| Author | Message | ||
     Odinbueller |
Holly Crap! Just got this from the AMA! "Buell 1125RR Approved for AMA Pro National Guard American Superbike Competition New American Superbike Challenger to Debut with Taylor Knapp This Weekend at Mid-Ohio DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. (July 15, 2009) - Officials from AMA Pro Racing announced today that the Buell 1125RR has been approved for competition in AMA Pro National Guard American Superbike presented by Parts Unlimited, and one of the new motorcycles is entered in this weekend's Honda Super Cycle Weekend presented by Dunlop Tires at Mid-Ohio Sports Car Course. The Buell 1125RR is the latest offering from the Buell Motorcycle Company and also the newest bike to be approved for competition in AMA Pro American Superbike. A total of 10 different motorcycles from seven different manufacturers are now approved and homologated for AMA Pro American Superbike competition. The Buell 1125RR bikes will be debuted this weekend at Mid-Ohio. Taylor Knapp, who has been impressive on a Latus Motors Racing Buell 1125R in the AMA Pro Daytona SportBike presented by AMSOIL division this season, will ride the No. 44 Buell 1125RR under his own Taylor Knapp Racing banner at Mid-Ohio. The leading privateer has also campaigned a Suzuki GSX-R1000 in American Superbike this year and has ranked in the top-10 in the class point standings for the majority of the season. He has posted seven top-10 American Superbike finishes, including a season-best sixth in the Saturday final at Infineon Raceway. He has also earned a pair of fourths on the Buell Daytona SportBike in the Sunday final at Road Atlanta in April and at Race 1 last month at Road America. The Buell 1125RR is the second motorcycle approved for premier class competition in AMA Pro Road Racing in the last three weeks. Just prior to the Fourth of July Weekend Red Bull U.S. Grand Prix at Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca, AMA Pro approved the KTM 990 Super Duke for competition in AMA Pro Daytona SportBike presented by AMSOIL. The bike was given its AMA Pro Road Racing debut by Tri-Valley Moto and rider Eric Gulbransen who finished 28th out of 39 entered bikes on the No. 394 KTM 990 Super Duke. This weekend's Honda Super Cycle Weekend features dual American Superbike and Daytona SportBike finals on Saturday and Sunday. Also on the schedule are rounds for AMA Pro SuperSport presented by Shoei East and AMA Pro SunTrust Moto-GT. AMA Pro Racing is the premier professional motorcycle racing organization in North America, operating a full schedule of events and championships for a variety of motorcycle disciplines. From its Daytona Beach headquarters, the organization operates and manages AMA Pro Road Racing, which includes AMA Pro American Superbike, AMA Pro Daytona SportBike, AMA Pro SuperSport and AMA Pro SunTrust Moto-GT. AMA Pro Racing also manages and works closely with the day-to-day operational organizations of the AMA Pro Flat Track Championship and the AMA Pro Supermoto Championship Series in addition to other two-wheel and ATV series. Learn more about AMA Pro Racing at www.amaproracing.com." WooHoo! | ||
| Jscott |
Specs http://www.buell.com/en_us/racing/racing-news/deta il.asp?news_id=1459 | ||
| Jscott |
Pic http://www.cyclenews.com/articles/road-racing/2009 /07/15/the-buell | ||
| Jscott |
Better http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?artic le=37323 | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Holy Shyt. This isn't a joke! Sahwing. I almost tipped my desk over! (I wish). | ||
| Fresnobuell |
PS--SOmeone needs to sign Knapp to a contract ASAP. He's young, He's fast. He's hungry. I wish him ALL the best at Mid-Ohion. | ||
| Rfischer |
$40K eh...? Seriously doubt there'll be much of a line at the door. | ||
| Clarkjw |
Bore it 6mm to 1190 (1.61 BxS ratio), put titanium rods in, dual stage injectors and a custom Termignoni exhaust, make it 1.5 inches narrower at the fairing, and I'm sold. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Seriously doubt there'll be much of a line at the door. $40K is not for a street version, but turnkey Superbike. I wonder what the cost of building a Superbike from a production literbike? It's loads cheaper than in years past, but it's got to be at least as much as the 1125RR. | ||
| Rsh |
It has been stated here and elsewhere that you could build a 1125R "Daytona Sportbike" for 20K including the bike. They must have made some serious mods to double the cost to build a "Superbike". I can't wait to watch the race. | ||
| Swampdog225 |
I wonder what the dyno numbers on this beast are going to be. I highly doubt if BMC or the MoCo would go the trouble of developing a platform to be released to the world press unless it is a world beater. Given the PERCEIVED failures of the XBRR and the media scrutiny that the 1125R has already been under, one can only assume that we will see a significant boost in power that will put in on par with the IL4s in the Superbike class. We can only wait and see what happens this weekend. | ||
