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Georgehitch17
| Posted on Monday, August 22, 2011 - 04:56 pm: |
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Hey guys other than being fed up with this belt drive where can I find a replacement for less than 182!!!!! Thanks |
D_adams
| Posted on Monday, August 22, 2011 - 04:58 pm: |
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Used maybe? |
Rogue_biker
| Posted on Monday, August 22, 2011 - 06:20 pm: |
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I don't understand how you can be fed up with belt drive? I love mine! Clean, quiet, maintenance free and no drivetrain lash! (Message edited by rogue_biker on August 22, 2011) |
Georgehitch17
| Posted on Monday, August 22, 2011 - 06:23 pm: |
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Because IMO its unreliable! That was the third belt snapped. Do I run the the crap out of the bike? YES, but I should be able to! Im not abusing it I Pulled in the clutch shifted from first at about 9k rpm to 2nd and touched the throttle with no response!!!! Im very fed up with that system. Belts have benefits but reliability isn't one of them!!!!!! |
Froggy
| Posted on Monday, August 22, 2011 - 06:34 pm: |
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Get your swingarm checked out, it may be twisted causing undue stress on the belt. Both my 1125s are over 16k without any belt issues, Jdugger takes his on the track regularly without issue either. The vast majority of us will have fantastic reliability. |
Georgehitch17
| Posted on Monday, August 22, 2011 - 06:38 pm: |
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Something is fishy Froggy! I love alot of things about the belt but this snapping is killing me! What would cause my swingarm to be twisted? I have the belt theres no stripped teeth its a perfect cut in between to teeth! |
D_adams
| Posted on Monday, August 22, 2011 - 07:05 pm: |
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Mine's got over 25k on the clock so far and it's been abused a little. No signs of it going south just yet though. |
Daggar
| Posted on Monday, August 22, 2011 - 07:11 pm: |
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I've got over 24k on mine. |
Georgehitch17
| Posted on Monday, August 22, 2011 - 07:31 pm: |
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I wheelie alot but I dont dump the clutch, It didnt strip any teeth off at all just a clean break! |
Sprintst
| Posted on Monday, August 22, 2011 - 07:38 pm: |
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Amen. All streetbikes should be belt I don't understand how you can be fed up with belt drive? I love mine! Clean, quiet, maintenance free and no drivetrain lash! I wheelie, accelerate hard, and weigh more than probably anyone here, so my belt sees the stress (Message edited by sprintst on August 22, 2011) |
Rpm4x4
| Posted on Monday, August 22, 2011 - 07:46 pm: |
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Ive ridden over 36k between my 2 Buells and never had a belt issue. I do have a theory that hard down shifts stress the belt. |
Zac4mac
| Posted on Monday, August 22, 2011 - 07:47 pm: |
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Save your nickels for a chain-drive kit, Erik Buell Racing sells them. I'm completely sold on belts and cast wheels with no intention on going back to "old tech". I have over 10k miles on a belt that was rolled up tight, under my seat for 2 months/ 2k miles. It refuses to die.
I snapped one on my Uly chasing prairie dogs. I lost 2 on my Firebolt, but now I know they are fragile and "I" compromised them both. The 1125 belts are very NOT fragile. Zack |
Zac4mac
| Posted on Monday, August 22, 2011 - 07:56 pm: |
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BTW, I now carry a used belt as a spare in the spot in the pic. I also carry all the tools necessary to change the belt, roadside, in 45-60 minutes. Biggest hurdle was the axle, so I modified a 7/8" combination wrench so I could carry it too.
