| Author | Message | ||
     Djz |
I own a 2006 xb12x an am happy with it .I want a new bike some faster i ride with mostly gxr 1000 sport bikes.I do a good job keeping up with them on the uly but i want to put a trunk and bags on it and make it a day use bike to go to work . The streetfighter is really high priced but i like much ...and it is really fast .i will use just for weekend playing and zooming around the city .Can any of you give me some advice.I hear there are some real deals on the 1125 now Thanks much.. | ||
| Brent1125russ |
Check these three things first: 1. Does it fit your personal P.O.U.? (philosophy of use) 2. Do you enjoy the bike? (Is it fun to ride, does it make you smile being on it?) 3. Can you afford it? There are other factors, but those are the key decision factors I use to buy everything. I have rode a couple Ducatis...they are awesome bikes; but bang for buck IMHO the 1125r is tough to beat when you compare the green you shell out to the huge ass grin it puts on your face. It literally is the funnest bike I have ever rode, and I have ridden quite a few. GOOD LUCK! | ||
| Jpowell490 |
You won't find a much faster bike than the 1125. I don't know a lot about the street fighter, but if you like that look and you like Buell, buy the 1125CR. Really up to you, but I would go for the Buell if it were me. Now had you said you wanted a 1098 Bayliss? hehe. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Read this article....if you are really tooling around on the street, the Ducati got low marks for it. Like everything they make, it's more at home on the track. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/8/4506/Motorcycle-Ar ticle/2009-Streetfighter-Comparo-III.aspx | ||
| Jdugger |
People can cite hundreds of reasons why not to by the Ducati... but nothing else looks like that, makes that noise, or rides like that. As others have said, I think the CR is a great value and comparable bike, and it would be my choice due to "bang for the buck" reasoning. But man, no one will blame you for laying out for the Ducati if you have the cash to do it. Those are great bikes. Some day I will own one. | ||
| Avc8130 |
I see you said weekend rider...figure out the miles you want to ride. The Ducati requires VERY involved valve adjustments every 7500 miles. If you pay a dealer this is regularly ~$1k. If you do it yourself you will need to buy some special tools. The Buell requires similar valve adjustments, but they are every 12.4k miles. They cost about $800 at the dealer. If you do it yourself there are no special tools. The Ducati is sweet, but it is an expensive bike to own. If you have it, and it is worth it to you then awesome. It wasn't worth it to me at this point in my life. ac | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
 Nuff Said! Buy the CR. In fact, buy the CR from me!  | ||
| Oldog |
Buy the Cr from Ft you will be glad you did =) | ||
| Jpowell490 |
Stop running from me Oldog, lol. How is your 1125 doing? | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Thanks fatty, I forgot the link! Oh, and my first thought was that the CR might be the bike for him too. (Message edited by fresnobuell on September 09, 2009) | ||
| Djz |
thank you all i enjoyed to article on the three bikes..I am like the frist test rider i love the look and sound of the ducati but i also like my buell xb12x much it was a real love an hate relation in the start. | ||
| Chadhargis |
I have a Ulysses and a CR. I put the Ulysses pegs (1" lower), the comfort seat (about an inch taller), and the high bars on the CR and it's 80-85% as comfortable as the Ulysses. There is NO comparison. The CR is head and shoulders better than the Ulysses for a high speed canyon carving. The Uly is no slouch, mind you, but the 1125 motor is like the hand of God pushing you down the road. Oh yeah....and Fatty B hooked me up with a deal.  (Message edited by chadhargis on September 09, 2009) | ||
| Doctorneon |
I own many ducati's, I purchased the 1125r (white is the fastest) over the streetfighter for several reasons, it has the rotax engine,weight and handling. One of the things I noticed is the streetfighter's seat cants you forward, this would be good for track time, but riding around town or on a trip, that would get old quick. I know I know. There are other reasons to by this bike or that bike you need to check them all out make notes and then come to an conclusion that works for you. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
sound of the ducati I am really hoping that the FMF pipe gets the 1125 closer the that Ducati bark. It is a sexy exhaust note for sure. | ||
| Dirty_john |