| Bigschwerm |
if they offer a street version i would seriously think about getting my hands on one | ||
| Froggy |
Isn't that about the same as what the XBRR was? This is the same thing, just the next generation of it. How long before people ask how to make it streetable?  | ||
| Rfischer |
Seems to me the price point was selected to go head-to-head with the Duc Superbike [also $40K], rather than a precisely determined cost plus approach. That said, it will stand or fall on its track results. Which can be a good, or bad, thing. Anybody remember the quaint XBRR?? For what it's worth, I think a Japanese Superbike can be built for a good deal less than $40K. That said, development costs to get a podium-worthy bike can double that. As will be the case for the 1125RR. It's the nature of racing at these exalted levels. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Duc Superbike [also $40K] I am curious as to the add'l cost that goes into the 1098R that Pegram rides...from all accounts the production 1098R} model is basically a Superbike with lights and turn signals. | ||
| Badlionsfan |
Can't wait to see the (hopefully) mighty 1125rr in action Sunday in person at Mid-Ohio. | ||
| Buellsrule |
I know of one current racer in Sportbike that spent 15K(not including the bike) to make the bike competitive. It ain't cheap. | ||
| Schmitty |
Let the ignorance and bitching begin!! Leave it to Superbike Planet! http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2009/Jul/090715d.ht m http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2009/Jul/090715e.ht m Schmitty | ||
| Osup |
"As is becoming characteristic with Buell they just can't bear to merely bring a gun to a gunfight, it's always gotta be a Gatling gun (of their own design) to a fist-fight." Maybe the other manufacturers ought to build themselves a Gatling gun and quit their bitching! | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Now the question is homologation. Buell is taking the base 1125r model and hopping it up. I don't see the difference between BMC doing the work or Rockstar Makita Suzuki making a Superbike out of a stock Gixxer. As long as the engine/suspension/body work is within the Superbike allowances, it's all good. Or maybe BMC has promised a 1125RR production model shortly down the road. This has happened with either the Aprillia RSV4 or BMWS1000RR in WSBK. | ||
| Pariah |
With the uprated valvetrain (and lightened internals), it must have a much higher redline, which is probably where they are making more power. According to BMW, the finger follower valvetrain on their BMW S1000RR can be cranked WAAAY UP (and it's already at 14.5k, stock). I wonder if the 1125RR is up near 15,000RPM. That would hit close to 200hp (at the crank) for sure. Anybody guess? You gotta realize there is a lot of hidden potential in the Helicon, and Buell's been keeping quiet about it. MH (Message edited by pariah on July 15, 2009) | ||
| Swampdog225 |
I agree completely Fresno... | ||
| Wfo_rey |
Looks like this the Buell you need, <grin> http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2009/07/15/buell -1125rr-race-only-motorcycle/ | ||
| Clarkjw |
LOL at this bike making 200hp@15000 Spring valve twins have a max potential redline of about 12,000. Bored to 1190, with all the titanium bits the ducati 1198R has, the bike could at most make 180hp. Ducati uses desmodromic valves. Wiki that to } | ||
| Palmer |
which bikes are in this competition? (sorry i'm a disinformed poor italian moron  ) | ||
| Boltrider |
Drooling everywhere  | ||
| Pariah |
Spring valve twins have a max potential redline of about 12,000. Where'd y'all get that number from? Is that 'cause that's what desmos get? True, maybe not 15k, but I think more than 12k RPM is not out of the question. With more compression (which I'm sure they're running) 200hp I think is within reach, too. The finger follower valvetrain on the IL4 Bimmer has a potential max of about 18k-20k, at least that's what their engineers state. Based on that, I think there's a lot more potential in the Buell's engine than you might think... which bikes are in this competition? Superbikes... all the Japanese 1000cc IL4s, Ducati 1198S, etc. Correct me if I'm wrong. (Message edited by pariah on July 15, 2009) | ||
| Hootowl |
I'm guessing that if Buell sold race teams a stock 1125R and a box of parts sufficient to produce an 1125RR, no one would be complaining. That's all the other manufacturers do, except you and I could never hope to buy the box of parts. | ||
| Badlionsfan |
Palmer Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 06:35 pm: which bikes are in this competition? (sorry i'm a disinformed poor italian moron) 1000cc Japanese makes, duc 1098 and aprilia something. Series is dominated by matt mladin on his suzi gsxr-1000, on the same team Ben Spies was on before he got the wsbk gig. | ||
| Rainman1ne |
I wonder if we would be able to purchase the larger air box/intake through buell racing. |
