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Zac4mac
Posted on Friday, March 06, 2009 - 07:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, the belt from Court has been coiled up, under the seat for 2 months.
I've ridden Loretta almost every day, she's at 16,200 right now.
It took five minutes to get to this point.





I only used tools I will have roadside - my Leatherman Crunch at its best -





All this stuff has to come off...





Took about 15 minutes to get the belt off.





20 minutes later, the belt and tensioner were on and the axle screwed most of the way in.





55 minutes after starting the process, Loretta is ready to ride.
With a little practice, 30 minutes downtime is reasonable.
Time to see how far this belt will run now.





Now to clean up and head to High Country for the Daytona 200 Party and watch Buells race!!!

Z
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Carbonbigfoot
Posted on Friday, March 06, 2009 - 07:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That's awesome! Good staging as well!
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Dbird29
Posted on Friday, March 06, 2009 - 09:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nice clock.
How did Grandma know when Wheel of Fotune was on?
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Court
Posted on Friday, March 06, 2009 - 11:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Zack:

While it's fresh in your mind, can you add a "step by step" chronology to this thread?

Thanks for your help,

Court
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Ponti1
Posted on Saturday, March 07, 2009 - 01:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Great news to see the progress here! I had almost forgotten about the whole replacement belt durability thread....Spring must truly be approaching!!!
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Zac4mac
Posted on Saturday, March 07, 2009 - 09:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

While it's still fresh in my old mind... this is all done on the side-stand, BTW.

1)Remove the rear seat and get tools out.
2) Remove both belt guards, inner fender, rider's seat(to get spare belt out), rear sliders and front-pulley-cover.
3)Remove shifter and axle pinch-bolt, loosen axle until the belt gets slack(LEFT HAND threads!!!).
4)Remove the swingarm wedge(Black insert at top of swingarm) so belt can be removed, then remove the belt tensioner/rear-set.
5)Open tensioner(it opens like scissors) and remove from belt, slide belt off pulleys and out the top.<< Note the flat spot on the front pulley - it points to the front to get belt on/off>>
6)Unroll spare belt and mount on pulleys.
7)reverse 5 thru 2.

8)Put everything away and ride into sunset smiling.

Half-hour to an hour on the side of the road; hardest part, as Ccryder(Neil) said, was breaking the axle loose with a small lever arm.
Next hardest is getting the tensioner on.
Might try Tim's(No_rice) idea of mounting tensioner, then "walking" the belt on to the rear pulley by rolling it... didn't feel that brave.

14 miles on the belt so far, if it breaks on the way to work, I'll call the crash-truck.
If it happens on the way home or a fun ride, I'll swap belts there.
I have the belt I fried the back off as a spare now.

Periodically check the muffler mount bolt that goes thru the idler wheel.
Mine backed out and froze the idler, then melted .100" off the back of the belt, it's my spare now.
I was showing Don Casto where the bolt was yesterday and found it loose on a new CR.

One less thing to worry about.

Y'all have a nice day!

Z

(Message edited by zac4mac on March 07, 2009)
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Reepicheep
Posted on Saturday, March 07, 2009 - 10:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cool! Thanks for the update!
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Zac4mac
Posted on Sunday, March 15, 2009 - 10:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bump and an update -

Down with a bug for my last "week-end" so no miles then.
Hooray for daylight saving time... even after getting out of work almost an hour late, I got about 60-70 miles in yesterday before sunset and plummeting temps.

Loretta has 236 miles on the abused belt and all is well.
Fuel light came on at 180 miles, at 192 she took 4.5 gal.

Hopefully I get out close to "on time" today, I'll run up to Wyoming and get some serious miles.

Looks very promising for carrying a spare belt under the seat, and being able to use it.

Zack
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Dalton_gang
Posted on Sunday, March 15, 2009 - 11:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for the procedure. I`m printing it and filing with some others I have been collecting.

I can`t hardly believe that Loretta is almost 17 now. It seems like yesterday that she was a "new born".
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Xbswede
Posted on Sunday, March 15, 2009 - 11:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Great job Zack. Very good info. Now to get a spare belt.
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Boltrider
Posted on Sunday, March 15, 2009 - 01:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Zac, did you know the belt's mileage before you put it on?
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Court
Posted on Sunday, March 15, 2009 - 01:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The belt was brand new for the test thanks to Buell R&D.
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Pariah
Posted on Sunday, March 15, 2009 - 01:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Great effort, thanks Zack!

T.
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Bobup
Posted on Sunday, March 15, 2009 - 02:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

so looks like as an "emergency" backup, a new belt stored under the seat will get you home or to a dealership

cheap insurance and short downtime, much better than calling someone and waiting for their arrival...and still not rideable when they get to you

hopefully Zack has put the "removed" belt under the seat "just in case"

time to oder a belt

(Message edited by bobup on March 15, 2009)
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Zac4mac
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 10:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Actually, I have the perfect belt under the seat now.
It's the one I friction-burned .100" off the back by poor maintenance.
It's a lot more "limber" than the good belts, so it rolls up easier and smaller.

Got out late yesterday but still managed another 140 miles on the belt.
It now has run 371 miles after being rolled up, under the seat for 2 months.

Question for Court or Buell R&D -
Should I send the belt in now for forensic testing, or run it till it snaps?

Zack
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Court
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 11:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>Should I send the belt in now for forensic testing, or run it till it snaps?

Quit typing and ride. I'll tell you when to stop.

: )
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Court
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 11:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Did the first part of this thread get archived?
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Zac4mac
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 05:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes, it got archived.
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/290431/420032.html?1235914927

I am riding... came home for lunch.
Added 45 miles today, windy but warm here.
Thursday-Friday looks good, 1k mark?

Z

(Message edited by zac4mac on March 16, 2009)
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Ccryder
Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2009 - 08:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court/ Z:
This is a stock belt that was folded under the seat. So if I store it in bags then it will be no issue than just changing a belt on the road....

All I have to do is invent a collapsable 4' breaker bar.

Thanks to all.

Time4DOT training
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Bobup
Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2009 - 01:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

if you need a 4' breaker bar....you better pack your mechanic too
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Zac4mac
Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2009 - 03:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A 10" crescent wrench would do the trick.

Belt is holding up well, I am accelerating hard to normal.
I've had her up to 133 once, over 120 more times than I can keep track of.

I'm certainly NOT babying it.
Gotta get back to work, I'm home for lunch again..

Z
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Pizzaboy
Posted on Wednesday, March 18, 2009 - 04:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

zac lets get some wheelies on that belt already!!!
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Zac4mac
Posted on Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 09:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Update - passed 17k today, 17010 in the garage.
Belt's still running fine with 810 miles.

Tires are too cold in winter here, tire just spins.
In the Summer, I can get little wheelies.
At 5000 feet, the air is thin.

Z
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Dalton_gang
Posted on Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 11:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

cold hard tires suck!
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Hooliagn
Posted on Friday, March 27, 2009 - 07:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bump
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Zac4mac
Posted on Friday, March 27, 2009 - 11:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Spring blizzard left 15 inches here.
I go in to work at noon tomorrow, so I'll ride.

I love Colorado!

Z
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Zac4mac
Posted on Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 10:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Update - 22,893 on ODO, so ~6700 miles on the belt, still looking good.

Z
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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 10:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bump out of the archive : )
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Ulywife
Posted on Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 11:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Zac4mac
Posted on Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 04:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As far as Neil's longer wrench for breaking the axle loose, I did this -
Took a cheap 7/8" combo wrench and cut it in half on the bandsaw.
A piece of tubing to connect the pieces and voila -









Fits under the passenger seat with the tools and rags.

Zack
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