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Archive through April 26, 2011Yugi30 04-26-11  01:29 pm
         

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Court
Posted on Tuesday, April 26, 2011 - 03:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Some frames were made in Italy . . all 1125 frames were Made in USA.

There was a famous Buell Engineer who was Made in Mexico . . perhaps that's the confusion.
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Tippster
Posted on Tuesday, April 26, 2011 - 03:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

In my case - the rider.
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Tuesday, April 26, 2011 - 04:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For you guys who want it all "Made in America" are you willing to spend 50% more on your motorcycle or whatever else?

It's a nice thought, but unless you are prepared to pay WAY more for truly 100% American made products, I don't think you have much of an argument.
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Jdugger
Posted on Tuesday, April 26, 2011 - 04:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Are there ANY wheels for sportbikes made in America other than the new Erik Buell Racing ones?

This is a cruiser country.
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, April 26, 2011 - 05:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>Are there ANY wheels for sportbikes made in America other than the new Erik Buell Racing ones?

There are no wheels made in the USA and Harley-Davidson hasn't had an American made wheel since Christ was a Corporal.

It's less a matter of money and more a matter of reality . . . during the sourcing of the new Erik Buell Racing line there were many, many, many USA vendors queried who simply had no interest absent and initial order of 100,000 units.

In a number of cases it wasn't a matter of price . . the materials simply could NOT be sourced in the USA.
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Jdugger
Posted on Tuesday, April 26, 2011 - 05:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My cruiser comment came from knowing about several companies that do custom one-off wheels for the custom chopper market where basically they load a block of billet in a 5-axis and in a couple of days you have a finished wheel.

They are heavy as hell and not competitive at all in the sportbike market, but sure are classy on a $100,000 chopper.
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Tuesday, April 26, 2011 - 09:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Buell's have only been made in the US and Brazil, and the Brazil bikes were never sold here. "

Thanks Froggy, I did not know that
Who makes them in Brazil?
I thought it was just the one factory in East Troy, didnt know they had a production facility in Brazil.
CKD facility?
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, April 26, 2011 - 10:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Brazilians : )
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, April 26, 2011 - 10:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hahahaha . . . I am sitting here wearing a BUELL BRAZIL "Real Men Ride Twins" shirt . . if you haven't seen the youtube Buell videos from Brazil . . you've missed some of the most amazing folks in the world and some of the most gorgeous women.
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Fireboltxb9r
Posted on Tuesday, April 26, 2011 - 10:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


"It's a nice thought, but unless you are prepared to pay WAY more for truly 100% American made products, I don't think you have much of an argument".


With all due respect I beg to differ. I believe it's a common misconception that if you want "American made" you must pay more. Indeed this is often the case but not always. Another consideration is making sure you are comparing "apples to apples". Usually American made products are far superior in quality. There is an old adage which for the most part holds true....."you get what you pay for".

All I'm saying is it pays to shop and with due diligence "Made in America" items, although increasing difficult to find in some cases, can be had for equal or less.
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Imonabuss
Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2011 - 01:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not to build a modern sport motorcycle from, I'll wager. Put together a bill of materials for your sportbike, then write down each supplier and check prices...
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2011 - 08:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>> Usually American made products are far superior in quality.

That "old" adage is becoming more and more dated.

There was a time . . .when I was buying Custom Shop Gibson guitars made in Memphis that they were without equal.

Then Gibson moved some of their operations to Bozeman, MY . . . where my last 12 string was built.

I . . . kind of by accident . . ended up with an Epiphone DR-212 which I keep in Kansas . . . and, at $169.00 (figure about $3,000 for the Gibson) it's a great guitar.

I haven't broken down and bought an Epiphone yet . . . but I am hearing they are indistinguishable at this point.

I am searching for a 1999 Korean Ibanzez jazz box . . . .

I'll let you know how it is.

For fun . . . try writing down . . . just 10% (figure about 150) parts on your motorcycle and list where you THINK you'd buy them. Now try envisioning coordinating all the various folks, commercial terms, order quantities, velocities and see what you get. Be mindful the complexity increases exponentially as you increase the number . . . .you know . . can't put a grip on a handlebar that's sitting 500 miles away.

I've said it since 1995 . . . . "when you get the perfect motorcycle designed you are about 3% of the way toward having a motorcycle company".

Don't believe me . . . read John Britten's story.
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2011 - 08:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Froggy - is it the same plant that HD uses? Is it CKD process where they are almost fully built in WI and then shipped down there for final assembly?
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Blake
Posted on Friday, April 29, 2011 - 11:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Interesting. What do you suppose Court is up to associating his post here with light bulbs? Sneaky fellow.
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Blake
Posted on Friday, April 29, 2011 - 11:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>> Put together a bill of materials for your sportbike, then write down each supplier and check prices...

Too easy.

BOM: One American Sport Bike

Supplier: Erik Buell Racing Dealerships

Prices: Stay tuned! : D
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Court
Posted on Friday, April 29, 2011 - 08:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>>BOM: One American Sport Bike

Math error.
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