| Author | Message | ||
     Stuuk |
Hi All I have a 09 model 1125r Currently waiting for the dealer to get the parts in for the harness recall. 3000 miles so far and no stator issues. Is the harness change actually helping the stator issue? I keep hearing stories about people getting fried stators AFTER they have the recall done. Should I still get the harness done? Thanks Stu | ||
| Jaimec |
Good question. I'm on the original harness with over 13,000 miles. I'm a little leery of having the new harness installed based on purely anecdotal evidence... | ||
| Red93stang |
Don't do it! 100 percent failure rate so far after harness install. | ||
| Kirb |
"Don't do it! 100 percent failure rate so far after harness install" This is 100% not true. | ||
| Ratsmc |
But what is the failure rate without it? Since there isn't a demarcation points (pre-harness/post-harness) can you say for certain that the failure rate is different without it? | ||
| Reducati |
my harness was installed at approx 500miles..i live in an urban envierment, and now have approx 5700 miles. i watch the bat on the indicator varries between 14.4 when first starts up to as low as 12.0 sitting at a long light idling, but as soon as i hit an open area im upper 13 plus. i think the key is to trickle charge the battery 2 x per month. no idiot lights to date. | ||
| Boogiman1981 |
frustrating to have to trickle charge a self charging device that is used on the regular | ||
| Red93stang |
Ok not 100 percent, but everybody I know with a 1125 in my area with the exception of 1 has had a charging system problem after the "fix". | ||
| Blake |
>>> Ok not 100 percent, but everybody I know with a 1125 in my area with the exception of 1 has had a charging system problem after the "fix". Just curious. How many 1125 owners do you know, total, in your area? | ||
| Red93stang |
I brought back 7 of them from Texas, all but one has a problem. I know milleniumx1 has a problem too so that's 8. Pretty good failure rate so far, and none of us have had the harness put on except milleniumx1. His failed 1000 miles after the upgrade. | ||
| Milt |
*** Idle Speculation Alert *** Maybe people bring their bikes in for the harness only after the idiot light goes on - in other words after the stator is already damaged. That would explain the high failure rate after the harness install. | ||
| Red93stang |
It's a program, not a recall. I would rather not take mine in at all, I have had no luck with HD dealers. | ||
| Ratsmc |
We don't even really need to qualify it. Know that some have failed without the harness upgrade and we know that some have failed with it. We know of a lot more that have failed after the upgrade was installed but we also know that nearly all 1125s have had the upgrade installed. So, he could be absolutely right and 100% of the bikes that receive the upgrade will fail but we don't know if any less without the upgrade will not fail. The harness might be related but with just statistical evidence, we can't prove a causal relationship. | ||
| Blake |
Not making sense. Please explain: >>> everybody I know with a 1125 in my area with the exception of 1 has had a charging system problem after the "fix". then >>> none of us have had the harness put on except milleniumx1. Is not the harness part of the fix? | ||
| Froggy |
Funny, I know roughly a dozen 1125R/CR (09) owners in my area, I am the only one that had a stator fail after the harness was put in. Everyone else's bikes are doing fine. | ||
| Red93stang |
Milleniumx1 is the only one with the harness on his bike. All the rest of us do not have the harness. | ||
| Blake |
Is not the harness part of the fix? | ||
| Red93stang |
Bottom line....they fail with or without the harness upgrade. What is the solution? Nobody knows yet and only time will tell. | ||
| Froggy |
Belts break with or without the belt guards. People still die with or without helmets. Something is better than nothing. The harness can prevent the stator from failing, but it won't fix a previously damage stator. | ||
| Blake |
You stated that 100% fail after the fix. Then you stated that 6 of 8 that you know of that do not have the fix implemented have suffered stator failures. One that did have the fix, also suffered a stator failure You seem to be confused. Now you are spouting off that they fail with or without. An old colleague of mine once advised that lacking solid factual information, quiet is best. Good advice. | ||
| Daniii |
I believe that heat damages an unmodified stator. The mod will make it run cooler by cutting off one of the legs, apparently temporarily. I also believe that if the stator has been damaged, the fix will make it worse. | ||
| Blake |
An old colleague of mine once advised that lacking solid factual information, quiet is best. Good advice. | ||
| Red93stang |
Blake, did u just start reading the 1125 board? There has been stator failures before the program and now after the program. Usually that's the reason a "motor company" issues a recall or program is because they have a problem. Sorry I know it's ur board talk but don't talk down or try and discredit someone u don't even know. I just want it resolved just like everybody else! | ||
| Cowboytutt |
So, uh, Blake, your saying that lacking any factual information, its best to be quiet? I'm smiling over my beer here!  Had the harness on for about 3400 miles. It was added before I had any stator problems. No problems so far.  -Tutt | ||
| Lucky_jim |
I've never had a stator failure with the harness, but I have had numerous charging issues. Gotta bring the bike back into the dealer again because it's doing the same thing it was before my voltage regulator was replaced and harness wiring was redone.. drops under 12V at a light and barely charges to 13, and doesn't hold the charge. I'm not sure the issues are related entirely with the stator. Well at least my issues, anyway. | ||
| Jelomadnes |
Don't do it! 100 percent failure rate so far after harness install. B.S. Just shy of 3200 miles after the new harness install. I'm golden. | ||
| Red93stang |
Jelomadnes, awesome! I am sure I will be able to say the same thing when I get mine back from the dealer. | ||
| Court |
Pretty amazing . . a 25% improvement in a matter of minutes. Damn thing should, at that rate, be fixed by morning. >>>> Nobody knows yet That's an inaccurate statement. | ||
| Blake |
Jeff (Red), >>> I just want it resolved just like everybody else! I'm asking why you made one claim then turned around and refuted it. Are you confused, mistaken, what? I'm trying to understand the impetus for you making a very definite but outrageous statement (100% failure rate after fix) that has been immediately proved nonsense. Please explain the outlandish remark and the subsequent contradiction (only one had the fix). I'm simply trying to understand. Which statement is true? Which is false? | ||
| Blake |
Court, Not 25%, 75%! |
