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Avc8130
| Posted on Wednesday, January 27, 2010 - 06:46 pm: |
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Letskeepriding
| Posted on Wednesday, January 27, 2010 - 06:56 pm: |
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thanks Avc for posting those for me. Just one way to go on the windshield thing. I had the bracket made and they did it differently than I would have but it's much simpler and is very solid. Mounts to the unused hole in the ign switch. the shield and outer bracket are from a 2003 Kaw Z1000. I thought they followed the lines of the bike pretty well. It's no Vetter Commuter fairing but it's better than nothing. A Laminar lip might be next. |
Froggy
| Posted on Wednesday, January 27, 2010 - 07:09 pm: |
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Putting on the clubman bars will significantly cut down on the wind too. |
Avc8130
| Posted on Wednesday, January 27, 2010 - 07:12 pm: |
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...and significantly add to "oh my back". LOL ac |
Ccryder
| Posted on Wednesday, January 27, 2010 - 08:00 pm: |
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Nice work. How about some part numbers and details. Thx |
Letskeepriding
| Posted on Wednesday, January 27, 2010 - 08:44 pm: |
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I'm out of town working so no part numbers. I just ordered the screen from Givi and the bracket and grommets and screws from the Kawi dealer. 2003 Z1000. I have to say though, I have more tied up in it than I'd like. The screen was $100, the stuff from Kawi was another $100 and the custom bracket was $150. If you make your own bracket you'll do OK. But not a cheap deal IMO. |
Letskeepriding
| Posted on Wednesday, January 27, 2010 - 09:23 pm: |
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PS: that lower mounting tab on the outer Kawi bracket had to be cut off and welded on the bottom. I asked them to use black bolts but they only had chrome. Harley custom shop |
Macchiato
| Posted on Wednesday, January 27, 2010 - 10:12 pm: |
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Sorry, but it blows goats. Not what I have in mind. |
Avc8130
| Posted on Wednesday, January 27, 2010 - 10:16 pm: |
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^^^ Wow, strong opinion! ac |
Tyfysh
| Posted on Wednesday, January 27, 2010 - 10:31 pm: |
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Never mind (Message edited by tyfysh on January 28, 2010) |
Ccryder
| Posted on Wednesday, January 27, 2010 - 10:44 pm: |
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Heck he'll get over it ;+}. Anyway who paid for it? You should have heard the comments on BOTH sides when I added the Givi V35 bags on my 1125r LOL! It was my ride and my $'s. |
Avc8130
| Posted on Thursday, January 28, 2010 - 09:21 am: |
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Tyfysh, I started what project? This isn't my windscreen. I was just helping Letskeepriding out because he couldn't resize the pics and get them posted. So what would I have to clear with him? All I meant by my post was, if you don't like it, you don't have to be a jerk about it. This guy spent a lot of HIS money on HIS bike. Don't post if you have to be negative (not even constructive). ac |
Kidder
| Posted on Thursday, January 28, 2010 - 11:49 am: |
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So Macchiato, what did YOU have in mind? (besides blowing goats) |
Mikellyjo
| Posted on Thursday, January 28, 2010 - 12:07 pm: |
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You gotta love the trolls coming out of the woodwork when somebody proposes something other than status quo! Times sure don't change much..imagine how many trolls would have come out (and did in print) about the underbelly exhaust had it broke on this website. Innovation made America, people thinking out of the box allows us to live in the box with comfort and joy. If you don't like it, fine, just say so. But don't be an ASS about it. You are allowed to not like something. And unfortunately or unfortunately you are allowed to be an ASS also. Some comments are nothing but derogatory and that's bunch of Belt-fed Jackassery that doesn't belong here. AVC8130, (in all jest)shame on you for promoting somebodies attempt at making their bike unique and functional for them...what were you thinking! ps. if nothing else, the concept through to production is clever if nothing else. |
Ccryder
| Posted on Thursday, January 28, 2010 - 12:14 pm: |
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Hmm, in some circles they may find the goat thing more entertaining but......... errr I digress, I've even forwarded this thread to some other Buell riders that wanted more wind protection, I forgot Givi had all those neat windshields. |
Avc8130
| Posted on Thursday, January 28, 2010 - 12:53 pm: |
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I told the creator flat out that his windshield wasn't for me. I think it is a great possible solution for him, but I woul prefer something that didn't require the 3 holes to be drilled. Other than that I think the execution is great. He has a windshield that he can quickly and easily install to provide more wind protection for longer trips. Kudos. ac |
Froggy
| Posted on Thursday, January 28, 2010 - 01:12 pm: |
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The solution I am working on requires 4 holes unfortunately, but is height and angle adjustable. |
Mikellyjo
| Posted on Thursday, January 28, 2010 - 01:35 pm: |
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Adjustable would be a nice option for those on the go changes. I don't see any other way around mounting it with out sacrificing the fly screen short of building a cage. Besides, fly screens can't be all that expensive. If I was a CR driver, I would have two. One stock for the short hops, and one with the added protection for bug deflection. Now if there was only a have to get better protection on the R without double bubble goiter...