get the 1125R, you will never regret it - I have owned Ducatis in the past and have never once regretted buying either the Firebolt or the 1125R, the Ductais are great bikes but have their weaknesses, not saying that the 1125R history has been perfect since the bike was launched a couple of years ago but the problems are more or less sorted, keeping an eye on the clutch though for any signs of a slave cyl leak. (Message edited by dirty_john on September 10, 2009) | ||
| Pizzaboy |
I SAY BUY THE DUCATI!! THE 1125'S ARE JUNK!! exactly what kind of response do you expect a buell 1125 enthusiasts forum to give you?? | ||
| Palmer |
I'm Italian, and I should say buy a Ducati. Construction quality is long way better than a 1125. Very high quality and design. Once you are on it, the feeling is superior, like a vip class suite in a 5 stars hotel. But! It's not cheap, and the exotic italian beauty will not help you in having fun on a twisty road. Maybe this will help your mind while posing in front of a club drinking a mojito and watching the people admiring your duc. Ducati's are exclusive bikes because they are fast, italian and expensive. Buell are exclusive because they are Buell. You feel yourself at home on a Buell, not in a luxury hotel. And if you have a Buell, you simply don't care about all the shit which is more then riding at your best while having fun. ps: with the dollar$ you spare buying a 1125, you can actually buy a second motorcycle, or build an unique 1125. Ps2: In italy the Streetfighter s cost 23.300 dollars (16.000 euro)--- a 1125 cr 12.000 euro.. (Message edited by Palmer on September 10, 2009) | ||
| Dirty_john |
I could easily have afforded the 1098R but after test riding one, also test riding the Jap, German and British bikes I settled on the 1125R for a whole host of reasons, who wants rear wheel chain drive when a belt is available and having spent quite a few years adjusting desmo valve gear and faffing around with cam belts who needs this when you could be riding the bike instead. Get a life, get a Buell (Message edited by dirty_john on September 10, 2009) | ||
| Mainstreamer |
Buy the one that puts the biggest smile on your face...... that's what it's all about. Food for thought: - Ducati will be around for a long time... Buell? - Residual value... Ducati + - My experience with the local Ducati and Buell dealers... Ducati + - Initial cost... Buell + - Belt drive... Buell + An interesting read: http://dalefranks.com/cycles/?p=995 As always... YMMV. Regards, Paul (Message edited by mainstreamer on September 10, 2009) | ||
| Jpowell490 |
Mainstreamer, I can't say I disagree with you on any of your points, I think they are valid ones for sure. With that being said, I have posted many times on here that I have owned almost every make of bike you can think of at some point. The Buell has their share of problems for sure, but so do the Ducati's. I still remain adamant about the 1125r being the best bike I have ever been on. The mannerisms of the bike are second to none, the power is nothing short of breath taking, the stability at speed is exceptional. Do I think they still have some more bugs to work out? Yes, I still don't think they have the ECM map just right yet, but it is pretty close. I just traded that 08 Night Train for my Buell and I can honestly say I don't regret it a bit and that Night Train was like brand new. The Buell is a different beast for sure, but once you get used to what it likes it is fantastic. If the Ducati is what you really want, like everyone else said, go for it. I have watched a few youtube vid's on the Ducati Streetfighter and I can tell you right now, it doesn't handle like the Buell by any stretch and the power doesn't seem to come on as quickly and smoothly as the Buell. The Buell can be tame as a kitten all over the place if you commute, but quickly becomes a saber tooth tiger when you crank the throttle and that is no exaggeration. On the Dale Franks posts, I don't know him, but he used to post all the time on the HD forums. He had a Sportster that he tried to outfit like a touring bike and it didn't work out for him. It looked like one of these donkey's you see in a third world country that all you see is the small little donkey with about 2 tons of shit on top of it. So, he traded it in on a Yamaha and thought it was the best thing since sliced bread. A guy at the Harley dealership told me when I was buying my sportster new (I traded it in for the Night Train after a month, he was right.) He said Jason, you don't put a 300 pound man on a 400 pound bike, lol. He was right, the sportster isn't for a guy that has any size to him. I am 240 and the 1125r does more than fine. (Message edited by jpowell490 on September 10, 2009) | ||
