| Author | Message | ||
     Tpoppa |
Can I say that the stator is the problem? No rotor problems? Same wire size? Same insulation? Bad design? As I recall, the problem with dead batteries in the 08s was due to a poor design also and an underpowered charging system. Somehow that seems to have fixed itself. How can that be? Do we know what we are talking about? Sorry guys, but until somebody examines a whole bunch of failed charging systems for a root cause, we are just whistling in the dark. We might as well be discussing poetry. Different issue. Dead batteries in 08's were due to a parasitic drain from the IC. That may have been a reason why they went with a higher output stator for 09 (520w vs. 432w IIRC, too lazy to look up at the moment). The parasitic drain has been corrected. | ||
| Dannybuell |
parasitic drain. I like that. that's one of those new school words for 'a short'. | ||
| Xbud |
I thought the drain on the 08 models was due to the FI system keeping itself pressurized after the key was off. A few ECU flashes fixed this IIRC. | ||
| Parrick |
The 3 small holes are in roughly the 12 o-clock position when reassembled. | ||
| Fireboltxb9r |
So......can anyone enlighten me? Does the wiring upgrade completed along with a brand new zero time stator resolve this issue? Why did Buell spend the time and money on just the wiring update if the stator was destined to fail eventually anyway? Do the Buell engineers truly feel this is a "solve all"? Is the consensus here that this will continue to be an ongoing issue even with both changes made? Any real life experiences with both update and new stator? Any subsequent, successful high mileage reports out there? | ||
| Usanigel |
A relay and a few wires are much cheaper than a heavy duty stator, this is a bean counter repair intended to get you past the warranty end. How's that for little faith in the repair! I was always under the impression that a generator or motor out of electrical balance was doomed to over heat and fail... | ||
| Tpoppa |
A relay and a few wires are much cheaper than a heavy duty stator, this is a bean counter repair intended to get you past the warranty end. How's that for little faith in the repair! Unfortunately, I think there is some truth to that. The harness is a few feet of wire, a relay, and 2 fittings. I'd be surprised if it cost HD $4. | ||
| Cringblast |
No faith at all. I'll keep bringing it back until October. C. | ||
| Dannybuell |
We need to keep the faith. Homer007 Posted on Tuesday, June 15, 2010 - 02:32 pm: "Does anybody here think this warrants a class action lawsuit? " Tpoppa Posted on Sunday, June 20, 2010 - 10:25 pm: "If another stator fails my bike will be within the guidelines of the Ohio Lemon Law." The HD attorneys know all six of the law offices that specialize in Product Liability. HD knows those firms dream of scenarios like this. When regional class action lawsuits go national they always bubble up to one of these east coast heavy hitters. Between Lemon laws and the very real threat of a class action lawsuit, what should we be worried about? It seems to me that HD needs to keep OUR faith! HD says the stator is $600.00 when the domestic retail price is less than $200.00 for a new big Aprilia or Ducati stator? Who are they kidding? | ||
| Tpoppa |
I don't want to invoke the Lemon Law. I'd prefer that HD handle this stator issue in a responsible manner that supports the people who spent money on their products. But that's what I'm going to do if HD doesn't have a long term solution when my next stator fails. The harness upgrade was a swing and a miss. Repetitive failures of the same part equal bad scenarios for the factory under Lemon Laws. HD knows this. Lemon Law firms DEFINITELY know this. Hopefully, HD has a redesign in the works and this is a moot point. If not...well that's why Lemon Laws exist. (Message edited by tpoppa on June 23, 2010) | ||
| Kenm123t |
Danny You now understand HD s problem Check out wandells video. He doesnt know how to cut overhead. Problem is they fired the folks that knew how to solve it. Why do you think Flick left Flick must have felt like MC chrystal. does today Feee me from the idiots | ||
| J_copeland |
How many mile's are ppl seeing the failure's at?I'm at 330 and am now getting concerned. | ||
| Fast1075 |
$600.00 HUH? Looks like they are burying the cost of all the warranties in the cost of the new stators. | ||
| Tpoppa |
FYI. Stators are back ordered again until 6/30. | ||
| Bigschwerm |
I got lucky my stator only took 6 days to come in...now just waiting for my appt. on the 30th to get it installed. | ||
| Rkc00 |
