| Author | Message | ||
     Dktechguy112 |
I am looking to get an exhaust for my CR. I mainly use the bike for commuting, I have a job this summer that has me commuting 5 days a week 120 miles a day, and I split lanes a lot. I want my bike to be louder so that people can hear, and I want it to sound deeper, the stock exhaust is just to quite. I don't want anything insanely loud. I'm thinking either Jardine or FMF. I have looked up alot of posts on FMF and it seems like alot of people are having issues with FMF's cracking? Did that issue get fixed? From what I read they changed from CF body to TI body and they do not crack anymore? Also, how often do the Jardine and FMF have to be repacked? And how long does it take to repack? Are there any slip on's that do not have to be repacked? What do you guys recommend? | ||
| 1_mike |
I'd imagine you've read most exhaust posts.... The two current main choise's are KEDA and Barker. I went from HMF to the Barker. Don't know why I waited so long to make this switch. Better sound, easier to tune (thAn the HMF). No problems in the (about) 9,000+ miles currently on the Barker exhaust. I also drive my CR 89 miles daily, to work and back. I'd pick from one of these two...! Mike | ||
| Paulp1125cr |
I have had my fmf for 2 years now and have put about 9000 kms on it and I love it, I got the ebr ECM for it and I'm real happy. At first I thought it was a little loud but I guess I'm use to it now. I don't think I'm as serious about my exhaust as some people on here are, but I love the look and the sound. | ||
| Jdugger |
IMHO the FMF is ridiculously loud. I'd be embarrassed and apologetic to ride a street bike with one. It's the kind of loud that makes ordinary citizens dislike bikers. | ||
| Milezero5 |
Actually the fmf is not that loud, d & d is loud. Ive had more compliments on sound than complaints. The only time ive pissed people off was riding right next to them with their window open( they shouldnt have cut me off). Mine is time for a repack, its actually quite easy to do. Im not to concerned with exhaust, if I could afford another one I would pick the ebr race but thats a bit pricey. | ||
| Paulp1125cr |
Really? Don't get me wrong it is loud but I have buddies who's bikes drown me out, I'm no spring chicken and have had my share of loud pipes and my fmf woulldn't even be in the top 5. To each his own I guess. I thought that most of the other pipes people talk about on here are just as loud if not louder, maybe I'm mistaken. | ||
| Ratbuell |
I want my bike to be louder so that people can hear Sorry...but that statement raises my "loud pipes save lives" hackles. Reminds me of my favorite t-shirt - "if loud pipes save lives, imagine what learning to ride that thing could do!" (saw that one at a BMW event). Don't use a loud exhaust as a crutch. Please. I put far more miles on my XB and my 1125 - with stock exhausts - than I do on my tubers lately, and I don't have any more or less close calls on them than I do with the tubers with their Buell race mufflers. Loud exhausts are not an excuse to not pay attention. Loud exhausts do NOT make you more visible or noticable, if the cager moron isn't paying attention or doesn't care, all the noise in the world isn't going to help you. And I have to agree with Jdugger - "it's the kind of loud that makes ordinary citizens dislike bikers". We don't need to give them any more reasons than they already have. | ||
| Jdugger |
The FMF is really loud. My buddy's cousin owns the sport shooting range that's a half-mile down the road and nearly that much into an adjacent property from the racetrack. He indicates I'm easily the loudest bike on track, and it's easy to tell when I'm going down the main straight even over the boom of shotguns shooting clays from almost a mile away. And, that's with me headed towards them, so the exhaust is pointing away! The Erik Buell Racing race exhaust is a titch louder. I'm easily the loudest bike at the track. I mean, it's not even a contest. The only thing that comes close are some of the other large bore twins. Neither the FMF or Erik Buell Racing will make it past tech at sound restricted tracks like Laguna. They are waaaaaay above 100db at full chat. Again, I'd be plainly embarrassed to ride this on the street. And, I agree, there's plenty of old air-cooled lumps making close to as much racket. I don't think those are appropriate for the street, either. I can't imagine firing one of those up in my neighborhood for a ride in the morning. Completely rude, at a minimum. My neighbor has an HD that's so loud when he starts it the windows shake. If he did that late at night or early in the morning, I think there'd be grounds to suggest Texas' castle defense law extends to noise pollution.  | ||
