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Jasbiz66
Posted on Saturday, August 13, 2011 - 04:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ok so I believe that I was dooped pretty good here, I bought this Jardine slip on off of an add here in the classifieds, I had no idea it was this bad.
Here is the link:
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/21/636489.html?1307396540
Anyway, Here are some pictures of the exhaust. The things I am wondering are, can I re-rivet the hanger bracket? Can I buy another carbon fiber tip? Is the outer pipe supposed to rotate separately from the can?
Thanks









Yes that is a hole in the pipe.......
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Trbulnt
Posted on Saturday, August 13, 2011 - 05:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Should be able to buy a new tip, Drill the rivet out and install a new one.

Hope you didn't pay too much for that pipe. I liked that the add says the tip is scuffed when that looks like a hole!!

Always get pictures of an item before you buy.
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Stirz007
Posted on Monday, August 15, 2011 - 10:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

FWIW - I'd be pretty pissed. "scuffed, but OK" is not what I'd consider an accurate statement. Maybe Jardine has replacements for tip, header dings could maybe be knocked out from inside, not sure how to weld titanium (no experience with Ti), hanger could be re-riveted with SS (especially if you are replacing end cap anyway). Good luck and sorry about the hard lesson.
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D_adams
Posted on Monday, August 15, 2011 - 10:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The header pipe is ss, not Ti. Yes, they sell parts, at least AFAIK. Welding Ti requires a full chamber to do it right. I have some stuff that _might_ work on it without back gassing the exposed side, I haven't tried it on Ti though. It works well on ss, although it leaves a pretty nasty looking residue. Doesn't hurt anything, it's just all black and bubbled up.

Also, NO, the pipe is not supposed to rotate separate from the shell. Something else is broken inside.

(Message edited by d_adams on August 15, 2011)
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Stirz007
Posted on Monday, August 15, 2011 - 11:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dean -

I couldn't tell what the header was made of. Could you just purge the interior with shielding gas, cap the ends, and go for it? (I used a similar process when I made the SS headers for my purple shoveltail - no failures so far....).

JM
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Dosmie
Posted on Monday, August 15, 2011 - 11:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would definitely purge if you have the means. It's real touchy when it comes to dirt, purge, temp while welding.
Dean's stuff will work also, just not quite as well. Solarflux?
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D_adams
Posted on Monday, August 15, 2011 - 12:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Purging is preferred when a chamber is not available. Yes, solarflux B is the stuff. It used to be a WW-2 military secret I think. It works well enough.
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Jasbiz66
Posted on Monday, August 15, 2011 - 01:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just checked with Jardine, the tip is $56....
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Froggy
Posted on Monday, August 15, 2011 - 01:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you payed by Paypal, I would start the process to get reimbursed for goods not being sold as advertised.
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Georgehitch17
Posted on Monday, August 15, 2011 - 01:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I hope you got this super cheap!
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Manxman500tt
Posted on Monday, August 15, 2011 - 04:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had a jardine slip on , on my old xb the can blew apart on the freeway taking out my rear tire . The pipe was a few weeks old. When i told jardine about it they told me i must have my fuel air ratio off. So f&*k those guys! sell that muffler and get something made with quality
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Dosmie
Posted on Monday, August 15, 2011 - 04:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here are some quick tips if you want to give it a go.
http://www.weldingtipsandtricks.com/welding-titani um.html
Your biggest hurdle will probably getting the ID clean enough.
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Stirz007
Posted on Monday, August 15, 2011 - 04:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dosmie - cool link, thanks. Other than shielding, how is Ti to weld? I actually like 304/316 SS better than mild for TIG process, and almost hate Aluminum. What is Ti welding 'most' similar to?
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Kinder
Posted on Monday, August 15, 2011 - 05:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I agree with Foggy... that pipe looks to be if quite rough shape. I wouldn't bother with the welding and just get your money back.
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D_adams
Posted on Monday, August 15, 2011 - 08:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I haven't done it myself, although it looks to be very similar to welding SS. Color of the material when you get done seems to be the most important part. The welders I worked with at my last job were unbelievably good. All of them could walk up and start going at it cold but make it look like they'd been at it all day. Most could weld 100x better than what I do in their sleep, but they've been welding for over 30 years on average. Most of them put out "machine" quality welds every time, only it was on very complex parts for aircraft.
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Albert666
Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2011 - 07:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ti welding is much the same as stainless, more amps though, and the rod feels like it wants to stick to the weld pool, pretty simple though
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Stirz007
Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 09:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks - I'd like to add Ti to my "can-do" list, but I'm thinking it might be a bit spendy to work through the learning curve (material ain't cheap)
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