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Avc8130
| Posted on Thursday, January 28, 2010 - 02:19 pm: |
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The flyscreen has 2 mounting screws along the top side. I wonder if something could be built off of them. Finding a 3rd point to control rotation may be tough. Laminar lip claims their screens use 3m tape that is removable (once). ac |
Jules
| Posted on Thursday, January 28, 2010 - 03:37 pm: |
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It's not that bad, probably not a route I'd go, but what do I know, I bought an R.. There's some pretty good workmanship in there and as others have said a replacement flyscreen is probably cheap enough if you want to revert back. I just bought a top fairing for the R for $90 delivered off eBay and it's immaculate, that's in case I decide to chop my existing one down when putting the Renthals on.. |
Letskeepriding
| Posted on Thursday, January 28, 2010 - 09:35 pm: |
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I did consider an adjustable set up. I even looked at getting a motorized set up from an FJR or the like, but then reality set in and I realized I was already going to have more money in this than I wanted. Since I was not home to do the fab myself I decided to keep it simple. The problem I ran into was if I mounted the screen high enough to be really effective, it looked really bad. And if I laid in down at the same angle as the fly screen it did absolutely nothing. So I had to compromise. Plus, I don't have a wind tunnel and short of duct taping it to the front of the bike and hoping it didn't come off and hit me in the helmet, I just had to guess at the angle. I can however use longer bolts and spacers in the upper holes to stand it up for better protection if I take a long trip. The other consideration was the size of the screen. Anything larger looks even worse and even this one is only marginally better than nothing. That's why I may try a Laminar lip on top of this for longer trips, although I'm sure I won't like how it looks. In spite of Macchiato's comments, I was concerned how it would look and did have second thought's about it. I only have one bike right now and when I leave the house I might be back in 3 hours or 3 days, so I need it to do anything I ask. Macchiato, here's hoping that with age comes a modicum of humility and a sense of where and who you are in the grand scheme of life. No need to comment, I don't expect you to understand. |
Brumbear
| Posted on Thursday, January 28, 2010 - 09:39 pm: |
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note my solution on the bottom of this thread http://www.phpbbserver.com/njbuellowners/viewtopic .php?t=277&mforum=njbuellowners |
Macchiato
| Posted on Friday, January 29, 2010 - 03:06 am: |
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Honesty or tact? Sometimes you can't have both. This is one of those instances. I feel I held back and used discretion in my assessment, but I'll elaborate. This design is not acceptable by my standards. A step backwards in aesthetics and design. The fly screens ability to deflect air is not that high of a priority to sacrifice these ideals. What I see here is a cop out. My ideas makes a compromise between form and function, heavy on the form in this case since it’s mostly cosmetic to start with. When I get some time, I'll start to sketch some ideas. |
Jules
| Posted on Friday, January 29, 2010 - 05:52 am: |
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Honesty or tact? Sometimes you can't have both. Yes you can, it's relatively easy and just requires someone to be more considerate about the impact of their observations.. "Does my arse look big in these jeans?" Could be met with numerous responses ranging from: "Yes, you fat b*tch" Through to: "Of course not Honey, you look amazing" The honest/tactful answer may well be: "I don't think those jeans actually flatter you Honey, I much prefer you in a skirt - but what do I know, I'm just a man!" |
Therealassmikeg
| Posted on Friday, January 29, 2010 - 06:28 am: |
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Nice job LKR! As a critic of your own work does it meet your expectations functionally? |
Macchiato
| Posted on Friday, January 29, 2010 - 08:01 am: |
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Jules, this isn't about "feelings" and I'm not talking to my wife, I'm talking to other Buell enthusiast. Stop breaking my balls about, it won't change the fact I think its ugly. No one should take personal offense, this isn't a personal subject. (Message edited by macchiato on January 29, 2010) |
2009cr
| Posted on Friday, January 29, 2010 - 02:47 pm: |
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Macchiato, has a right to voice how he feels. We are all Buell enthusiasts and hopefully can take a little comment like this for what it is. While I would not have said it quite like he did, when I first read it I was not offended in any way. Heck, you should hear how we talk to each other on a ride. While this shield is not for me, the detail and craftsmanship is first rate. Nicely done, and thanks for posting it. |
Gas
| Posted on Friday, January 29, 2010 - 04:13 pm: |
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Personally the design thought and execution look pretty commendable. Some of us who don't do design or fabrication apparently don't understand that the process IS very personal. Let's see some of YOUR stuff Macchiato. Do you do any design yourself? Show it to us. If I like it I will certainly say so. If it blows we will tell you. Nothing personal. |
Avc8130
| Posted on Friday, January 29, 2010 - 04:20 pm: |
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Correction for Gas: If it blows *GOATS* we will tell you. Nothing personal. |
Letskeepriding
| Posted on Friday, January 29, 2010 - 06:01 pm: |
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Therealassmikeg: for the work and money spent, its marginal. Better than nothing but not what I'd hoped for. I would like more protection but wasn't willing to bolt anything bigger on. macchiato: the fly screens ability to deflect air is not a high priority ?? That's what this whole exercise is about dude. Why would you want it higher if not to deflect air ? maybe To give you a place to tuck the picture of your goat. It was as much about function as form for me. I wouldn't say I hit the mark on either one, but I took the shot and can live with the results till something better comes along. At some point I'll get the 1200 Multistrada I'd like to have and take all that stuff off my CR and ride it like it was built. A fun hooligan bike that sparks debate wherever you go, especially here ! |
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