| Northernyankee |
I too have the FMF and it is not as loud as jdugger suggests. Don't get me wrong , it's louder than stock but not that bad. I live in a quiet neighborhood and my neighbors have not once complained. But I don't rev it out in my neighborhood either, 2nd gear 25mph and it's fine. | ||
| Tbowdre |
I have an FMF slip on and regularly split socal traffic in SD. This pipe will def get attention. Cagers will know you are coming. There is an insert that can be installed but I dont think it does much. I cant remember the rec interval for repack (8000mi?) But there is an indicator on the can as well. Easy to do. Kit was like 60$ All in all I like it. I would have a keda if I could afford it | ||
| Evc17 |
Good day brothers and sisthers. In my oppinion, Loud Pipes Saves Lives. Because I see all of the time with my buddy on his R with RT-3 by KEDA. Even those kids with the load stereos with the base pounding, are look around as we approach them. At least they know we are there. Will they still cut us off or something? Do not know, because we are not around them very long!!!  | ||
| Ratbuell |
Loud pipes don't save lives. Paying attention saves lives. Noisy as a race pipe is, it does NOT "make" another person pay attention. It does NOT make another person notice you. Rely on the ONLY thing in your arsenal - YOURSELF. YOU control the fact that you notice the cager with a loud stereo. YOU control whether or not you leave yourself an 'out' if they do something wrong. YOU control whether you pay enough attention to see that they're about to cut you off. Don't rely on THEM for anything. Rely on YOURSELF. Not your muffler. It doesn't care one way or another...and neither does the cager. | ||
| Zac4mac |
I ride with the outlook that drivers/cagers DO see me and are trying to kill me. It's my job to see that hey fail. I have a Drummer because I like it, it's NOT a safety device tho. Tbowdre's FMF sounded very similar to my Drummer last week. Zack | ||
| Guambra2001 |
Dktechguy112, I have the FMF pipe and I love it, it has this deep growl and amazing sound. It is louder than a stock for sure, but it is not obnoxiously loud. I work early in the morning and letting idle with the garage close seems to properly muffle the sound, getting out of the garage low rpm in 2nd gear works fine too. Repacking doesn't seem to difficult and it has an indicator on it, overall great pipe I have a power commander IV on it and it does wonders. | ||
| Bigblock |
The Erik Buell Racing race system is much louder than the FMF slip on pipe. I've been side by side, I know. FMF is loud however, but it should serve your purpose. Loud pipes WILL save your a$$ from a deer at night, sAy what you will about anything else. THEY ARE NO REPLACEMENT FOR PAYING ATTENTION AND GOOD RIDING, NO DOUBT. Louder than stock pipes have on many occasions made me more noticeable to other drivers and animals, I have had both for extended periods of riding.As in years and many thousands of miles on both loud and also very quiet bikes. Rural and city, also commuting. To say that a loud pipe does not make you more noticeable is, imho, simply not correct. Does that mean safer? On that subject I am not as sure. I think so. I don't mean ear drum bleeding whole neighborhood hating it loud, just decently so. Although an FMF on an 1125 is fairly obnoxious. Not harley straight pipe loud, but ear plugs required. | ||
| Reducati |
i too have the fmf pipe, with the db killer insert...and honest to god, not that loud....less loud than my s1 was with race pipe, and less loud than my other s1 with v/h pipe. i have 7500 plus miles, and i likes it | ||
| Bigblock |
The quiet core that came with my fmf made no noticeable sound difference of any significant degree, while incurring a noticeable performance penalty. Perhaps they have modified the design since then, I have had my pipe for a couple years. (Message edited by bigblock on June 26, 2011) | ||
| Manxman500tt |
ive got an hmf i love it sounds like a ducati with a termignoni on it | ||
| Jdugger |
> The Erik Buell Racing race system is much louder than the FMF slip on pipe. I've been side by side, I know. I *own* both, one each on an 1125r. I'll have to agree to disagree. Both are absolutely obnoxiously loud at full chat. Completely inappropriate for the street or urban settings, IMHO. | ||
| Kicka666 |
