| Author | Message | ||
     Maul |
The frustrating part of all this is the firesale buyers that have any problems are the ones crying the loudest. They are assuring Buell gets a bad name by running their troll mouths to anyone that will listen. I AM SICK OF IT!!! | ||
| Jules |
^^ I had that exact same conversation with my wife last night.. It really is a shame. I'm on dodgy ground as I bought in the firesale, I genuinely couldn't afford one before.. Although I did have a highly modified X1 in the past. I consider myself a Buell enthusiast and I am willing to accept a few "issues" with what is after all a specialist machine. I had a 916 a few years back, that was significantly less relaible than my Buell - but then again I expected it to be. I expected issues with the 1125R too, as it happens i am pleasently surprised by how minor they are. The positives so far outweigh the negatives that they seem trivial. I guess some people may have been a bit naieve when they bought theirs.. | ||
| Maul |
Jules, well said. | ||
| Tpoppa |
Acknowledging or being frustrated over a mechanical issue does not equal troll. Sorry. | ||
| Westmoorenerd |
I think out of everyone here I've had my bike in the dealer for the longest % of time... But shit happens and I'm prepared for that, granted waiting 3-4 months for a new motor sucked.... | ||
| Metalrabbit |
some of you should lighten up a little. I knew nothing about "fire sale" on the 1125 until 5 months after buying one. Some are just flat scared as I am with a $12,000 investment that has been devalued by 4 Grand over night! "Naive" is not a word that comes to mind when your 200mi away from anybody you know and have to stuff your bike deep into the brush and leave it on account of a wad of wires! just a thought for some of you who say "I'm sick of it". | ||
| Ratgin |
firesale buyers that have any problems are the ones crying the loudest Because they are not hardcore Buell fans. They bought a bike for a decent price but not much less then the Honda dealer would charge for a liter bike. They aren't used to a bike with some teething issues. A Buell enthusiast is just that. Willing to put up with issues to ride a Buell That being said when they post about legit issues they aren't trolls. They are pissed off Buell owners and banning them doesn't make anyone's bike run better, It just might hide a possible solution that HD uses to fix one of their bikes. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
They are pissed off Buell owners and banning them doesn't make anyone's bike run better, But it makes the forum more tolerable. I really don't want to hear from a d-bag who "calls out" Erik Buell on Facebook. What exactly is the point of that? EB made perfume out of HD piss and has NO control or influence over HDs current agenda. | ||
| Ratgin |
Right and ban him from Facebook but he didnt flame EB here. He made a post about issues with his bike that were in the process of being repaired by HD. Id hate to miss out on information which would help us fix issues. Like you said were dealing with HD now for warranty work not Erik Buell Racing. I dont think Eric needs help babysitting his FB page. I like that Anon posts here. If someone flamed him here id support banning. But really banning someone for being a troll on FB? | ||
| Jules |
Some are just flat scared as I am with a $12,000 investment that has been devalued by 4 Grand over night! If you bought a bike as an investment then I'd have to say that was very naive | ||
| Blake |
Idiots annoy me. Please don't be idiotic. We don't ban anyone for anything but their behavior here on BadWeB. Raising a stink and employing exaggeration, bragging about confronting Erik Buell, implying that Erik Buell is incompetent are all red flags for trolls. We have never nor will never confront anyone here for merely expressing concern about and seeking resolution for a problem with their bike. Anyone who implies anything different is not being honest. I've noticed the type. You'll find the same honesty-impared individuals giving every reason but the truth for their solo vehicle motorcycle crashes. It's never their fault for dumping their bike. Lame. Humility and honesty are good. Arrogance and dishonesty suck. Drama queens also suck. Let's all try to elevate the discourse here to well above that which sucks.  | ||
| Dannybuell |
My troll radar isn't as good as Blake's. Immaturity is a by product of youth. Buell needs/needed to succeed in the youth market. How will any brand grow/re-grow if you have no time for the youth? Does that make you the anti-Buell? | ||
| Jules |
Immaturity is a by product of youth Not really... some people never grow up. Some youngsters are very mture. I doubt there's a corolation between age and maturity... | ||
| Black |
+1 Blake and Jules! I think people have very unrealistic expectations out of high performance engines and systems. They want VW Beetle reliability with McLaren performance. It just doesn't work that way. It is not a matter of growing youth. It is about people who have zero engineering acumen having an anonymous temper tantrum at every other Bad Webber's expense. It becomes rather irritating after a few years. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
I doubt there's a corolation between age and maturity... The is ABSOLUTELY a direct relationship between age and maturity. Yes, there are exceptions (to which you refer.)} | ||
