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Buelldr
| Posted on Saturday, August 06, 2011 - 06:31 pm: |
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Well last night my best friend called me over for a meet and greet with his new bike. Ducatti 848 EVO. Very gorgeous machine. Anyhow the thing has an undertail exhaust and as we were riding I started thinking how sexy the 1125 would look with an undertail...anyone ever done this? Have pics? Know if it can be done? Post pics if ya got them. |
99buellx1
| Posted on Saturday, August 06, 2011 - 07:12 pm: |
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Anything can be done, even though I wouldn't. |
Ridegreen2oo
| Posted on Saturday, August 06, 2011 - 07:19 pm: |
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Hope you have your fire suit on for this conversation... |
D_adams
| Posted on Saturday, August 06, 2011 - 07:35 pm: |
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It's been done and it wasn't pretty. Also have seen one with cans on both sides similar to an SV1000, again, it just didn't look right. I've thought about doing it, but the wide swingarm on the 1125 just simply doesn't work well with it. |
Ridegreen2oo
| Posted on Saturday, August 06, 2011 - 07:39 pm: |
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I think it'd look cool exiting under the passenger seat, but my butt gets hot enough on this bike as it is |
Sprintst
| Posted on Saturday, August 06, 2011 - 08:37 pm: |
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My Triumph Sprint ST had undertail - the seat gets a *little* warmer (not tons w/good shielding) - your jacket reeks, you get a lot of exhaust smell in your clothing - old school, been tried, the underbike exhaust is the current trend (Message edited by sprintst on August 06, 2011) |
Guambra2001
| Posted on Saturday, August 06, 2011 - 08:53 pm: |
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i would like to see some pictures and figure it out for myself. |
D_adams
| Posted on Saturday, August 06, 2011 - 09:01 pm: |
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Someone posted pics on buellxb I think as they built it, both undertail version and the side mounted ones. |
Albert666
| Posted on Sunday, August 07, 2011 - 05:47 am: |
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getting the pipes up past the wide swingarm is the problem as d adams says, look how narrow a ducati is at that point, i personally don't really like the exhaust on the 1190rs but theres reasons for doing it, i think buells have underslung exhausts and thats it, thats the space i have in which to work, look at the new ducati 1199 underslung exhaust, although it may not end up like that
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Mountainstorm
| Posted on Sunday, August 07, 2011 - 07:39 am: |
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I had to rub my eyes vigorously. Maybe I need more coffee, but the lines of the bodywork on that Duc look a lot like the 1125r. |
Duphuckincati
| Posted on Sunday, August 07, 2011 - 12:21 pm: |
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All the full fairing bikes look pretty much alike to my eyes. Back in the old days the silhouettes from bike to bike were distinctive. Norton to Triumph to Ducati to BMW to Vincent, you could tell instantly. Just sayin...not a fan of plastic coating. |
Ridenusa4l
| Posted on Sunday, August 07, 2011 - 03:39 pm: |
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thats becuase that is a photochopped daytona with some tid bits on there, becuase ducati is using a completely different rear suspension and fairing, however the exhaust is under the bike just doesnt look like that one. Jake |
Albert666
| Posted on Sunday, August 07, 2011 - 03:44 pm: |
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Ridenusa4l
| Posted on Sunday, August 07, 2011 - 03:46 pm: |
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so the exhaust is right then....however you cant over look the swing arm though, when was the last premium ducati to have a full swing arm? lol Jake |
Albert666
| Posted on Sunday, August 07, 2011 - 03:59 pm: |
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you got sharper eyes than me to spot it was 675, should guessed by the swingarm after everyone slated the 999 full swingarm |
Milezero5
| Posted on Monday, August 08, 2011 - 07:33 am: |
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the 999r was the one of the last ones with a full swingarm. A full undertail exhaust if done right would cost a crap ton of money, by then you could of had a full ebr system. That new duc looks quite mean. |
Jens
| Posted on Monday, August 08, 2011 - 10:46 am: |
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Regarding the question. We have an underseat setup for the 1190RR made because we need to race with an extra low noiselevel at Assen GP track. The XB Termignoni we use is far away from being stylish, but it cost us no power and thats why it is there. For sure a setup with an Duc or BMW exhaustcan is possible and would please the eyes more. (-: In 2010 we were going around the swingarm what worked not so well. The 2011, "through swingarm" setup worked very good. Click on the pic in the racereports to get some high resolution pics. 2010 version: http://www.pegasusraceteam.com/html/assen_2010.htm l 2011 version: http://www.pegasusraceteam.com/html/assen_2011.htm l |
D_adams
| Posted on Monday, August 08, 2011 - 11:19 am: |
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Most guys are NOT going to go that far just to get an undertail exhaust.
