| Author | Message | ||
     Dreso1021 |
Hey guys. Im in iraq right now and will be coming home in a month or so. All year Ive been looking at all the exhausts, eagerly awaiting the shootout Al did, and trying to do as much research as possible. However I seem to be just as, if not mor, undecided as I was when I started. What Im looking for is a little advice from the peanut gallery as to what their experience or opinion is for street use. Im not really looking to install the race ecm either. So with that being said which exhaust tends to be most reliable/compatible with the rest of the bike being stock? Noise isnt a huge concern either seeing as how the louder sound is a welcomed addistion seeing as how drivers here in Savannah, GA are the worst Ive ever experienced in being aware of bikes on the road. I appreciate any input u guys can give. Thanx | ||
| Kds1 |
I can help with the Drummer...it makes good power for the street and will run fine on the stock ecm...you can get an Erik Buell Racing race ecm for the Drummer if you want...if you need any other help on the Drummer please call me...828-381-7546 please buy what you like and what your budget can allow...times are hard... Kevin www.kdfab.com | ||
| Marcodesade |
I like my carbon fiber Jardine RT-5. Still, I gotta say, if I had to do it all over again, I'd probably save up the extra shekels and go with Kevin's Drummer. | ||
| Dreso1021 |
Ya Kevin ive had my eye on that drummer ss for a long time. $1000 is alot to drop though. And im really liking the new core upgrade u guys have. whats the packing like for normal street use on the upgrade? | ||
| Froggy |
Your best bet is the stock exhaust and a race ECM. | ||
| Smit3833 |
Love my RT-4 | ||
| Dreso1021 |
Froggy, what kind of improvements does the stock muffler and race ecm create? | ||
| Dreso1021 |
Smit- are u running the stock ecm? if so are there any flat spots? | ||
| Rpm4x4 |
Im pretty sure Froggy would say that the Erik Buell Racing ecm smooths out low end rpm and runs stronger throughout the powerband. Awesome upgrade BTW. Stock exhaust because nobody builds an aftermarket one that isnt loud as all hell. I have the Keda RT1, which I believe is one of the quietest aftermarket options, but it is still far too loud IMHO. Dont get me wrong, it sounds fantastic but I wish I could just turn down the volume a little. I just cant believe that there isnt an aftermarket option that puts falls somewhere inbetween the stocker and whats available. (Message edited by rpm4x4 on October 22, 2010) | ||
| Dreso1021 |
The more I look into it the more i think i might get the Erik Buell Racing ecm. if im gonna upgrade the bike i wanna do it right. As for the noise i want loud but im not trying to make myself deaf either. the stock muffler is just too quiet. ill take a little too loud than not loud enough | ||
| Bigblock352 |
D&D loudest I have heard and sounds awesome. | ||
| Rpm4x4 |
D&D loudest I have heard and sounds awesome. I bet your neighbors would disagree | ||
| D_adams |
I have 4 different designs available, as well as a modified stock exhaust. All of them add sound, some more than others, with prices ranging from $275 to $899 + shipping, polished is optional. The custom systems are hand made to order, so there is a delay on getting one. If you've read the shootout, you know where they all fall for torque and horsepower. What it doesn't tell you is how deep the tone is for any of them. I doubt you'll find one with a deeper note for under $1000. www.keda-design.com | ||
| Dreso1021 |
D- I was literally just on your site. I really like the RT-1. How often and how difficult is repacking going to be? And any way itcould be packed with the Bristol Core from the get go? (Message edited by dreso1021 on October 22, 2010) | ||
| D_adams |
I use a stainless wool wrap with sport packing around that, which fills out the shell. Just a guess, it will last 10-20k miles. I have about 6k on the RT-4 prototype and it's holding up nicely. Absolutely no changes to it's tone or volume. No power losses either, which means it hasn't blown out yet. Repacking an RT-1 or 2 requires cutting the shell open and then welding it back together. It would probably take an hour or so to repack one and weld it up. I can call for pricing on the Bristol packing, but I know it's probably 2x more expensive than what I currently use, and I don't think it will last a lot longer. | ||
