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Timebandit
| | Posted on Monday, November 28, 2011 - 01:09 pm: | 
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75,000 miles! Damn. I need to move to someplace where it's warm year-round. |
Avc8130
| | Posted on Monday, November 28, 2011 - 01:13 pm: |
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Timebandit,
I agree 100%. Right now I am not 100% satisfied or confident in either of the 2 options.
The only thing leaning me towards Roadster (reselling Cycle Electrics) is that Jack DOES respond to emails. I have also never heard of them denying a warranty claim like Compufire. Compufire straight up told me they offer NO product suitable for use on the 1125.
I get the feeling Jack is not an engineer, but more of a "garage guy" who was trying to help other bikers but got fed a bunch of bad marketing hype much like we are trying to dispel in this thread.
ac |
Timebandit
| | Posted on Monday, November 28, 2011 - 01:32 pm: |
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Wait a second -- I typed "Roadster cycle" but I thought I was talking about the Cycle Electric rep. Maybe I was too harsh.
I can't fault the Roadster cycle guy for having an understanding that's based on what the Cycle Electric factory guys might have told him. We can't expect everyone to know what's inside of the black box, so everyone has to rely on the marketing hype to some degree. But I like the idea of cleaning up some of the mess so that the confusion goes away.
My preference would be to work with someone who is interested in being helpful, is willing to answer your questions, and is inclined to offer warranty support. I'd have no interest in someone who dodges questions and reneges on warranty coverage. So my choice would be pretty clear.
Unfortunately, you still get to pay your money and take your chances... and report back with your results so that everyone else here can benefit from your willingness to be the guinea pig.
When it comes to Compufire flat-out denying warranty coverage on the 1125, it makes me wonder about the voltage ratings on the parts they're using. Stator voltage rises as a function of RPM. Voltage at 5000 RPM isn't as high as voltage at 10,500 RPM or 13,000 RPM. If someone were designing vregs for H-D applications, they could get by using cheaper, low-voltage rated parts that are suitable for a 5k rev limit. You couldn't do that when designing vregs for sport bikes that rev to 13,000. You have to use high voltage MOSFET in those applications. The decision to deny warranty on the 1125 has always made me wonder if someone is just sourcing the least expensive parts suitable for a low RPM application. For the 1125 I'd put more faith in someone that makes purpose-built products for high RPM apps.
edit: fixed a typo.
(Message edited by TimeBandit on November 28, 2011) |
Duphuckincati
| | Posted on Monday, November 28, 2011 - 01:35 pm: |
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FWIW, I live in a rural area so have spent almost no time in traffic/town, almost always am between 4500rpm and 8500, mine lasted 8000 miles. (although my odo and speedo read high so it's more like 7000)
I don't recall reading of any change in the r/r between 08's and 09's, or issues for the 08, so with the lower output of the kit should there be less likelihood of a problem with the stock r/r? |
Duphuckincati
| | Posted on Monday, November 28, 2011 - 01:50 pm: |
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Just to keep us all on the same page I brought this forum topic to Jack/Roadstercycle's attention so he can respond. |
Timebandit
| | Posted on Monday, November 28, 2011 - 02:45 pm: |
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The stock R/R has already been discussed ad nauseum. Nightsky pretty much put that subject to bed so it's pointless to keep rehashing it. |
Avc8130
| | Posted on Monday, November 28, 2011 - 04:49 pm: |
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I started this thread not to discuss RR's for the sake of upgrading the RR as a piece-part, but for the sake of saving/prolonging the stator.
Please keep the thread focus on the merits of the Compufire, Cycle Electric (Roadster Cycle), or any other NON-SHUNT RR for the purpose of STATOR PRESERVATION.
ac |
Finedaddy1
| | Posted on Monday, November 28, 2011 - 08:01 pm: |
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Total miles on Compufire V/R 2,890 no issues @ this time.
I'll probably go w/the EBR fix and use this V/R with that upgrade also. |
Avc8130
| | Posted on Monday, November 28, 2011 - 08:06 pm: |
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Finedaddy,
Where do you have it mounted? Does it get warm?
ac |
Finedaddy1
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 09:40 am: |
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Stock location, yes it gets warm, but not so hot that I can fry an egg on it. |
Timebandit
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 02:22 pm: |
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When assessing the meaning of whether or not it gets warm, it would really help to know how many amps you're using. With a series vreg the heat produced will be functions of load and cooling airflow.
Without knowing your load, a subjective heat assessment is really hard to interpret -- heat is a datapoint on the Y axis. to put it in perspective, we need to know the load coordinate on the X axis.
Knowing the load would be especially useful for someone like AVC who is interested in maximal loading. |
Avc8130
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 02:50 pm: |
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Timebandit,
Did you see my post in your other thread? I am 90% sure I found a reasonable source for the connectors you need!
Finedaddy1,
What loads are you applying? Stock bike? Any heated grips/gear?
ac |
Finedaddy1
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 05:12 pm: |
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Avc8130 - Never taken a load test, FMF pipe, EBR ECM, no additional gear (heated grips etc).
I have posted my V/R temps in a previous thread somewhere, I want to say 140°(max) this was done with a digital heat thermometer pointed at it in July.
(Message edited by finedaddy1 on November 29, 2011) |
Timebandit
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 06:28 pm: |
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brights off? |
Finedaddy1
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 07:19 pm: |
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Timebandit - Yes, brights off. |
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