| Author | Message | ||
     Old_mil |
Aprilia? KTM in their superbike? Or will the end of the 1125R/CR run mean the end of the Helicon at Rotax? | ||
| Dmhines |
I know the Can Am Spyder uses a Rotax V-twin water cooled engine. | ||
| Marcodesade |
That one is a 900 cc model, if what the salesman told me was accurate. | ||
| Froggy |
Buell is the only one using Helicon. Other rotax twins like in various Aprilia and Can Am models are different motors. | ||
| Court |
>>>Anyone Else Use the Helicon Motor? No. Buell owns the tooling. It is TECHNICALLY (and you folks can argue all day, I have a yard that needs raked) a "Buell" motor not a Rotax as nearly every part in it was designed by the Buell (yep, folks from WI who lived in Austria while working on it) and Rotax team. It's a unique motor with many elements from Erik's original 1986 sketch of it. | ||
| Fmaxwell |
For the curious, here's what the Can Am Spyder motor looks like:  It's a 60 degree, 990cc motor while the 1125 Buell is a 72 degree motor. Rotax learned that the 60 degree angle was too tight to get optimum intake flow to the heads, hence the 72 degree angle on the Helicon. | ||
| Old_mil |
I guess my question is based on speculation as to what sort of support the 1125R/CR may have when it comes to engine maintenance/parts/support being quite a bit further from the HD parts catalog than anything with the Buell v-twin.. | ||
| Mndwgz |
Rotax has it listed on their site, so I would suspect they would continue supplying parts. http://www.rotax.com/en/Engine/2004/Motorcycle/Eng ine.Models.htm  | ||
| Fmaxwell |
I doubt that Rotax has the legal right to sell parts for the Helicon motor to anyone other than Harley Davidson. | ||
| Old_mil |
...it would be good to know this, there's really no skin off Harley's back to let Rotax continue to sell parts for the engine as there's really nothing in the Harley lineup that would compete for replacement bike dollars from this crowd. | ||
| Fmaxwell |
Harley would much rather get you into their dealership to give them $500 for a new head than to have you order it through a Rotax dealer for $350. Harley is also hoping that some percentage of Buell riders will become Harley cruising or touring riders. That was a part of their flawed plan with Buell in the first place. | ||
| Cafefun |
They cn't hardly think they will get a big percentage of sportbike riders to switch to a harley | ||
| Fmaxwell |
At this point, if two of us did, HD would probably have a party given their financial shape. I also think that you underestimate the effects of aging. There are probably a lot of old Harley riders who started out on sport bikes. | ||
| Froggy |
What sucks is a few weeks before the "d-day", my 23 year old cousin traded his 08 1125R for a Fat Bob. | ||
| R2s |
There are a lot of other brands out there that make touring bikes better than Harley does for when I get old. | ||
| Vicfirebolt |
I was told that production was stopped too intentionally allow parts too exist for the next 10 years. | ||
| Court |
>>>I was told that production was stopped too intentionally allow parts too exist for the next 10 years. You were misinformed. |