I have the FMF & love being obnoxiously loud, If people dont like it bad luck. | ||
| Jacob83z28 |
"Both are absolutely obnoxiously loud at full chat." Key word "full chat". I dont think most ride at "full chat" on the street. This is all subjective. Is it loud? Dependes on who u ask. I have strait pipes, with a small baffle, on my M2 and love the sound they put out. I was told by someone that they were obnoxious but thats his opinion. I like the way the FMF sounds, but I'd buy a Keda pipe. | ||
| Ratgin |
Noise directed to the rear of a vehicle will not warn drivers or deer or save your ass from anything. If it did then all emergency vehicles would be pushing the sirens to the rear. From experience you can out drive your siren in an urban environment. Not to mention the unexpected reactions of startled drivers can add to your risks. Lane-splitting can be risky, ride with caution | ||
| Sl33py |
I like the sound of the FMF and it's definitely louder. Obnoxious? I don't think so, unless you are winding it out in traffic which seems unlikely. I liked Al's exhaust shootout since you could hear the different exhausts side by side with similar use (1st gear pass, 2nd gear pass, idle w/ blips, 3-5k hold rev, etc.). FMF and Keda both had the best sound IMO. I hate the loud pipes do/do not save lives argument. I think that everyone has their opinion and isn't likely to change in a forum. Like talking about religion or politics... waste of breath. I know that when i'm driving if i hear a bike coming i look to see where it's at. I'm courteous (rare nowadays) so i try to give them extra space if needed, or a spot to drop in if they are merging. take that for what it's worth - my opinion. | ||
| Thejuicer |
I have an FMF on my 1125R and I love the sound. In my opinion its not obnoxious. Like others have said I push it out of the garage, start it in the driveway, let it warm up, drive nice till im well away from the house. Loud pipes are cool and all, but nothing trumps defensive driving when on a bike. Just a regular guys opinion. | ||
| Mikellyjo |
Love my FMF also. Fresh off the battle field, I just had a cager try and share a lane with me. One blip of the throttle and he was wide eyed and white knuckling his cage back into his lane. I don't subscribe to the loud pipes saves lives theory, but it does let them know your there if need be. | ||
| D_adams |
I love the texting cagers. Every chance I get, I let them know that they need to watch the road and what's around them, not that damn phone. I laugh my a$$ off when they throw the phone up in the air and toss it all the way to the back seat. Yeah, I know it's probably wrong, but I'd really hate to have one of them rear end me because they weren't looking where they're going. | ||
| Velocity |
DKT, go to youtube you can here many posts with FMF pipes then you can go from there. I have an FMF and am happy with it. my 2 cents Scott | ||
| Bigblock |
I have been in the pits and down the strip at Infineon side by side with a E B R full exhaust equipped race bike, and there is simply no comparison to the sound of my FMF bike, it is much louder. An E B R pipe is simply totally unacceptable for street use, an FMF is barely acceptable. Just barely. I agree to disagree Ratgin, do you live and ride in a rural area, have you spent years and thousands of miles with both a loud and a very quiet bike? If you haven't, I would say you are just guessing, and not speaking from actual experience. SI33py is right however, this argument is a waste of breath, carry on  | ||
| Freight_dog |
Objective data from the shootout: Idle, 2000 RPM, 5000 RPM FMF 99.8, 101.5, 108.1 RT-1 99, 101.8, 111.2 Drummer 99.5, 102.5, 111.4 Barker 98.2 99.5 107.9 The FMF is not THAT loud. They are ALL obnoxiously loud, just pick what you like. (Message edited by Freight_dog on June 27, 2011) | ||
| Jdugger |
So, at just under half of the total rev range, and what I'd recommend as just under the typical cruising RPM, the FMF (and the rest of these pipes) make roughly half of the perceived total noise output of a jet engine? I knew it was loud -- I have one on my "B" bike, afterall. But, 110-ish db is *really* loud. For what it's worth, if our motorcycles were workplaces, OSHA would regulate them quite tightly. For example, an employee exposed to the FMF pipe at idle would be restricted to a maximum daily exposure of 2 hours, and at 5000 RPM, roughly 30 minutes would be the maximum daily exposure. Food for thought. These pipes are really loud, and it does reflect on us when we go around public roads with racket makers like this. |
