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Pwillikers
| Posted on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 11:22 pm: |
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I've got the suspension on my cr set up exactly per the manual. As it is, it resists turn in and requires constant counter steer to maintain a line while in turn. How have you guys deviated from the manual's suggestion so it is more neutral and holds the line in turns without counter steering? |
Mtch
| Posted on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 12:36 am: |
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i haven't experienced anything like that, but did find the manual setting to be on the stiff side. i reduced the front preload by 1 turn, and the rear preload by 2 notches. also the damping by 1/2 each end turn as it is cold here. the manual suggests reducing damping if temperatures are below 18C/65F. it doesnt get that warm until late may/june (Message edited by Mtch on February 13, 2010) |
Nm5150
| Posted on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 12:44 am: |
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I have noticed this with my '09 1125R also.I will say it has been cold and didn't notice it notice it when newer and if I hang off the bike more it goes away.Also got better when I bought a new rear tire.Suspension set to settings as per manuel for my weight.Sorry if this don't help much. |
Captain_america
| Posted on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 12:57 am: |
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I thought that was normal. I thought you were spossed to steer the opposite way you wanted to go. (my first bike). My bike will not turn no matter how much I lean unless I push the inside bar end away from the turn. |
Tbowdre
| Posted on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 01:06 am: |
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tough to set your sag if you are a lightweight. 1125R seems to need softer springs. with out softer springs you can get there but it takes patience todd |
Duphuckincati
| Posted on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 01:54 am: |
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Check the "Buell vs TZ250" thread. And Captain America, your first bike? |
Azxb9r
| Posted on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 01:56 am: |
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Check your tire pressure(and condition). These bikes are very sensitive to suspension settings and tire pressure variation. As the tires wear and start to square off this gets worse. Also, is this your first Buell? The reason I ask is because this is a trait carried over from the xb line. Once you get used to it, it is not a problem. If you just dont like the way it feels, you can play with the preload and damping(the owners manual has a guide that is pretty accurate) |
Captain_america
| Posted on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 01:58 am: |
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Yup My First Street Bike 1125CR |
Thefleshrocket
| Posted on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 02:27 am: |
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Dear Captain America, I see that your gas can is a bit low. Perhaps you need a bit more to pour onto the fire? <sigh> |
Captain_america
| Posted on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 02:51 am: |
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What like I shouldn't be on here or what? |
Dammitquikgentry
| Posted on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 03:01 am: |
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If ya got an 1125R, this is the perfect place for ya lol. My other bike is an X1 and I'm still gettin used to the R. Very different in all aspects. You'll get used to it captain. |
Captain_america
| Posted on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 03:19 am: |
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Don't get me wrong... I wasn't complaining or anything as I am very used to it. I love my bike and haul cheeks. I just have nothing to compare how the CR handles to. That's all. I thought that the way Pwillikers explained, the handling was supposed to feel the way it does. He is bringing it up as an issue, so I just said that mine feels the same which, again, I am perfectly fine with. It seems as though Thefleshrocket is insulting me.... |
Ratbuell
| Posted on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 08:07 am: |
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Your manual has recommendations and troubleshooting advice for suspension adjustments. The weight chart is a BASELINE. Start there, and adjust per the manual. It's one of the best-written owners' manuals I've ever seen. Read it. |
Skntpig
| Posted on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 08:13 am: |
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Pwil, How much do you weigh? Try more rear preload |
Brumbear
| Posted on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 08:42 am: |
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This might help you . I watched about 10 of these in order to better understand what I was trying to do. They helped me quite I bit http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1I9Chx9o4Y |
Keef
| Posted on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 09:05 am: |
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Captain America naw I don't think he was insulting you,you have to understand that some people,myself included,like to kid around and some people don't sometimes see the humour in things that get said,so before someone gets,I started to say MAD, but that is wrong,dogs go mad,people get angry,sit back and look at what is written and if you think they are insulting you take a minute to think about it, are they insulting me or are they making a joke at my expense and more than likely they are just ,pulling your chain ,jerking your leg or in general just having a little fun..this place is for fun and knowledge so lets all have fun and pass around they stuff we know or want to learn about BUELLs With all that said I have a big block of cheese for any (real) winers LMAO ...Hey I love all you guys like a bad case of clap.. |
Carbonbigfoot
| Posted on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 10:12 am: |