| Georgehitch17 |
Why dont you test drive them? I dont know about Ducati Dealers but most buell dealers will let you test it. After reading the article i would go with the CR just because they couldn't stop talking about how much fun the bike was and isn't fun what its all about? | ||
| Carbonbigfoot |
Interesting that your choice is between the R and the Streetfighter. That is a little bit of apples to tangelos. If you are looking at the naked upright, then there is a lot of good to say about the CR. All of the above are great posts, and I should just say ditto, +1, yep, well said, and right on. Find the one that makes you shiver. Hairs stand up on your arms. Get that one.  R | ||
| Pariah |
Buy American. This is your country, and it is the only honorable choice. Hell, I'm Canadian, and I still felt the need to buy Buell, if only to show some respect for this country, which has given me so much.   (and please ignore the fact that I own a Suzuki!  ) (Message edited by pariah on September 10, 2009) | ||
| Tbenson |
2010 BMW S1000RR looks inviting! Even with the troubles I am having, I would probably choose the Buell over the Ducati? I really cannot offer a sound reason for the choice, other than the cost of owning a Ducati versus a Buell. I agree with Carbon though, if you are looking at the Streetfighter, why the interest in the R instead of the CR? | ||
| Macbuell |
Why did Motorcycle USA make that comparison and not include the Truimph Speed Triple? Just because it's not a v-twin. Sometimes I really do not understand how they decide what bikes to include and what bikes not to include. The Speed Triple is one of the best street fighters out there and compares to the Aprilia and the Buell in power. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
I think honestly some bikes on occasion are excluded simply because a test bike isn't available. I know the Buell was excluded from a similar shootout because the whole test fleet was somewhere else and the magazine couldn't get ahold of a CR. | ||
| Chadhargis |
That, and the Speed Triple hasn't been changed in a few years. The CR was "new" for 2009 and the Streetfighter is new as well. I get several moto mags, and the reviews are so subjective that they really don't do much good to me. I like reading about the bikes, but I tend to form my own opinion about a bike. I had read about how the 1125 was "underpowered" and is racing with 600s, blah, blah, blah....I have a Gixxer 600, and I can tell you...it's WEAK compared to the 1125. I don't know how anyone short of an expert racer could possibly say the 1125 is underpowered. I hit the rev limiter on my XB frequently (it's not really a limiter, it just tells you when to shift...LOL!), but I've never hit the limiter on the 1125. It pulls so hard I chicken out and shift before I'm pushing well into the triple digits or standing up on the rear wheel. Having the Ducati, with another 20hp or so is a scary proposition. Of course, the article did say the Duc was geared taller, so that might take some of the feel of the extra power away. I've ridden a race replica liter bike once (a 954RR, which is no where near as powerful as the current liter bikes) and it was just scary to ride. Like having a gun with a hair trigger. One wrong move, and BAM you're on your butt. I love big power, but at some point you reach the law of diminishing return. You end up paying for more than you can use. Even on the track, I don't think I could use the power of the 1125 other than at Road America or Road Atlanta where you have huge straights. | ||
| Rainman |
It looked like one of these donkey's you see in a third world country that all you see is the small little donkey with about 2 tons of shit on top of it. That's what my P-3ST looks like with the saddlebags, tailpack and tank bag strapped on. | ||
| Dentguy |
Why dont you test drive them? I dont know about Ducati Dealers but most buell dealers will let you test it. Some Buell dealers will offer a test ride and some won't (stated on here before) or may not have the model you want to ride. Find one that will. Every Ducati dealer is required to have demos available per Ducati. At least that's what I've been told by 3 different dealers. My local Duc dealer has every demo. Probably not including Desmosidici, Bayliss, Nicky Hayden, etc., but they do have those on the floor. They also have the Duc truck and the Hyper truck appearances for demo rides. Test ride them both and decide. If not you'll always wonder about the other that you didn't ride. Here is the truck schedule. http://www.ducati.com/od/ducatinorthamerica/events /detail.jhtml;jsessionid=40XPLCZTX5M2MCRNCB3CFFIKFUIHSIV1?event Id=25061 |
