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Xb12s1125r
Posted on Saturday, March 19, 2011 - 08:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've read patch from the inside, some say plug only if it is temporary, 3100 miles on the tire. What do you think.
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Nillaice
Posted on Saturday, March 19, 2011 - 08:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

it's up to you.
i've plugged many a tire, and would not hesitate to do it again
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Rt_performance
Posted on Saturday, March 19, 2011 - 08:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Plug will get you home.
Plug patch will fix it till it wears out.
(it is a patch with a plug built on it you install from the inside.)
They work and lets face it we ride on two wheels if it goes flat a 60 mph + it won't be pretty.
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Duphuckincati
Posted on Saturday, March 19, 2011 - 08:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you got 3000 miles out of a rear you're most likely due for new soon anyway. Go new. You'll have to pull the wheel and tire anyway. It'll be easier on your mind.
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Xnoahx
Posted on Saturday, March 19, 2011 - 09:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Plug it
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Usanigel
Posted on Saturday, March 19, 2011 - 09:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Duphuckincati has a point, by the time you pull the wheel, pop the tire, fix the tire from the inside and reinstall you will be doing it again in 3,000 miles at best. Just replace it and wait 6,000 miles depending on how you ride.
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Sprintst
Posted on Saturday, March 19, 2011 - 09:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

plug it. Just did one, it was fine.

I wouldn't plug a front, but rears are no big deal imo
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Ratbuell
Posted on Saturday, March 19, 2011 - 09:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Plug it and keep an eye on it. It won't "catastrophically fail", it'll leak down slowly (if it does fail).

It's a rear, not a front. I've had numerous rears go flat, at speed. "Hmm...why won't it turn in?" is about the only "horror" of a rear tire going flat. The handling gets slimy, but it's easy enough to find a shoulder before you lose the bead.





That was midnight, lost the rear at about 85 on the highway. Got most of the way down an offramp before the bead popped off the rim, then it got REAL wobbly. Pulled in a parking lot, got off, laid it on the saddlebag on purpose so I could get to the hole, plugged it, reset the bead since there was no bike-weight on the tire, inflated it, and got a room.

It was late. I was tired and it had been a looong riding weekend (I was on my way home to MD from Buelltoberfest when it happened).
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Sprintst
Posted on Saturday, March 19, 2011 - 10:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Lol. Wow, nice job there. Good work
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Dannybuell
Posted on Saturday, March 19, 2011 - 10:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have plugged several times and had no problems. I tend to get rather high mileage on my tires, in other words I don't race. If you are not pushing the limits you probably won't have any problems plugging.
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Dennis_c
Posted on Saturday, March 19, 2011 - 11:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

+ 1 Dannybuell
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Carbonbigfoot
Posted on Saturday, March 19, 2011 - 11:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You're probably close to changing, plug it (properly) and run it till it's time to change.

R
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Cataract2
Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2011 - 02:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rat, what are those round canisters under the saddle bags?
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Forerunner
Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2011 - 09:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Plug it and keep an eye on it. It won't "catastrophically fail", it'll leak down slowly (if it does fail).


+1 Ratbuell

Plug it.

Nels
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Bueller4ever
Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2011 - 09:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've had a rear tire go flat at 60mph, it was no big deal. I would plug it, but at 3100 miles, you might as well order a new tire. How much tread is left?
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Ratbuell
Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2011 - 10:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The canisters are the "operators tubes" people on the Uly forum talk about. They're from a farm tractor, used to hold owners manuals. My left one holds a first aid kit, matches, flashlight and spare wheel bearings; my right one holds an MSR one-liter fuel bottle (reserve-reserve tank, lol). I had the stickers custom-made and as you can see, they're reflective. ANYthing for visibility : )
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1125rcya
Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2011 - 03:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Plug it!
Have a party!
"Main event"
How much smoke can you make?
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Reepicheep
Posted on Monday, March 21, 2011 - 08:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The operators tubes can also mount up higher nicely, so they don't dangle down like that. I did it with zip ties that I will have to cut to get into the tubes, but more zip ties are in the tubes. Harder to access, but more out of the way, and less likely to be casually messed with on the bike (can barely see them when the bags are still locked in place).

Back on topic, at 3k miles I'd have a hard time making the call... I'd probably pull the rear, put on a new one, then patch the old one from the inside, and leave it hanging on the garage wall for a rainy day, and make sure my address is in the BRAN list so somebody might use the tire.
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Pwillikers
Posted on Monday, March 21, 2011 - 10:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What is the BRAN list?
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Vinb
Posted on Monday, March 21, 2011 - 04:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Plug it and pull some burnouts than replace it that's what I did.
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Oldfartracer
Posted on Monday, March 21, 2011 - 05:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Inside patch/plug. I'd never use an outside plug longer than to get to a shop.
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Sci
Posted on Monday, March 21, 2011 - 06:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I also got one in my tire......a week after i bought it, I didnt have the money to purchase another so I had it plugged/patched (inside) its been over a year now and it even hasnt so much as leaked.




(Message edited by sci on March 21, 2011)
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Forerunner
Posted on Monday, March 21, 2011 - 07:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good grief Sci!

I'm surprised that didn't go through the wheel! lol

Nels
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Sci
Posted on Monday, March 21, 2011 - 08:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I know! Imagine my surprise when the damn thing just kept coming, I felt like a magician....a very angry magician.
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Daniii
Posted on Monday, March 21, 2011 - 10:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mine turned out to be a rivit head. Only 1/4 inch long. Bought a new tire and then pulled it out. Ouch.

Well, I have a spare rear...
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Usmoto
Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2011 - 03:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No question about it, plug it and roll.
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Xb12s1125r
Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2011 - 09:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So many opinions, thanks for all of the response. Plugged it last night but have plans to buy a new tire when the Pirellis go on sale at Cycle Gear on April 1st., I am riding at Motorsport Ranch in Cresson Tx on May 16th. and do not want to risk it.
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Paint_shaker
Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2011 - 12:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

SO long as your not trying to be Valentino Rossi on the street, just plug it. I've plugged street tires before without issue.
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Dennis_c
Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2011 - 12:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

tighten the screw
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