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Tougelabs
Posted on Thursday, April 21, 2011 - 08:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not having much luck sourcing a set of sliders for the bike, Anybody have any good news ?
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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, April 21, 2011 - 08:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They come preinstalled on the bike, they cover the radiator too : )
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Cycledoc59
Posted on Thursday, April 21, 2011 - 08:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There's no real mounting point for
fame sliders, which have a nasty habit
of snapping off engine mount bolts on
many of the bikes they are used on...
Erik Buell Racing has CF covers for
the stator and clutch that should be
effective (but are pricey) And there are
several sellers of axle-mount sliders.
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Tougelabs
Posted on Thursday, April 21, 2011 - 09:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have flexiglass fairings and track pretty often so I was just wondering. I did see an 1125r track bike with a chili on it and the number 1 "black,red,white and blue vinyl" It has frame sliders.
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Torquaholic
Posted on Thursday, April 21, 2011 - 09:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tougelabs,

the bike you are referring to is likely the one advertised by Zas Racing for their fairing kit. The sliders are made by a Spanish company called Pelacrash. Look for a few threads covering them on Buelletinboard. The engine mounts are apparently designed to snap off under high stress, presumably to help mitigate the potential tearing open of the fuel tank/frame in the event of a major crash.

The extended length of those sliders leads me to believe they would make quick work of snapping off a engine mount in anything but a low speed lay-down. I'd look toward a pair of Frame pucks from a Uly, IIRC. That, or keep the factory pods in place.

Either way, hope that answers your question.
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Tougelabs
Posted on Thursday, April 21, 2011 - 09:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Torque, You have a valid point...I'll order some frame pucks.

Thanks again !
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Syonyk
Posted on Thursday, April 21, 2011 - 09:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

IMO, based on lowsiding my 1125 and seeing a race one that's been sliding sideways a few times:

Frame sliders are pretty much pointless.

The carbon fiber case savers are worth every penny.

The radiator covers or fairing do a *great* job of sliding.

The rear passenger pegs are also crash protection.

I lowsided on the track with my rear signals/etc removed, and the only significant damage was to the clutch cover. If I had the case savers, there would have been zero significant damage - I've seen a clutch cover saver after a 100mph lowside, and it was only about one layer down - still quite usable.

Basically, if you lowside nicely, the bike will be just fine other than the clutch or stator cover (if you don't have the case savers).

If you highside or the bike starts flipping, case savers don't matter. : )
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Tougelabs
Posted on Thursday, April 21, 2011 - 10:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll try and find pictures of my last wreck at NJMP...I was clipped on turn 4 at over 130 I am exceptional at wrecking...Getting better and better each and every season : ) I ordered the case savers btw if your interested pm me.
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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, April 21, 2011 - 11:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wow 130 at turn 4? I don't even think I hit 130 on the main straight when I was there last weekend!
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Xtreme6669
Posted on Friday, April 22, 2011 - 12:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That's what happens when you try to "hypermile" at a race track...
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Xtreme6669
Posted on Friday, April 22, 2011 - 12:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I put the pelacrach sliders on mine... I like them and hope to never find out of they work or not... I have not heard of ANY reports of them causing any frame damage in a crash.



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Froggy
Posted on Friday, April 22, 2011 - 07:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I got only 27mpg, so I wasn't hypermiling. Turn 4 is a high speed sweeper, but I doubt I was able to hit it at more than 70 or so. I wasn't focusing on my speedometer, and they wouldn't let me run a GPS to record, so I can't be sure of my exact speeds. I was running most of the course in 3rd gear on my CR.
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Finedaddy1
Posted on Friday, April 22, 2011 - 08:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Extreme6669- I done a search for these sliders and came up w/nothing for Buell or in English either. Are yours Buell specific?

These look great to me!
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Bigevildoer
Posted on Friday, April 22, 2011 - 10:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Finedaddy:
There are a bunch of sellers in Europe, but none here.
Do a search through the archives for "Pelacrash" and you'll find the group buy we did a while back.

I did drop my bike at a very low speed (3mph or so) - turning into a parking lot - the front wheel slid out when it went over pile of lawn fertilizer pellets. Didn't break, has some barely visible rash on the bottom of the slider. That's it.
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Tougelabs
Posted on Friday, April 22, 2011 - 10:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

it wasn't me that was going over 100 it was this control rider who got ticked off since he was unable to catch me. Poor choice !
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Xtreme6669
Posted on Friday, April 22, 2011 - 02:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was just messing with ya Froggy...

I picked up the sliders in a group buy last year... I could never find any info I could understand on the web either...
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Sl33py
Posted on Friday, April 22, 2011 - 08:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

xtreme - any tips or better pics on how they attach to the frame?

they look great and i like the idea...
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Xtreme6669
Posted on Friday, April 22, 2011 - 08:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's just a big allen bolt that threads into the existing hole... You remove the stock allens and put the slider and spacer on with the new longer allen bolts... very straight forward and easy.
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Bueller4ever
Posted on Friday, April 22, 2011 - 08:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Those look like they will contact the frame in a crash, which is exactly what you are trying to prevent.
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Dktechguy112
Posted on Saturday, April 23, 2011 - 03:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Those sliders bolt to the engine, it is easier to change a frame then an engine. If you wreck, the torque on the sliders could mess up the engine mount bolts. If you get the Cf case protectors and the pods you will be good.
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Buellrain
Posted on Tuesday, April 26, 2011 - 04:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Finedaddy1, if your still looking for the link for the sliders here it is

http://pelacrash.com/ptarifas.html

You can also email them on this..

PELACRASH <info@pelacrash.com>

Cheers..
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Jrfitzny
Posted on Tuesday, April 26, 2011 - 07:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It looks as though they would fit even with the flexi-glass fairings I just purchased.
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Sl33py
Posted on Tuesday, April 26, 2011 - 08:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I emailed them to get more info. Here's their response:


quote:

Good morning,
Pelacrash price for BUELL is 86 euros, and shipping to Seattle is 85.5 euros.
If you have a cheaper transport you can submit your pick.
The payment must be by bank transfer.
If you are interested we can send the account number.
Regards,
Ana

Pelacrash, scp

C/Josep Romeo i Torelló nº 4

08830 Sant Boi de llobregat (Barcelona)


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Nuts4mc
Posted on Tuesday, April 26, 2011 - 10:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

you might try here: I believe they're in Texas
...you might have to work with them to get the correct sizes:
http://t-rex-racing.com/catalog.php?item=58

I have their stands - good value /fast shipping
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Tougelabs
Posted on Tuesday, April 26, 2011 - 11:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I went with the case protectors I saw them before and then you guys pushed me off the edge.
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Bigevildoer
Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2011 - 08:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It looks as though they would fit even with the flexi-glass fairings I just purchased.

They fit the ZAS fairings IN have... so there's a good chance they'll fit the Flexiglass ones...
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