Well it looks like my 1125r has a stator problem. Bike died outside of Pittsburg and is in the back of a pickup truck heading to the buell dealer in somerset. Not sure how I will be getting back to ny this week. Will keep you posted. Any stators around??? | ||
| Rkc00 |
By the way. The same description that most others put in there thread is what happened to mine | ||
| Brumbear |
How you fixed Mike I don't know what I can do from hear but I would see if there is a stator guy in Pitts. have it rewound and replaced. I thought they did all the work before you picked it up? | ||
| Rkc00 |
Dave well they had dome the new cluster and the harness upgrade. I am back in town and got the bike to the dealer. They might look at it on Thursday . I will be renting a car to get home. I will have to come back to get it. I will let you know what's up on Friday with it. | ||
| Brumbear |
OK let me know. And let me know when they will have it done Mike get your OLD stator backI will have it rewound and then there will be an xtra floating around for who needs it in an emergancy!!!!! | ||
| Pdawg1970 |
here's some pics i took today:  the burnt stator hanging off my 09 1125R at my HD dealer today. i rode it TWICE since the harness up grade & its now TOAST (approx 4300kms)  the 'NEW' stator they have ready to install. Harley part# Y0442.1AMA i kinda think its an 08 stator & it wont fit!  my stator cover BEFORE  my stator cover AFTER! if the 08 stator wont fit then i guess i am without my beloved 1125R until an 09 stator arrives. i just stepped out to grab the part# out of my car & its raining so i guess i dont really care! (weather person is calling for a week of rain) i love this bike. i have owned just about every sportbike out there & none of them can compare to the 1125R. it truly is in a class of its own. | ||
| Bobbuell1961 |
Off to the shop this morning, 2100 miles all with the harness, the stator is toast. Notice the tissue under her nose  Thank god for the Uly!  | ||
| Rkc00 |
Well the dealer worked on the bike all afternoon. Ran thru all the tests and found nothing wrong. He was on the phone with HD tech a few times today. He said they had no clue what to do with it. He thinks it was the relay and has it changed out to an older version from an flh that is a 40 amp one. Says it it now working. I will be riding it on Friday to see if it fails again. | ||
| Froggy |
That part number is the 08. | ||
| Pdawg1970 |
yup...08 stator & wont fit. they have an 09 on order...should be another week or so. they put the new regulator in & its charging fine...for now. once the correct stator is in it will go back for the install. my dealer has been pretty cool about everything. no complaints from me! | ||
| Dannybuell |
I went to my HD dealer today. I was told my CR was all torn down waiting for parts... I asked if I could have the old stator and got some song and dance about liability issues...No I could not have it. Has anyone gotten one from their dealer? | ||
| Froggy |
The old stators are returned to HD. If they don't return them, the dealer ends up paying for it. | ||
| Pdawg1970 |
got the 1125R back just a few minits ago. they replaced the regulator & battery & put the 09 stator back in to test. its charging fine & maintaining 13.7-14.0 in traffic, in the heat with the fans running. a proper 09 stator has been ordered & it will be replaced when they do my clutch upgrade next week...or so. with the stator cover mod i am hoping to keep the heat off the old stator long enough to keep me running until the new one arrives. once the new stator is in & my clutch has been done i am dumping my oil & running REDLINE 20/50. i am hoping that too will help with the heat. Froggy, i have had the same news from my dealer about the warrantied stators, however, they are supposed to keep them on a shelf for 30-60 days then they 'might' be able to dispose of them. i have my dealer working with me to get one back to me so it can be sent out & re-wound. i am not keeping my hopes up but i am trying to remain optimistic. any news will be passed along here. | ||
| 07xb12ss |
well both my 09's crapped out this week, had the upgraded harness on both (dont one right after the other). i hope they arent down long...... | ||
| Bobbuell1961 |
To those that have seen their smoked stators , i believe that the stamping on them is a date code, Pdawg, yours is 30/08, produced in the 30th week of of 2008. Mine arrived today with a /08 number, good for me with the backorder but the same problem could arise again. Could those awaiting a stator after the backorder is lifted check or ask the tech to check this numbers? Inquiring minds would like to know! Thanks,Bob |
