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Dreso1021
Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 09:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anyone know of any good advanced riding courses available in the GA, SC, N. FL area? I have a buddy who wants to improve his skill level without having to turn his bike into a track bike to take a course. Those are the only ones i know of.
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Jaimec
Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 10:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.superbikeschool.com/

You just have to tape up your lights and remove (or tape over) your mirrors. That's it. No need to replace coolant with water only, no need to safety wire.
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Mtnharleyguy
Posted on Sunday, October 24, 2010 - 01:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

About a year and a half ago I was a guinea pig student for some MSF instructors getting certified to teach a course called Advanced Rider Course-Sportbike Techniques. It's not a track course, and it's open to any type of bike, but I think it might be what you're looking for. You'll have contact the training program administrators in your area that conduct basic riding courses to see if the ARC-ST class is offered in your area. You might have to travel a little distance to take the course.
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Jng1226
Posted on Sunday, October 24, 2010 - 05:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.edbargyracingschool.com/

Based out of Jennings GP at the FL/GA border on I-75, with a few dates at Talladega, AL.

http://cornerspeed.net/main.html

Based out of VIR in Southern VA, about an hour and half north or Raleigh.

Completion of either course qualifies you for your CCS and/or WERA racing license.
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Jaimec
Posted on Sunday, October 24, 2010 - 07:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Another would be the Lee Parks school. Not taught on a track, but I've heard many good things about it. I haven't taken it (yet). Might next year.

Again, like Superbike School, no need to turn your bike into a "track bike" just to take it.
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Rodrob
Posted on Sunday, October 24, 2010 - 04:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

+1 for the Superbike School. Awesome.
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Sunday, October 24, 2010 - 09:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I really liked and learned a lot with the lee parks total control class. I'd do it again in a second, and just might since they have them less than 5 minutes from my apartment.
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Ratsmc
Posted on Tuesday, October 26, 2010 - 11:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think the Lee Parks course should be mandatory. All the stuff on the track is great but until you really learn how to control your bike, you'll never really get all you can out of it.
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Jaimec
Posted on Tuesday, October 26, 2010 - 02:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rats, don't confuse track COURSES like Superbike School or C.L.A.S.S. with track DAYS.

The only difference between something like Lee Parks and Superbike School is where they're taught.

On a track DAY you can do what ever you want, and as long as you appear to be in control and not a danger to anyone else you're left alone. Try that in one of Keith Code's courses and you'll be yanked from the track before you knew what hit you. You are there to learn how to RIDE, not to see how fast you can go.
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Dreso1021
Posted on Tuesday, October 26, 2010 - 03:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ya we want to take a course (school) to learn more about controling the bike. im not too proud to admit i have plenty to learn.
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Ratsmc
Posted on Tuesday, October 26, 2010 - 03:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jaimec, I'm not really confusing them and I'm not trying to argue that a track course won't teach you good control. My point is that there is a much tighter focus in the Lee Park courses that really develops skills and confidence at the micro level.

I would strongly recommend doing both but for the street rider, the Lee Parks course is applicable in every way since it focuses on how to control the bike over how to ride the bike - at the speeds where we are most in danger.

For the rare person who recognizes that they don't know as much as they should in order to be safe, the Lee Parks course followed by a track school is an invaluable investment. Unfortunately, the vast majority of us aren't willing to admit to ourselves that we aren't the experts we think we are.

(Message edited by Ratsmc on October 26, 2010)
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