Z |
Rogue_biker
| Posted on Monday, August 22, 2011 - 07:57 pm: |
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With my enhanced tool kit and my tire repair kit, there simply is no room for a spare belt under the seat of my 1125R. I don't ride mine that hard though and I avoid riding in dirty roads. I don't wheelie, I don't down shift near redline, I don't drag race. I can ride fast but not nearly as much as I like. My belt on both my 1125R and my Firebolt have never had any issues. In fact, back when I first got my 1125R, I had a fastener come loose and rub the crap out of my belt and make a horrific noise while riding. I thought for sure my original belt would fail after that but so far so good after 5k miles after that incident! I bought a spare belt but so far, the original belt has held up. I also have the factory belt guards in place. |
Boogiman1981
| Posted on Monday, August 22, 2011 - 08:05 pm: |
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George there has to be something that's causing the failures. these belts don't snap for no reason. alignment rough spot on gears etc. |
Froggy
| Posted on Monday, August 22, 2011 - 08:06 pm: |
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George, I wish I had an easy answer. It could be anything. Crash damage, factory defect, hell it could be something else causing harm to your belts, like a defective front pulley shock absorber. Either way, changing your belts more often than the oil is not normal. |
Jdugger
| Posted on Monday, August 22, 2011 - 09:52 pm: |
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Something is twisted, that's for sure. I'm getting roughly 25k *track* miles from each belt. The belt drive is good stuff for a street application. If there's a BIG disadvantage to the belt drive, it's that it munches bearings and Mg race wheels from the tension vs a chain. (And, of course, the lack of gearing options.) The weight of that rear pulley isn't insignificant, but I consider that the price to pay for the simplicity and cleanliness of the belt system. |
Dmfb88
| Posted on Monday, August 22, 2011 - 09:55 pm: |
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Mine snapped at 16000 miles but I feel I am hard on my bike. I weigh 230 and power wheelie often and race a lot against my buddies. I also take off hard almost all the time I love the feel of the massive torque. My belt had cracks in it between some of teeth. It looked like they were just about to rip off, then it snapped on one of my hard take offs. It scared the crap out of me. I thought I blew my trans. |
Sprintst
| Posted on Monday, August 22, 2011 - 10:00 pm: |
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George - do you have the factor guards in place? what chain lube are you using on the belt? (Message edited by sprintst on August 22, 2011) |
Rt_performance
| Posted on Monday, August 22, 2011 - 10:41 pm: |
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I know of 3 First hand experinces of 09 1125r belt breaking between 15-16000 Mine and two other friends grabbing second and pop goes the belt. |
Georgehitch17
| Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 09:25 am: |
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It happened when I grabbed second! This belt had roughly 6k miles on it and was less than a year old! all factory guards are in place and I was on a clean road. The the bike fell once on the opposite side but landed on a box full of clothes no damage was done the bike never touched concrete! |
Georgehitch17
| Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 11:44 am: |
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Local HD dealer sold it for 165! I just wish I could figure out what caused it! would a alignment issue let it go for 6k miles before snapping? |
Jdugger
| Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 11:52 am: |
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That or something rough rubbing on it... |
Rogue_biker
| Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 12:01 pm: |
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I think if there was something rubbing on the belt, it would make a whining noise. The rougher the object, the louder the noise, which will increase and decrease with speed. I had that happen to me. I think on my next tire change I will make a thorough inspection. Or maybe just put my new spare belt on for good measure. My bike has 18k miles. |
Dannybuell
| Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 12:27 pm: |
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next time you buy a belt look at the instructions, specifically about bending and kinking the belts. The under the seat belt in Zac4mac's picture shows a mishandled belt. |
Nuts4mc
| Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 01:02 pm: |
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…brought mine home from the salvage yard in dec last year…initial inspection revealed a hole in the middle of the belt ( about 3/16 dia) a) there was a big nick on the idler pulley – it is “hard” anodized – had to use a sharpening “stone” to smooth out the nick – GH17, inspect your pulley b) some of the plastic belt guards come too close to the edges of the belt – took a Dremel and a rotary file to the “ribs/edges” on the guards that came close to the belt c) Put on a new belt …and about 50 miles later the rear wheel bearing let go – GH17 check your wheel brgs…could be “loose” causing a mis-alignment ( especially when torque is applied) and with the torque these motors put out – the belt could catch an edge, get cut and snap d) Check the pulleys – the pulleys are hard, but small rocks can be harder (especially granite like you might have up there in O H 10) and imbed into one of the pulleys causing a sharp edge to wear/cut the belt over a period of time e) Change out the pulleys with a new/used set Good luck |
Georgehitch17
| Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 02:02 pm: |
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Thanks for the info guys. I was really pissed yesterday because the 1125r Is so close to being the "best buy" in used motorcycles in my eyes. If it just had the reliability of your modern day jap bikes! |
Blake
| Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 02:20 pm: |
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Who's to say it doesn't? |
Jdugger
| Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 03:19 pm: |
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In stock trim, these are really reliable bikes IMHO. They have quirks, for sure, but overall are very dependable in my experience. |
Stimbrell
| Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 04:09 pm: |
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One year old and less than 5K miles 09 1125R (hard to do more miles while it is in the dealer for repair so often) Coolant leak Clutch fluid leak Broken wire in Ignition switch Stator replaced Rotor replaced Obviously a stellar example of reliability, sigh! Winner of the most unreliable vehicle ever owned in my life award by a very large margin. |