory motor is any quicker or lighter than an XR1200. Sure it looks nice as a psuedo 1960's cafe racer (although it misses that mark by quite a long way too), but it is NOT a performance bike by any stretch. Just look at the spindly forks and huge rake angle! Ness has got no use for radiators, they're ugly. So he just takes 'em off to beautify the bike. the radiator is under the seat I think. | ||
| Georgehitch17 |
no dual disc setup? I would def want that i'm sure that bikes pretty hefty in the weight department. Looks cool for mass production. I would rather build a cafe then buy one any day though! | ||
| Rogue_biker |
The XR1200 has a rubber mounted engine with down tubes. So it too is a heavy bike especially since it's also air cooled. The XR1200 is basically H-D's version of the Buell Lightning--a BAD version of it with LESS performance. Go figure. | ||
| Steeleagle |
What am I missing? Every model on the Victory web page is air/oil cooled. No water listed anywhere. Looking for oil coolers? I think the bike LOOKS sharp, but a rather gawdy paint job. They've added some bells to imply performance and handling, but it's still a cruiser in cafe' clothing, but it's a nice suit! | ||
| Duphuckincati |
Jeez, tough crowd! How about "For a Victory, does this look good?" | ||
| Froggy |
No, because even for a Victory it looks terrible. | ||
| Timebandit |
Where's the radiator? Don't think there's one under the seat. Where's the battery? Probably under the seat. Or more likely, there isn't one. Looking closely, this bike seems to have a lot of missing parts. Lots of missing wires, lines, no emissions system, no lights. I think this is a Ness concept bike, not a street legal production bike. It's funny, Frank, that you think it looks terrible. Only somebody who thinks that a Buell is good looking could ever say that.  | ||
| Froggy |
I never said anything about Buells being good looking. That bike is a terrible wannabe Harley. | ||
| Rogue_biker |
I would buy it simply because it's NOT a Harley.  | ||
| Brumbear |
The brakes fail it's a single disk and pretty much an X1 that ate to much and the forks suck as well  I like Victory too they could have and should have done better. (Message edited by brumbear on January 25, 2012) | ||
| 0300 |
I don't like it. It is much like those "worn out" "used look" jeans you buy at the mall that are new- not the real thing. I don't think that is the Cafe Racer spirit. | ||
| Notpurples2 |
You can't just take a cruiser raise it a bit, put the bars and pegs in the right place, slap a "cafe style" tail on it and call it a "cafe racer".... oh wait apparently you can. No doubt that thing would have it's ass handed to it by a little CB350 racer everywhere but a straight liine. | ||
| Stirz007 |
My guess is that Zach/Cory see that the market is changing from stretched and low baggers and choppers to a resurgence of cafe bikes and they want to get a piece of the action. It would be nice if Ness moves forward with more curve carvers.... considering what they have traditionally done, this is quite a departure. (Message edited by Stirz007 on January 26, 2012) | ||
| Timebandit |
I will freely admit that I think Arlen Ness made some bikes that were great to look at, but from a sportbike perspective, I think everything that Ness ever produced has handled like a POS. In the sportbike world, I think the name "Ness" carries negative value. Arlen or Cory. They're all about show, not go. When I hear someone's collaborating with a Ness to make a sportbike, it makes me yawn. | ||
| Oldog |
it kills me my tuber is not sporty and that is WTF non functional, heavy noisy .... a variation on a chopper... nice paint though... | ||
| Timebandit |
nice paint though... lipstick on a pig. | ||
| Stirz007 |
"I will freely admit that I think Arlen Ness made some bikes that were great to look at, but from a sportbike perspective, I think everything that Ness ever produced has handled like a POS." Time - agreed. I'm not defending the bike that's the subject of the thread - I'm not impressed either. But at the same time, I would like to see more interest on the part of 'main-stream' custom builders to head in the Roland Sands direction: that being something that not only looks cool, but handles and is fun to ride. (and the Victory may not be quite there yet)    | ||
| Oldog |
lipstick on a pig.) Yep I agree, still nice lipstic | ||
| Ridenusa4l |
between the single disk and the non inverted forks....its just ridiculously impractical, if they go through the effort of a TTX shock but a standard not inverted fork that just seems counter-productive, lazy, and down right stupid. I would take an XR1200X if i had to pick between the 2 just based on a performance standpoint....maybe the victory in the XR but as far as performance in handling and praticality i feel the victory fails... which is sad cause i hate HD... Jake | ||
| Nm5150 |
I agree with 007.I would love to have one of Roland Sands creations with some really cool designs and sportbike brakes and suspension.He was a racer and most of his bikes have some performance built in. | ||
| Hardcorps |
I think it is a step in the right direction. Functional no, good looking cafe ehh? But if I wanted a functional cafe from a name brand I would have to go with the Triumph Thruxton. I would love to see Victory start to beat Harley in every catagory, I think they have already won in touring bikes and cruisers. |
