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Xb12s_streetdemon
Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2010 - 08:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i finally finished a few sets of axle sliders for the CR for me and my friends.







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Xtreme6669
Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2010 - 09:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Look good man! Nice work!

lets see some installed pics and what holds them on? did you tap the derlin or put some type of threaded insert in?

(Message edited by xtreme6669 on March 02, 2010)
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Illbuell
Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2010 - 10:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The threaded rod holds them on..
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Blackflash
Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2010 - 10:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just delrin isn't a good idea. Delrin does crack and With those lift areas cut in the sliders will cause serious weakness. I machine sliders and know the brittle point. It looks good but in my experience with delrin that will crack.I'm not bashing I'm just giving you my thoughts with my machining experience. I'd hate to see them fail.
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Xtreme6669
Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2010 - 11:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

LOL thanks Ill, what holds the sliders onto the threaded rod is what I'm asking
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Illbuell
Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2010 - 11:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Threads???? LOL
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Moosestang
Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2010 - 11:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They look to be threaded, so no nuts. I just bought the DHM economy sliders. they aren't fancy like those, but they look super strong.



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1_mike
Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2010 - 12:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not to give anyone a hard time...but I did the same basic thing with these...
I used all-thread as XB12 did.
I used lock nuts and washers to hold everything in place.

http://www.chaparral-racing.com/Chaparral/product_ family.asp?family%5Fid=13745&gift=False&mscssid=67 CE563E9F924473BA2A9BF4B2FA78AD

I've forgotten the brand name and it seems these guys did too...!

Mike
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Arcticcr
Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2010 - 12:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nice job making them.

As for them being threaded, if that's the case, you're going to lose clamp load over time due to the plastic creeping. May be worth changing the joint.
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Blur
Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2010 - 04:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The sliders from chaparral will work but they go in the tapped holes where the stock ones mount. They'll work if you want something bigger than the stockers.
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Xb12s_streetdemon
Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2010 - 10:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

the thread goes 3/4 of the way through. it is very strong. i drilled them to 1/4" and then tapped them to 5/16th. they are threaded 1 1/2", i highly doubt they will strip out. i threaded them far enough to have rod through the lift point. im not too worried. i have a feeling they will seize on the bike before they creep. i put a set on my XB and hand tightened them and i had to use pliers to get them off. as for breaking in a crash. that is the point, they are suppose to get ruined. then i'll just make another set. im not trying to sell them and make a profit, so i dont guarentee anything. but i am confident in them.

(Message edited by xb12s_streetdemon on March 02, 2010)
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Arcticcr
Posted on Wednesday, March 03, 2010 - 12:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's not striping I'm talking about. I'm talking about the plastic creeping. Creep is the tendency for materials to move while stressed, even if the stress is under the yield of the material. With metals, this movement is so small, that it often has no adverse effect. However, this is not the case with plastics. In a bolted joint, if there is clamp load on plastic, over time the joint will loosen. As a result, it is a bad practice to transfer clamp load through plastic. A good example of how to design around plastic creep is the bodywork shoulder bolts on our bikes. The shoulder seating against metals, avoiding clamp load on the plastic itself, takes creed out of the equation. I would go as far as to say that over time, if you don’t re-torque the slides, you’re going to lose them, falling off the bike.
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Xtreme6669
Posted on Wednesday, March 03, 2010 - 10:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I agree with the creep but not the falling off... in my experience when you thread a metal rod into anything plastic it is like a lock nut effect... it will not likely vibrate off and like the op stated it will likely require extra effort to remove it after time.
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Dmhines
Posted on Tuesday, March 09, 2010 - 05:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just got a set of these sliders today from streetdemon. They look great and fit perfectly! Thanks!!
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Xb12s_streetdemon
Posted on Tuesday, March 09, 2010 - 10:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

thanks, im glad you like them.
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