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Tpoppa
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 02:35 pm: | 
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Out of curiosity, what are these 'deluded concepts' that are used to rate handling?
Saying a sportster corners well, says more about your riding style that the capabilities of the bike. If it meets your performance envelope then good for you. But understand that it's far off the mark for many motorcycle enthusiasts that know the fast way through a corner. |
Ezblast
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 04:04 pm: |
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When I'm 80 I'll look at a Geezer bike, and then it would be a brand known for quality and innovation, that would not be HD, probably Victory, if nothing else shows on the scene. Sport bikes are where its at for me - great handling quick bikes rock! Why would I want a lesser bike aka a cruiser? It is not a matter of putting the bike down as realizing that such a bike like the XR is for very old guys to pretend they are on a real bike - aka a sport bike, though the reality is totally different.
EZ |
Kaotikevo
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 04:35 pm: |
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tpoopa your comments say alot more about your personality thaen your mouth ever will about your riding style. I never said anything about any bike meeting my needs or not. your ability to intuit the meaning of things unsaid completely astounds me. Bottom line is, if you think the 1125 meets your NEEDS,and you're not a sponsored pro, you're either a retard or a self involved braggart with a superiority complex.So because i ride a sportser when i'm not on my 1125R that means you are a more talented rider than me huh? faster in the corners too huh? deluded handling concepts. any bike on the street capable of more than 90mph is overkill for its INTENDED purpose. on the street, lean angle spec's are moot(all bikes will succesfully negotiate a corner at posted speed limits quite comfortably. you getting my drift yet? You sound like any one of the fistfulls of squids on the liter bike forums.nuthin but a h8r. FA-Q |
Tpoppa
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 04:41 pm: |
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Ha. I never said a word about my abilities.
Re-read my comments.
Get over your self.
Rinse.
Repeat. |
T_man
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 04:53 pm: |
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I'm with Mcballpeen hammer on this one. I have a lot of friends that ride bikes and a lot that want to get into riding. If their enquires ever move toward a HD I ALWAYS steer them away - To Victory, Triumph to Kaw-ama-zuk-onda, whatever.. but never ever will those swindlers at HD see a damn penny if I can help it.
That being said; it is a shame about their actual motorcycles, because for what they are designed for, they aren't all that bad. Idiots. |
Froggy
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 04:55 pm: |
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Kaotikevo, I think you misinterpreted Tpoppa's post quite a bit! |
Dmhines
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 08:58 pm: |
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Wow ... this thread did get interesting didn't it ??  |
Datsaxman
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 09:04 pm: |
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Aren't there some grownups on this site?
Boys, take yer pissing contest with you and go somewhere else, hmm? |
Jng1226
| | Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 01:04 am: |
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Hey, maybe the XR-1200 is not that bad after all:
If it's good enough for Jeremy McWilliams (Former MotoGP Racer and Development Rider for the 1125R for those that don't know)...
http://www.warrs.com/harley-davidson/pages/posts/x r1200-british-superbike-series78.php |
Mcballpeen
| | Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 09:53 am: |
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Beware of bikes that have to have their own class at the races. It usually means they are a total dog and have to be handicapped so they can run against other bikes of the same "class". |
Dmhines
| | Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 10:09 am: |
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Didn't 1125's run in the 600cc class??  |
Froggy
| | Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 10:21 am: |
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quote:Didn't 1125's run in the 600cc class??
No, that is a misconception, as it wasn't a displacement based class. |
Jng1226
| | Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 01:04 pm: |
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Racing motorcycles is done for ADVERTISING, pure and simple. Advertising for the motorcycle manufacturers and for the series' sponsors, whether team or corporate.
Not all one-make series are using crap vehicles, such as the Patron Porsche GT3 Challenge or the Triumph ParkinGO European series using Street Triple R's that run along with some WSBK rounds.
While I am no fan of the XR-1200, I am impressed with what Jeremy McWilliams appears to be doing with a race-version in the picture above.
Also, racing success in a particular series doesn't necessarily determine how great a street/production motorcycle is. If you were to watch the AMA Daytona Superbike Series, you would think that a ZX-6R is crap since one isn't seen anywhere near the front. The truth is that Kawasaki and Honda as factories are not supporting any racing efforts in the series. Yet, when you read almost any publication's shootout of the 600 -class, the latest ZX-6R is the runaway winner. Or look at WSBK and the BMW S1000RR. Most reviews say the street bike is a monster dominating the class but the brand-new factory WSBK team only scored 1 podium in the last 1.5 seasons while the much more seasoned Aprilia factory team has multiple wins and is leading the championship with their equally new design.
Lastly, the 1125's ran in last year's AMA DSB Class, along with Aprilia RSV 1000's and Ducati 848's against the Japanese 600s. Only Eslick's 1125 ran consistently up front (out of several in the field, including an identical bike ridden by teammate Michael Barnes), and he didn't dominate at all with Japanese 600's taking the majority of the wins. I'll go further and say that if Martin Cardenas didn't break his hand late in the season and as a result have a few poor results and a DNS, he would have won the title on his GSX-R. This season, Eslick is running up front on a GSX-R, supporting the old adage that it is the Indian, not the arrow.
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