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+1 on the reading everything thru a filter... Very little true malice here. Back on topic... Run the tires up to their max pressure, and go for a GENTLE ride. See if you experience a night and day difference in the turn in... If so, your tires were low. Back down the tire pressures a couple of pounds, and continue to observe. Second, I don't know from what bike you come, and to what you compare the handling, but these bikes like for you to shift your weight. Hang one cheek off the seat before you get to the corner, hang off just a bit, and there is a massive difference. Done right, the bike is neutral through the corner, and hardly needs any input on the bars. FWIW, I run Michelin Pilots, or Conti RoadAttacks, something with a more domed profile than the stock Corsas III's. If you like neutral, stick with the Corsas. If you like a bike to kinda "fall" into the corners, try something with at little more of a peaked profile. Have fun, good luck, and shiny side up! R |
Dannybuell
| Posted on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 11:52 am: |
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Skntpig; good question. big guys like myself need springs and valving. carbonbigfoot; great suggestions on tire pressure. between these two are the answers. dannybuell |
Duphuckincati
| Posted on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 12:03 pm: |
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Hey Captain America, glad you said "first street bike" so I'll presume you have some dirt experience, that's good. Looks like you also work at a major gear-head job, good too. My only thoughts were about a lot of new riders w/ no background were getting the fastest thing they could and not living long. In any event, these Buells are very unique among street bikes in their handling, so just for shits and grins catch a ride on whatever else you can. It will help understand the Buell better. I've been through over 65 other bikes in over 40 years, and these Buells are unique. Enjoy. |
Lastonetherebuys
| Posted on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 12:11 pm: |
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My only thoughts were about a lot of new riders w/ no background were getting the fastest thing they could and not living long whats the difference with our liter plus v-twin sport bike or a gsxr 600, cbr 600, ninja ect 600 I4 sport bikes produce enough power to push them beyond 200 km/h if the person riding it wont respect the power of any bike it will get them into a whole heap of trouble in one hell of a hurry |
Captain_america
| Posted on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 12:15 pm: |
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Yup! that's why i come here to get info share ideas and have fun! @Duphuckincati- I've got a CRF450 so dirt has been all of my experience so far until the 1125. the only other thing I've been on is a gsxr600 and that was a straight line top speed run. |
Duphuckincati
| Posted on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 12:47 pm: |
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Lastone, I, and along with the AMA/DMG series, do not see any difference, and would say that any of the I4's mentioned are not good first bikes for most new riders. I know that's a popular type that a lot of new riders buy, and think they'd be better off all around starting with 250/500 class. Anybody that was riding in the '60's will remember that a 45hp Triumph Bonneville was thought of as a bike you worked your way up to. Humans have evolved since then, but nowhere near as much as motorcycles have! (sorry to get off topic) |
Lastonetherebuys
| Posted on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 12:51 pm: |
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words that i believe 100% Duphuckincati the 1125 or anything of this power is WAY to much for someone with little to no experience (Message edited by lastonetherebuys on February 13, 2010) |
Carbonbigfoot
| Posted on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 03:48 pm: |
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What the Heck do you guys have against natural selection/ evolution? R |
Bcrawf68
| Posted on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 04:26 pm: |
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Moved the clamps up so there is ~ 14mm of tube sticking up. This cured my 08r from acting like a bucking bronco. My 09r was doing the same thing until I moved the clamps up on her too. Now after a little fiddling with preload/rebound/compression, she too is a monster through the turns. |
Bob_saggot
| Posted on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 05:25 pm: |
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Wether you've road a lot of dirt bikes, atvs, normal motorcycles. It's all the same just some common sense, and riding it easy untill you get the hang of it. I'v road rocket 1 other time before buying a CR, Sturgis demo Buell 6 miles. But have drove bike and pretty much everything else. As long as it's not some city kid that hasn't drove shit in his day and goes nuts on a bike. And that's alright if morons do kill themselves for going to fast. It's called natural selection lol. (wow just noticed bigfoot said same thing lol!) Hellz ya! (Message edited by Bob_Saggot on February 13, 2010) (Message edited by Bob_Saggot on February 13, 2010) |
Moosestang
| Posted on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 06:20 pm: |
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If you weigh less than 150lbs like me, then you won't be able to set the sag correctly. I ignored the manual recommendations and just tried to get the front and rear sag the same. I also lowered the front about 3-4mm. I have no preload set on the front and the rear preload set to 4. I get to much rear sag at lower rear preload settings. As it sits now, I have about 30mm-32mm front sag and about 25-28mm rear sag. The rear feels a little stiff, but it's tolerable. I plan to change the front fork springs when the fork oil needs replacing. (Message edited by moosestang on February 13, 2010) |
Mountainstorm
| Posted on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 08:12 pm: |
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I notice difficulty on turn in if my tire pressure is even 2 pounds low. I have to keep my tires at 36 front 38 rear for the bike to track nicely. And as pointed out above once the tires square off it becomes more noticeable. Being a big bastard I had no problem getting the sag set |
Moosestang
| Posted on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 08:20 pm: |
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I guess I need to pump up my tires more. I've been running 32/35. |
Mountainstorm
| Posted on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 08:43 pm: |
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Well if you are used to it and it works for your riding style and the tires aren't wearing badly why change? |
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