| Author | Message | ||
     Froggy |
Because some Harley dealers want to sell them? I don't see what the issue is. My local HD dealer is also an Erik Buell Racing dealer. | ||
| Avc8130 |
Does being sold to the dealer count as "sold"? Anyone else notice the price tag? $47,995...looks a bit more than MSRP. It is "carbon", but I thought that was going to be ~$40k. ac (Message edited by avc8130 on July 18, 2011) | ||
| Froggy |
MSRP is $39,999, Carbon Package adds $4,000. The dealer is marking it up a few bucks, but thats not unheard of. I do not know the dealer cost for the bike, but I doubt it has a lofty profit margin like a $40k Electraglide. | ||
| 01_turbowolf |
Markup is nothing new, especially for rare vehicles. We dealer traded for a laguna seca boss not too long ago for 10k over sticker. Customer paid around 65k for a 47k mustang. So couple grand over ain't bad. Shoulda seen what our GT sold for in 05 | ||
| Court |
I ordered a new car last Thursday that is not being "officially" announced until about 4:00pm this afternoon . . wish all I had to pay was a $3,000 premium.  | ||
| Davegess |
SOLD as far as the race organizations are concerned is sold to a dealer. Most vehicles are not sold from the factory tot he consumer but to the dealer. The dealer owns it so it is sold. Why an H-D dealer? Some of the H-D dealers were and will be very good. The problem before was partly because H-D pushed some guys to sell Buell who had no business doing it. There were also guys who thought it would help then get more big twins and a few who thought they would be as easy to sell as Harleys. None of these guys are gonna sell these new bikes. | ||
| Reepicheep |
+1 Dave! While some of my worst motorcycle experiences have been at some HD shops, some of my best experiences have also been at HD shops. | ||
| 2008xb12scg |
I was hoping it would come in the crate that converts to a work bench. But mostly I was hoping the lotto ticket I checked this morning would be a winner so I could buy two. One to ride and one to put in the living room and stare at. | ||
| Court |
These are really exciting times. | ||
| Indy_bueller |
Didn't Erik have to sell 100 of them to start racing? | ||
| Father_of_an_era |
I thought that he had to sell 100 of them as well. I take it that Erik has pre-sold them but has not completed the build on all of them as of yet? | ||
| Avc8130 |
If "sold" means the dealer has ordered them (which Davegess says is true), 100 probably are "sold". | ||
| Froggy |
No. Appendix G | ||
| Dnlink |
So for $40K you get a $50K+ motorcycle,Nice. Makes me wish I didn't piss away so much money over the years. | ||
| Freight_dog |
More likely for $40K you get a $20K motorcycle. If the price limit had been $100K you would be seeing a $100K bike that looks a lot like the current one. Erik needs racing money, he's not doing charity. | ||
| Court |
"Sold" . . when you are a manufacturer . . means "Sold" . . in ALL cases (by law) to a dealer. "Sold" . . when you are a dealer . . means (kinda) "Sold to a Customer". There are some caveats that have created problems, most notably with 1997 Buells when dealers "sold" bikes to themselves in order to qualify for enhanced Harley-Davidson allocations. "Sold", at the dealer level, can be interpreted to mean "punched" which is the date the MSO is registered to an owner and the warranty period commences. Always good to ask, particularly with things like "executive demo" and "factory" cars if the warranty has been "punched". NOTE: Given recent events I'll qualify this by simply saying this is my PERSONAL OPINION and could well be total unadulterated crap. | ||
| Fast1075 |
"More likely for $40K you get a $20K motorcycle."   | ||
| Froggy |
Please spec out the cost of the suspension and wheels alone, tell me how much you have left to build a motorcycle for $20k total. | ||
| Reepicheep |
Sweet! So when Alta Vista and Yahoo were the kings of web searching, and some no name Stanford project run by guys with funny names was running free with no adds or revenue of any kind... I guess they weren't in it for the money either. Whew! Glad you let us know! Somebody go tell Google they will never make any money with that kind of approach. Now if you will pardon me, I need to go check my NetFlix subscription. Now that they are dominating the market, they recently changed prices so that they can actually afford the "ship to your door" part of their subscription plans. I doubt they will ever make any money either.  | ||
| Buellmojo |
"Please spec out the cost of the suspension and wheels alone, tell me how much you have left to build a motorcycle for $20k total. : )" General Public (consumer) cost cannot be figured in as actual cost of a manufacturer's build cost, unless a complete build sheet is up to date and present at the time of the comparison...Impossible to tally, pure speculation, unless you have these figures in your hands, and would like to share the breakdown of the hard numbers of the actual build cost of the E-B-R 1190RS from their Accountants. | ||
| D_adams |
Doesn't say anything about "sold" in there, just "produced". Essentially, they'd have to put together 100 bikes, figure them at the $40k mark, so the entry fee to race a new bike in the AMA (not counting all the EPA and/or federal crap) is $4 million. Wish I had some spare $$ myself, I'd buy at least 2 of them. | ||
| Court |
Most of the foregoing is inaccurate or marginally accurate at best. A reading of the AMA rules as well as federal regulations will straighten anyone out who need more information. There are no games, no silly semantics . . . it's really pretty simple. . . . or at least it was until it gets caught in the intergrinder. Carry on. | ||
| Blake |
>>> More likely for $40K you get a $20K motorcycle. Unfortunately, having no clue is a poor deterrent to posting bewilderingly ignorant commentary on the internet. How many hours of engineering, analysis, and testing to achieve the EPA commercial public product, and how much in tooling and non-recurring up front capital to get it all built? | ||
| Anonymous |
Some of you can build this bike for $20K? Call us; we need your expertise. Really. | ||
| Rt_performance |
"Some of you can build this bike for $20K? Call us; we need your expertise. Really." I can't build it for 20k But i Love haveing a job building those.... Look at the size of Erik Buell Racing not like they are getting a production discount. 100/per year. Most manufacters charge extra for so few. Keep up the good work Erik Buell Racing i will be buying my second ever new vehicle from you eventully (first ever was my 1125r and i'm 36) | ||
| Hootowl |
Send me all the parts and I'll build it for free. I get to keep it though. And if history is any guide, it'll be even lighter that the ones assembled at Erik Buell Racing. I ALWAYS have extra parts | ||
| Lonz |
v. Motorcycles submitted for American SuperBike homologation approval may not exceed a retail price of $40,000 U.S. How does a price of 47,995.00 retail work under this rule? | ||
| Fio835 |
Im gonna throw in my .02 here. Take Ford Motor Co. for example. Every vehicle Ford builds is already Sold to a dealer. Ford sells the vehicle to the dealer, makes their money and are out of the picture. Erik Buell Racing sells the bike to the dealer and thats where they make their profit and sale. The dealer sells the bike to the customer. So the 100 bikes Erik has to sell are sold to the dealers or customers directly. He doesnt have to wait for every 1190 to sell at a HD dealer. So this HD dealer bought it from Erik Buell Racing and are selling it at their own business. Dealers are private businesses that just so happen to sell cars and bikes. | ||
| Froggy |
The 1190RS has a MSRP of $39,999 according to EBracing.com. This bike for sale has the optional carbon package and a dealer markup to bring the price to as shown. | ||
| Blake |
Really interesting to see all these new posters questioning the validity or value of the new Erik Buell Racing offerings. Could it be banning season again? |