| Milt |
What I find irritating is the youth is wasted on the young. | ||
| Fast1075 |
Milt...that is......profound......can I use that? | ||
| Thecowboyblack |
"youth is wasted on the young"...... George Bernard Shaw posted by a youthful 35yr old | ||
| Stirz007 |
Rant Begins: What we have here is symptomatic of an instant gratification society. I want it all, I want it now, and it better be perfect. End of Rant For years, Jag owners knew there was a two or three year 'break-in' period for their new cars, when everything needed to be fixed. That was part of buying a Jag. The 1125's certainly have some issues, but nothing that could really be considered a deal-killer IMO (like crappy suspension, brakes or powerplant). I don't think any of us bought a Buell with the full understanding that it would have the problems that go with a relatively new design - I didn't. Add the loss of real factory support and this makes the situation for warranty work and parts support no fun for most of us. My first four bikes were H-D, therefore I expect to work on my bike - but that's just me. I actually enjoy doing most of the work myself (as long as the fix stays fixed), so the once or maybe twice a year repairs are not a real burden. In return, I become much more familiar with a pretty good bike. Keep the eye on the big picture... | ||
| Dannybuell |
Stirz007 - Nice rant. It takes a few years to sort it out was pretty much my experience with the 96 S1. After 30,000 miles all recalls done the bike's development was as far as the factory was going to go. The aftermarket did the rest just like it does for the all machines. The 1125 bikes will evolve as far as HD has to. HD, Erik Buell Racing, and American Sport Bike can and will lead in keeping the bikes on the road. Having been through the Buell ownership process once before tempers my emotions in untold ways. It also helps having the S1 as a 'back-up'. | ||
| J2blue |
I had to crack up when I went back to the first page of this thread and Ft. Bastard said "This isn't going to end well". No doubt. I'm envisioning a big lever as yet another post goes up "my #$@% buell crap lemon, they litigation snarl hoof hoof..." and the trap door opens. SEE YA! And then a few replies later his comrade chimes in agreement. BOING! SEE YA! If it were my board I'd be tempted to run it like the soup nazi. NO MORE BADWEB FOR YOU! Oh well. I go to pick up my CR tomorrow at the dealer. I'm psyched. Yes, there is a strong chance she may sputter and cough again. After all the whining is gone I'm sure there will be enough BADWEB brain power left to help solve the stator issue, I think it is already having some positive feedback. Just like the good old days before last fall. And, yes, she gave me one hell of a ride before sundown when the stator gave out... and that is what I choose to think about. | ||
| Stirz007 |
Danny - will H-D continue the 1125 after the 2010 model year? If they don't, I can't see they have any incentive to do anything other than replace parts (not improve them) until all the warranties expire in a couple of years. If they do, maybe. J2 - Please don't ban me. I'll try to do better. | ||
| Zac4mac |
Jody - Do NOT leave the Shop without your hat! C ya Z (Message edited by zac4mac on July 30, 2010) | ||
| J2blue |
Don't worry Stirz, it ain't my sandbox. And I can answer that question directed to Danny: no, HD shut Buell and all the Buell bikes down as of the 2010 model year. No more Buells. HD declared just how much they don't won't to support Buell owners when they did that. It sucks, but that is what happened. Our love of the Buell breed lives on, though. | ||
| Blake |
Is Danny suggesting we tolerate juvenile behavior in our community here as a potential marketing tactic for future Buell motorcycles?  That is REALLY dumb. | ||
| Dannybuell |
Are you yelling? Blake strange as it seems, not everyone is as mature as you or I. These are the very people that need your help, even more than others. I say too bad for everyone, the kid lost a chance to learn proper adult behavior and we all lost a chance to help a kid grow up. | ||
| Milt |
I'm picking my CR up in about 15 minutes. It sucks that it broke, sucks that parts are slow to come. But to me, it's well worth the it - I can't get that sh!t eating grin anyplace else. And that Shaw guy really could turn a phrase. | ||
| Blake |
Danny, you couldn't be more wrong and misguided. Stick around and learn more. | ||
| Cowboytutt |
Blake, pardon me for asking but I'm new here. Are you actually a moderator here? -Tutt | ||
| Datsaxman |
Danny, I think you are doing fine. Decent of you to characterize Blake's foul language, name calling, and short temper as signs of maturity. If Danny is sugggesting that we be tolerant of our fellow man in general, and of posters on this board specifically, I agree. Even you, Blake. I think we can all agree with at least this from Blake: we should all work to elevate the general level of discourse. +++ Black, did you ever own a VW? I had four. They were NOT known for their reliability, but for being easy to fix. They needed it often. Not the best analogy I think... +++ to Tutt also. heehee. BTW, I was the guy on the red VFR four weeks ago who joined the group ride up Angeles Crest. |
