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Littlebutquick
Posted on Monday, November 30, 2009 - 05:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

fitted heat matting to inside of frame and air box also did fuel lines should keep fuel and air in air box temp down .going to wrap headers next





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Forerunner
Posted on Monday, November 30, 2009 - 06:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Whew. You have no idea what the subject line sounded like...
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Marcodesade
Posted on Monday, November 30, 2009 - 08:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for the pix, Little. Sorry, but I don't see the point you're making in the last one. Can you comment a little please?

I'm asking because I just ordered the heatshield from American Sport Bike, and I'm about to install it. I'm doing mine for the sake of MY comfort, not the bike's, but any tips you can offer are appreciated.
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T_man
Posted on Monday, November 30, 2009 - 08:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cold air = dense air = more power. Capeche?
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Sparky
Posted on Monday, November 30, 2009 - 10:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think Little's efforts are aimed at keeping heat from transferring to the fuel in the frame/tank and fuel lines.

In the last pic, I'm guessing that the silver areas are heat insulating products applied to plastic air box parts.

There's a lot of science involved in Thermal Control engineering from aerospace applications that is spun-off to the civilian realm. One only need visit their local hot rod speed shop to see what's available commercially in heat resistant coatings and thermal blankets (header wraps, insulating mats, etc.).

I'm tapped into the kit car hobby field and, believe me, there's a big business in heat-proofing fiberglass kit car cockpits for those with fire-breathing V8's.
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Xoptimizedrsx
Posted on Monday, November 30, 2009 - 10:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

On the XB we/I covered the whole inner frame and underside of the airbox lid. we also had 198 deg temps on the air lid before and 125 deg after so it does help on the air temp. I used heavy thermal tape. the stuff from OEM from freight liner trucks. and E-One firetrucks.
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Marcodesade
Posted on Tuesday, December 01, 2009 - 12:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks, Sparky.

It was the fact that I'm looking at an insulated piece that escaped me, not that I don't understand why he's insulating. Capeche indeed. Jeez.
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Pwillikers
Posted on Tuesday, December 01, 2009 - 12:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

From where did you obtain the shielding material? Is it the best available? What mfg. what product? And, I've never seen capeche in print before! So many things to learn. What a site?!
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T_man
Posted on Tuesday, December 01, 2009 - 08:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Didn't mean any sarcasm there fellas - I just didn't have time to make an elaborate post.
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Aeholton
Posted on Tuesday, December 01, 2009 - 08:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Littlebutquick - Did you line the inside of the frame without rotating the motor?
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Marcodesade
Posted on Tuesday, December 01, 2009 - 10:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

PW:

I don't know what Little is using (yet) but American Sport Bike sells a package (24x36 inches) for about $60. For nearly the same price, Buell sells a pre-cut set for 08 models (09's have the frame lined at the factory), but from what I understand coverage is a little skimpy. And the Buell kit is designed only to protect the frame, not to cool intake air and/or fuel.

Sorry, T --- didn't mean to get snippy.
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Plumpton
Posted on Tuesday, December 01, 2009 - 10:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Apologies, stupid question now...

I have an 08 R. Can I purchase said heat shield from American Sport Bike and install it on my R? I have had the boiling fuel issue a number of times even though the UK weather is cooler...

Is this something I can fit easily or is it an engine out job
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Littlebutquick
Posted on Tuesday, December 01, 2009 - 04:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

THE REASON for the heat barrier is to try to reduce the heat build up in the fuel and air box .as you all know you have to get the motor up to temp to rev it so before a trip down the strip you have your motor up to temp then your burn out buy this time warm fuel and air = loss of horses .any reduction in heat can only be good less heat = beat more rice burners .the stuff i used was aluminized heat barrier sticky back from cool it thermotec and cool tape from DEI both were top stuff and stuck like sh*t to a blanket . the fuel line stuff was also made buy one of these companies and were all from that country that has no 2010 cr the stuff was alot of £ but could work out to be cheep horse power and iam shore you would get it cheaper out there .i managed to line almost all inside of tank with motor in but have no skin left on my hands
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Marcodesade
Posted on Tuesday, December 01, 2009 - 04:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah, Al at American Sport Bike says you can install it with the engine in, but it's a PITA. I personally am about 500 miles from my 12K service, and am going to have it done at that time.
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, December 01, 2009 - 04:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Warm fuel and air intakes improve fuel economy : )
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Redscuell
Posted on Tuesday, December 01, 2009 - 07:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Whew. You have no idea what the subject line sounded like..." So you've seen Megan Fox and wondered, too, eh?
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Bott
Posted on Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 07:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

littlebutQuick : Ya lookin for 8 second runs now?
for those who don't know this, Littlebutquick is most likely the WORLDS fastest stock wheelbase 1125-period. 9 second runs on this bike is INCREDIBLE work!
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