| Author | Message | ||
     Xbniner |
I have a couple questions about the ebr ecm with pump gas, sorry if you've heard these a thousand times but I couldn't find anything using search. It says on the website that the pump gas ECM is for use with a free-flowing air filter and race exhaust, but can I use it with stock parts? Even though I hate the sound of my stock exhaust I don't want any of the super loud pipes (as stated in American Sport Bike's awesome shootout) cause I work 2nd shift and I don't want to be inconsiderate to neighbors. Also if I ever DO get a pipe is it possible to have them change the map for whatever exhaust I end up with? Or do I need to re-buy the corresponding ECM? Thanks guys, and please don't call the repost police! | ||
| Stirz007 |
Contact Erik Buell Racing. They can fix you up with just what you need. | ||
| Stirz007 |
Oh yeah, I think they will reflash the ECM for the new setup when you do that for a very reasonable cost. | ||
| Froggy |
I run it one on my all stock (including solenoid) 08. It runs fantastic. Make sure you mention in the comments its for a stock pipe, I don't know if it makes a difference or not. If you do want them to change the programming on it in the future, you just mail it to them and $25 and you will get whatever your heart desires  | ||
| Duphuckincati |
So here's a question from a guy still most comfortable with Amal and Lucas. (some of you don't have any idea what those are) I'd like to run the stock pipe too, so when you get the race ecm do you just unplug the old and plug in the new and go? And I've not done the newest flash on my CR yet (!) and am assuming that won't matter with the new unit anyway. Right? | ||
| Stirz007 |
Pretty much plug and play. You may have to do a TPS reset (I do) when you swap chip. Other than that, you will need to put some miles on before the chip change will reach full potential - I seem to remember something like 200 miles, so give yourself some break-in time before hitting the track. | ||
| Xb9er |
Duphuckincati, take it from me a mechanical retard that swapping ECM's is super super easy. What I do is disconnect my battery, take off my pod cover, unscrew the bolt on the ECM, unplug both plugs, now plug in the new ECM, screw the screw back on the ECM (dont over tighten), put the pod cover back on, reconnect the battery, press both toggle and mode on your dash at the same time and turn your key on. This puts you into diag mode. Toggle through here and find tps percentages, snap your throttle twice to get up to 100% and turn your key off. Turn your bike back on and go ride. Your current flash has nothing to do with your race ecm so no biggie. Like I said I'm a mechanical retard and I can swap out ECM's and hit the rode in about 7mins. | ||
| Duphuckincati |
Thanks very much, that's a big help and reassuring. And if you ever need any help with some old p.o.s. BSA lemme know! | ||
| Milleniumx1 |
The pump gas (stock) ECM is the best $250 that I've ever spent on a bike. Works like a dream with the stock exhaust and air filter. It's plug and play ... My 7 year old son helped me install mine, he did most of the work while I supervised with a cup of coffee. Mike | ||
| Drawkward |
Stirz007:
I seem to remember that too, but I what I don't remember is if it was true or not? Or the reason why one had to do that? Can anybody chime in? | ||
| Stimbrell |
Open loop learn ? just a guess. | ||
| Stirz007 |
Stim - yup. Same reason you can't trailer the bike to the track at a (significantly) different elevation and expect it to run like it did at home. Takes a little while to readjust in the A/F mixtures, etc. | ||
| Drawkward |
Ok, that sounds legit. I'll make sure to put a bunch of miles on before the next TD. Thanks! | ||
| Stirz007 |
Cool - Me thinks you will enjoy the upgrade immediately. I've seen nothing but positive consensus on BW. One other thing, the EB guys recommend you break it in like you plan to use it. | ||
| Stephenfarris |
I got one for a stock bike with just a K&N and they have that tune ready. I am now sending mine back for the Barker pipe and K&N upload. They said that the stock tune would be very lean for the Barker since it requires a good bit more fuel. $25 for the tune and $10 for S&H for a total of $35 each time they upload a different tune. | ||
| Milleniumx1 |
Mine didn't require any 'learn' time, even though I was expecting it to. I could tell the difference the moment I started it and pulled away. Perhaps it got even stronger and smoother over the next hundred-some miles, but I couldn't tell. It was spot on right out of the box ... Mike | ||