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Chessm
| Posted on Monday, August 08, 2011 - 08:13 pm: |
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you knwo what would be even cooler? if we made the airbox cover a gas tank! maybe put normal brakes on the front wheel. then we can put yama-zuki-onda-cati stickers on the new tank. |
Juniorkirk
| Posted on Monday, August 08, 2011 - 08:17 pm: |
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Hell, lets put the I4 in it too why we are at it, make it TOTALLY original |
Arcticcr
| Posted on Monday, August 08, 2011 - 08:44 pm: |
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I'd rather see this in practices than an under tail. http://www.google.com/patents?id=kUPYAAAAEBAJ&prin tsec=abstract&zoom=4#v=onepage&q&f=false If the link doesn't work, http://www.google.com/patents key work "MOTORCYCLE WITH MOVABLE EXHAUST SYSTEM Erik Buell" (Message edited by arcticcr on August 08, 2011) |
Spike240sx
| Posted on Monday, August 08, 2011 - 09:16 pm: |
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I have to agree with Arcticcr! |
Juniorkirk
| Posted on Monday, August 08, 2011 - 10:39 pm: |
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I second that, a muffler IN the swingarm, awesome idea, just dont know how the axle/bearings would handle all that heat. But that is an awesome idea |
Hybridmomentspass
| Posted on Monday, August 08, 2011 - 11:33 pm: |
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" just dont know how the axle/bearings would handle all that heat. " Im curious how much heat there would be back there. The way the 1125 header pipes are laid out, there is quite a bit of piping before it'd reach the swingarm, maybe enough to cool it down a great amount before it got back there? I guess the test would be to see how hot the muffler gets after a ride, I've never checked. Im sure its hot, but hot enough to toast bearings? I dont know. And maybe thats A reason (not THE, but one of) they didnt follow through with the idea. Good point Junior. |
Xb9er
| Posted on Tuesday, August 09, 2011 - 12:08 am: |
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Dosmie
| Posted on Tuesday, August 09, 2011 - 06:34 am: |
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That seat is great! Any info who made it?Is that a Lightning tail on that? |
Hybridmomentspass
| Posted on Tuesday, August 09, 2011 - 08:08 am: |
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Yeah, looks to be a lightning tail, which in my opinion - if they were going to reuse XB parts on the 1125 like they did, they shouldve used the lightning tail on the CR, just looks so good. I like the exhaust on that, but dont like how they did it (this is just personal opinion). I just dont care for the two 90* angles at the seat for the left pipe, I think it looks bad. But like those mufflers on the bike |
Father_of_an_era
| Posted on Tuesday, August 09, 2011 - 11:53 pm: |
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I also like the canisters but there has to be a better way to run the pipe. Plus, I think it would look much better if the cans were closer together. Just mi opinion though. |
2008xb12scg
| Posted on Wednesday, August 10, 2011 - 12:13 pm: |
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So they have a header and exhaust. Then they added another header and exhaust to it? To each there own, The thing that I liked about the buells was not having the pipes so overwhelming |
D_adams
| Posted on Wednesday, August 10, 2011 - 12:51 pm: |
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Kinda makes you wonder how close the swingarm will get to it and possibly either dent or crush the pipe when it gets fully compressed. Pretty looking for a show piece but I doubt you could get away with the crossover with the stock tail section. That one isn't something I would try myself and it's cleaner looking than what I can do. |
Father_of_an_era
| Posted on Wednesday, August 10, 2011 - 10:07 pm: |
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Just too much exposed pipe for me. |
Jens
| Posted on Thursday, August 11, 2011 - 06:41 am: |
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The original 1125R dogbone exhaust solution is very well constructed and regarding packaging not to top. The problem is that with conventional tubes / canisters, welded or rivet, it is not possible to realize a underengine solution what follow the needs of roadclearance, performance and silence. If you like to go around, the 1125 swingarm volume dictates that you need to go up with 2 small tubes, like the Erik Buell Racing 1190 RS, if you like to give the riders right foot enough clearance. Customizing solutions were roadclearance and/or performance donīt count or extreme loud setupīs like the 1190RR racecan of course donīt have problems. A Brittenstyle Boombox might be the way to go. |