| Author | Message | ||
     Buellnick |
The knee in the grass photo is great! | ||
| White |
That top photo of the 1125 with the full fairing looks great. Is that fairing for sale? | ||
| Ponti1 |
White, that's the Buell full fairing, and is available to anyone with the $$$ as far as I know. | ||
| White |
Who sells it? How much is it? | ||
| Ponti1 |
Available through Buell Racing. It's up around the $2K mark, but I'm not sure of the exact price. | ||
| Ridenusa4l |
fiberglass is like 1500 and 2400 for carbon fiber Jake | ||
| Duggram |
You know you can get similar results with the Flexiglass side panels and the belly pan from Grand Stand Designs. Just look at the pics of Teach's bike. Really nice. Cost is like $450. I have them on my race bike too but I installed them wrong. I'll have a new set as soon as I get back to work. | ||
| Clbofaz |
Curious, what effect do those body panels have on the bikes temp? What about engine heat the rider feels? I'm inclined to say the enclosure makes it run hotter but streamlining more airflow over the engine may reduce temp. Then again the could always they balance out. | ||
| Ducdood9 |
I would say that the good air management benefits would out weigh any containment as plastic will not hold heat.. The engine wrapped in that frame "metal" is likely a demon in in trying to keep it cool as the firing parts are the most concealed by materials that DO hold heat, Yes I like the frame I think it adds to the rigidity that adds to the world renowned handling, But everything comes with a price, in this case heat may be part of that frames unintended consequences. | ||
| Lunatic |
any one know where the bellypan for that CR is from. and those exhaust pipes look interesting on it. | ||
| Teddagreek |
Are the frame walls on the 1125 thinner? I was looking at the textured powder coat on a CR, and I rapped the side of the tank with my knuckles.. It actually plinked like a steel gas tank nearly empty.. | ||
| Thenamesnelson |
I wish Buell would bring back a tube framed bike with the Rotax engine. Ducati knows best, that aluminum frame is neat but stale | ||
| Vagelis46 |
1. A factory installed steering damper. 2. After the discussion in the motoGP thread ....http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/158 664/263453.html?1246788173 ..... a 500cc 2stroke engine would be nice for a new Buell. I just hope that this one will have no pods. | ||
| Ccryder |
"Ducati knows best, that aluminum frame is neat but stale". Hmm, grouping the Buell perimeter frame with the rest of the Aluminum frames is interesting, to say the least. Ducati has marched to a different drummer for years but, so has Buell. Anyway, back on this thread, maybe a touring model, new graphics is easy, color is not as easy since it is molded in. I would hope that a Uly or XT type would be forthcoming but it may take a little more time. Time2RIde. Neil S. | ||
| Mainstreamer |
Significant improvement in heat management.... and I might be back in the market. That may require a new frame design, bring back the tuber!! | ||
| Gregtonn |
If you want a Ducati type frame you'll have to pay Ducati type prices. One reason the tube frame was dropped was production costs. Besides the aluminum frame/tank just works better. G | ||
| Mainstreamer |
"If you want a Ducati type frame you'll have to pay Ducati type prices. One reason the tube frame was dropped was production costs. Besides the aluminum frame/tank just works better." Yea, I know what you mean about Ducati prices. Do you think Buell could build one like the Suzuki Gladius? Then they could charge Suzuki prices. Please explain your thinking on the aluminum frame and how it works BETTER. I'm looking for a cooler ride, for me that is BETTER.} | ||
| Jaimec |
Erik already did that. Watch the recently posted videos of Erik giving a tour of his original garage. Damned near every motorcycle website had an article/video of that occasion last month. Also, according to Court... keep your eyes peeled for some parts that WEREN'T supposed to be seen just yet... | ||
| Court |
>>>Please explain your thinking on the aluminum frame and how it works BETTER. The Aluminum frame is much stiffer, much easier (better economy and consistency) to manufacturer and is a great place to hold fuel. It also allows the right material to be used at the right places. It would be expensive and difficult to obtain tubing with varying strengths at various points along it's length. The Aluminum frame is elegant. By the way . . . I think the Monster trellis frame is absolutely gorgeous to look at. I have models all over my office. | ||
| Sleeper_777 |
I love the white/blue combo of the 1125R. How about a CR in white/blue? Motor is strong and has bugs worked out in 12Z download. Love the aluminum frame over the trellis, though both are a work of art. | ||
| Thenamesnelson |
"Hmm, grouping the Buell perimeter frame with the rest of the Aluminum frames is interesting, to say the least. " I didnt mean to sound like I was grouping buells frame with other aluminum frames. Its a totally different beast. I also like the aluminum frame and think it is extremely innovative and great for many uses and many bikes. I would just love to see a tube frame buell again. | ||
| Ducdood9 |
What design dissipates heat quickest? | ||
| Oddball |
Pure material comparison I believe aluminum dissipates quicker. Never seen a steel radiator. | ||
| Jdugger |
> Pure material comparison I believe aluminum dissipates quicker. Never seen a steel radiator. Aluminum is a far superior conductor than steel, which is a kinda lousy conductor, actually. Copper is better than Aluminum, but is too heavy (and soft) to be used in vehicle applications. Silver is better than both, but obviously waaaay too expensive. Aluminum is a good compromise of relatively lightweight, strong, and a pretty decent conductor. It's relatively cheap, too. That makes it a good choice for (but not univerally) many thermal and eletrical applications. | ||
| Ducdood9 |
Good call oddball. I guess the more I study the bike Im wondering about that wide thick frame filled with liquid is unintentionally holding heat close to the engine. Just an amateur observation question. The engine is hidden by more than a plastic skin. | ||
| Court |
Brass covered in lead. | ||
| Court |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayQWXlRDW_c | ||
| Zac4mac |
Sometime while you're riding your 1125, stick your hand behind you, under the fender. There's a lot of heat leaving there; notice the off-center shock? It's ducted. Heat management only is an issue in stop/go situations - try to avoid them. Heat blankets may mitigate the problem if you can't avoid low speed/hot days. I really like the fact that the 11's frame is larger, stiffer and LIGHTER than the XB frame. Frame heat has not been an issue with me at all. Any frame heat I get is usually welcomed except for a small part of late-Summer. Aluminum and Copper are very good thermal conductors. Silver is better, Diamond is the most efficient/fastest. Steel, especially some alloys of SS can be as bad a thermal conductor as common glass. Z | ||
| Bob_thompson |
All great points made Zac and as Jdugger said "I believe aluminum dissipates heat quicker" and indeed it does. The only problem I have had with my 1125R, as Zac said, is in real slow stop and go traffic. But I know as soon as I can get a little speed up and in some air flow the heat will dissipate quickly also. Buell engineering got this one absolutely right. | ||
| Redscuell |
That pace bike fairing is gorgeous indeed. Based on looks alone I'd love to have one on my road bike; functionally, though, for a road bike I'd hate to go over with full fairings, based on the long, wide road-rash stripe I saw on the side of a Ducati at the panel beater's shop. For improvements on the 1125R: Erik has promised that some of my suggestions for improvements are under consideration. |