| Dreso1021 |
cool man. i can tell u that ur in the in the running if not in the lead at the moment and have been for months lol. what about installation any hiccups i should know about? or any advice to make install easier/more efficient? | ||
| D_adams |
I need to either do a install writeup or make a video. Nothing about it is difficult, although there are a few things that you can do to make it easy to remove the stock pipe. The biggest help is to loosen the right footpeg bracket. Taking the stock can off is a 10-15 minute job, tops. Installing one of mine usually takes 5 minutes for me, although it could take someone like Froggy several days. :-) | ||
| Dreso1021 |
haha well what do u suggest for tuning? because i dont see an Erik Buell Racing ecm for urs | ||
| D_adams |
They're working on it, but their standard calibration will net you somewhere around 137-138 hp. I would expect more with an optimized tune, possibly 140 at the wheel. Basically, the race ECM smooths out everything, but it shifts the power up earlier in the rpm range. At 4k rpm, it makes maybe 9 ft/lbs more torque and roughly the same for hp. It maintains that power all the way through to redline. | ||
| Juniorkirk |
I'm stuck in Afghanistan right now and gonna be home in about 1 1/2 months or so and i have a Barker's and Erik Buell Racing tuned ecm for it waiting for me back home. | ||
| Dreso1021 |
so it performs just fine with the stock ecm? I just want to make sure because i installed the jardine on my xb9sx and it never ran quite right | ||
| D_adams |
Yes, but it does run lean. Every aftermarket pipe out there runs lean, some just make a lot more power than others. You will notice a larger performance gain with the ECM, in addition to it running much better. (Message edited by d_adams on October 23, 2010) | ||
| Dreso1021 |
any idea when the Erik Buell Racing ecm is gonna be available? and btw uve been incredibly helpful, thank u | ||
| Westmoorenerd |
I love my Barkers, but with the stock ECM you more than likely will have a CEL come up. With a race ECM, it's the shit... | ||
| Easyrider |
Look here for our Torque Hammer for the 1125: http://www.twinmotorcycles.nl/webshop/artikel.asp? guid=YXHFSC&aid=1936&cid=5365&s=&a= No refill needed, and the best low end Torque, and a 200% perfect fuelmap available here made by me (-: : www.fuelsolutions.nl Proven performance here: http://www.twinmotorcycles.nl/artikelen.asp?aid=74 And proven performance on different race tracks to backup too (Message edited by Easyrider on October 23, 2010) | ||
| Kds1 |
Andre, if you want any info you have my cell number....the Drummer makes alot of power and Erik Buell Racing already has the ecm you need....the core wrap from Bristol Core is not like any other...I recently got it because I've been comparing for a while..I'm not gonna sit here and tell you how you're bike will run on the dyno or in a closed room, but I assure you that it will run everyday without problems..if you need any help let me know... Kevin www.kdfab.com (Message edited by kds1 on October 23, 2010) | ||
| Smit3833 |
I am using the Erik Buell Racing ECM with a standard race map with my RT-4. It smooths out the power like everyone has mentioned, takes away a lot of the engine braking, and seems to start better when its hot or cold out. | ||
| Zac4mac |
I'll put in my vote for a Drummer if you can swing the $$.  | ||
| Littlebutquick |
IF YOU WANT SOMETHING NOT TO NOISY REALLY WELL MADE GREAT PERFORMANCE GET THE TORQUE HAMMER http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT_v0UdI3As | ||
| Bettybuell |
I have a Torque Hammer and really like it. Nice mellow sound, louder but not excessive. No packing to blow out. And it looks similar to the stock but better. IMO most of the others don't look like they were designed for this bike, the Drummer comes close, but others are like something from a dirt bike hung on. I thought long and hard when I made my decision and chose the Torque Hammer. And I will sell mine. 600 bucks, you pay shipping. I am building it into a track only bike and will go with the full Erik Buell Racing race exhaust, meaning the headers won't fit my Torque Hammer. |