| Pilot172 |
My CR'09 with Erik Buell Racing race ECM works fine with stock exhaust and stock air filter. Don't no why, but my bike did run even better within 200 miles after installing ECM. Dennis | ||
| Mountainstorm |
The ultimate proof is extreme low RPM control and power. I can putt putt putt up a steep gravel hill at 10 MPH with the Race ECM and the engine just chuffs along line a John Deer  Never would even attempt that with the stock ECM, the engine would buck and stagger like a drunken pony below 3K. | ||
| Xbniner |
I already got a response back from Michael at Erik Buell Racing, he says it will be fine and to tell them in the notes that I have a stock exhaust and I want the "best drive" config. Anybody know what that refers to? Also not to derail my own thread, but what did your gas mileage do after upgrading your ecm? Mine is terrible now (25-28) compared to what i've heard people getting, but its double my mustang and more fun to drive so I wont complain | ||
| Froggy |
I got 75mpg on a Race ECM equipped bike Properly tuned it should get better fuel economy than stock. My 1125R now gets just shy of 50mpg in normal riding, vs 45mpg stock. | ||
| Drawkward |
Since I've purchased the bike I've gotten 23-25mpg. People who get better than that bought the bike for the complete wrong reason and don't ride it like they should be IMO of course. Froggy: Your normal riding isn't even applicable to what he's asking. You come into threads like this all the time talking about your MPG numbers but you're really off base. You don't ride this bike like the majority of people would. You turn the damn thing off in traffic...come on. Your data point just isn't applicable. (Message edited by drawkward on August 30, 2010) | ||
| Father_of_an_era |
Well, I don't know about 45-50 MPG but I ride my bike pretty hard and I get about 30 when ridding aggressively and 35 MPG when ridding semi-aggressively. Its pretty hard to imagine getting fewer miles then 30 unless you are on the track hitting it hard and WOT the majority of the time. You must be a wild man! lmao  | ||
| Stephenfarris |
Mine averaged 34 for two tanks with the stock set-up and race ECM. I did not run it hard at that with only 500 miles on the bike. | ||
| Milleniumx1 |
I'm definitely not taking it easy on mine, and I still average 33 or so no matter how many miles of twisties I ride. I'm no animal though ... Just a guy having a damn good time! | ||
| Drawkward |
Father: Ya...little bit. I also do trackdays once or twice a month so that kills the MPGs. I'm not the best data point either, lol. | ||
| Xbniner |
Unlike the good Dr., I'm not a wild man. I live in the city and even when I get on the backroads they are straight. Maybe I'm riding under the power band or something. Also I have no idea what flash I have on mine. The dealer assured me it is the newest flash but I really doubt it. Oh well, that won't matter once I get the race ecm. I'll have to wait till next week to find out though cause I just paid a $421 speeding ticket (56 in a 45...) so the "fun money" column on my ledger is empty right now lol. | ||
| Drawkward |
OUCH!!! 11 over is $421? Holy hell... | ||
| Xbniner |
Yeah that's what I thought. It was just a $75 ticket but with court costs and everything to get court supervision so it doesn't go on my record the total was $421. Guess that county is broke. I did the same thing in high school and I think it was 140. | ||
| Chameleon |
Good to know about the Erik Buell Racing ECM and pump gas... I want to get a Barker pipe and the Erik Buell Racing ECM. Seems like a great combo. A lawyer probably would have cost you less. Always fight tickets! Pre-Paid Legal pays for itself in this regard. You would do well to look into it before your next ticket. Anyway, I get 28 mpg when I'm having a lot of fun. When I'm taking it easy, I get 35 mpg +/- 1 mpg. But yeah, I didn't buy this thing to hypermile. I bought it to taste hyperspeed. | ||
| Duphuckincati |
Xb9er, here's a bit more clarification I received from Buell tech- "Two things need to be done after install of this race ECM to make sure everything works properly: 1) TPS re-set Turn key on and make sure kill switch is on run. Do not start bike. Turn throttle to full open and hold about one second. Release throttle completely so it snaps shut. Repeat full throttle, hold and release two more times. Turn key off for at least two seconds. Then you can turn on and start. 2) IAC averaging re-set Start bike and let it idle for ten minutes. " |
