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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Saturday, July 11, 2009 - 01:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'd say that the valve left the engine in pieces out the exhaust.

Geez.

Hate that it happened, but somehow I get an odd enjoyment from seeing the aftermath of a grenaded engine. It's amazing what happens when things go terribly wrong.
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Ridenusa4l
Posted on Saturday, July 11, 2009 - 02:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yea tell me about it lol

Jake

(Message edited by ridenusa4l on July 11, 2009)
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Saturday, July 11, 2009 - 02:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My guess is that what toasted the bottom end was the chunk of the piston punched out by the valve stem more than the valve itself.

I doubt the valve could have passed that hole.
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Ridenusa4l
Posted on Saturday, July 11, 2009 - 02:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yea very true, but it was under warranty and it was TOASTED anyway so i just said, "F%%$ it"... either way the engine was gone...

Jake
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Saturday, July 11, 2009 - 07:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

parts fail. even hand built $100k nascar engines where the best of the best parts are used break valves, valve springs, etc.

At least by riding it you trashed it enough to get a complete new mill. had you shut it off right away it may have been fixable.
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Boogiman1981
Posted on Saturday, July 11, 2009 - 08:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

and didn't leave you walking. that is pretty awesome. just glad covered under warrenty
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Reepicheep
Posted on Saturday, July 11, 2009 - 09:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cool shots. I would *totally* want that piston for my desk...
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Carbonbigfoot
Posted on Saturday, July 11, 2009 - 10:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Glad you're going to get baby back soon!

The cam chain tensioner thing... there was a bad batch of them that went into some CR's, not all of them. They narrowed it down to a certain window of build dates...

R
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Chadhargis
Posted on Saturday, July 11, 2009 - 10:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Best part of blowing up an engine is getting a new one. : )
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Ponti1
Posted on Saturday, July 11, 2009 - 11:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Best part of blowing up an engine is getting a new one.

Does that make the worst part of blowing up an engine that you have to break the new one in before she's totally "right"?
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Ridenusa4l
Posted on Saturday, July 11, 2009 - 09:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i wish i could get that piston, but the dealer is required to reassemble the engine and send it back to buell for analysis...sigh..

Ok good to know about the CR's

and thats wat im not looking forward to...breaking it in again: (...oh well

so i wonder...since buell is in the process of converting the company to the 10' models...will i get an 09' or 10' engine??? hmmm...im hoppin for the first production 10' engine to hit the streets!! lol

THANX
Jake
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Sunday, July 12, 2009 - 01:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They have an order of engines in with surplusses of 09 engines sourced. My guess is that you'll get an 09 engine since they have plenty left.
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Ridenusa4l
Posted on Sunday, July 12, 2009 - 01:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

damn...owell lol, at least ill get the injectors and stator lol...

Jake
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Chadhargis
Posted on Sunday, July 12, 2009 - 12:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Breaking in an engine is fun. Ride it hard, hard, hard, hard. : )
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Chameleon
Posted on Monday, July 13, 2009 - 07:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Since you're in AZ, it would probably be a great idea to get that 2009 inner heat shield lining ordered & installed...
Best time to do so is while the motor is out!
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Freezerburn840
Posted on Monday, July 20, 2009 - 06:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

have no problem with Red Line.
I put Red Line 10W-40 in last fall, just changed the oil - RL 20W-50 for the warm months ahead.
If I lived in any further South, I'd probably run their 20W-60.

The ONLY reason I quit using Syn3 was a lack of viscosity options.

Zack


I believe in my 09 Firebolt manual states that an SAE 60 weight can be used if temps are consistantly above 80 degrees which I live in Murrieta Ca. I saw 105 last weekend everyday for the past month has been over 80. I have the redline 20 60 hd oil in my bike right now and so far its running good.

(Message edited by freezerburn840 on July 20, 2009)
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Ridenusa4l
Posted on Tuesday, July 21, 2009 - 03:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

well i should have it back ANY day, they have the engine and are just waiting on a few small parts : )

THANX
Jake
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, July 21, 2009 - 07:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>well i should have it back ANY day

What'd I tell you?

: )


quote:

Should be no problem getting it fixed pronto.


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Ridenusa4l
Posted on Tuesday, July 21, 2009 - 02:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

hahahaha touche court, i never had any doubts lol, my dealer is AWESOME they have NEVER done me wrong, so just wanna send a thanx to Grand Canyon HD, if probably best in AZ!!!

Dnlink, sorry to hear that....get a new dealer ; )

THANX
Jake
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Swordsman
Posted on Tuesday, July 21, 2009 - 04:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Glad to see you were able to keep your chin up through this whole mess!

~SM
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Clbofaz
Posted on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 01:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And now you can break that bad boy in at gates pass and mt lemon here in Tucson!
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Ridenusa4l
Posted on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 05:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

hey chris,
pm with the info ; ) THANX

Jake
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 06:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>As far as the water pump goes...Still not fixed.

Sucks to be you, huh?
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Dnlink
Posted on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 09:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>As far as the water pump goes...Still not fixed.

Yea it sucks. From what my customer oriented dealer says (sarcasm) Buell is aware of the problem. Its not very common and they don't have a 100% fix yet. I guess replacing the crush washer only fixes it sometimes. I would think that Rotax would be responsible for finding the fix but who knows. I'm not real excited for my dealer to be mucking about inside my motor. I will just have to wait and see.
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Clbofaz
Posted on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 04:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thought Id post it for any others that live or venture out here. Here's the Google links to the rides:

Gates Pass:
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=gates+pass+tucson+az &oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&ie=UTF8&hl=en&safe=on&l l=32.219627,-111.072807&spn=0.049232,0.077162&z=14

Just head west on speedway and dont stop until you drop down the otehr side of the mountain. Its short but fun. And dangerous. Take it easy on the first run. Lots of bikers go into the wall or over the edge. You'll know where when you see it.

Mt Lemmon:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=c atalina+HWY+and+tanque+verde+tucson+az&daddr=summe rhaven+tucson+az&geocode=&hl=en&mra=ls&sll=32.3747 05,-110.721635&sspn=0.196592,0.308647&safe=on&ie=U TF8&ll=32.322825,-110.76004&spn=0.196704,0.308647& z=12

A long ride with lots of big twistiest you can hit at triple digit speeds. Great view of Tucson and cliffs. Also, careful on the first run or until you get comfortable. The first switchback at the base is killer and comes on fast (especially at night). Ride up and down and youll want a nap when you get home as all the concentration makes you exhausted.
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Ridenusa4l
Posted on Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 01:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well i got my bike back thursday, but didnt get to ride it till sat (i was seeing family in IL) a few things i noticed with the new 09' engine:

1. the engine itself is WAY quieter than my old engine EVER was, no more clatter, clatter : )

2. OMG the power difference is AMAZING, the bikes power starts coming on strong around 3k instead of 5k-6k,and it is WAY snappier and ruthless ; )

3. There is a noticeable increase in MPG, around 3 mpg increase : )

now the bad...

last night i was about 20mi. from home gettin a bite to eat, and i was passing someone, when all off the sudden i feel my rear end start slipping(so i thought) and wat felt like a flat tire...guess wat...it shredded about 20+ teeth off the belt, and i was required to ride my bike at about 55mph, the WHOLE way home, at least i made it home but still, after 2 days of the best performance my bike has ever given me, and now i cant ride it for probably another week : (...o well...that what the warranties are for..

Jake
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Smoke
Posted on Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 07:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

damn,
you need to do something different in the morning to shake off that cloud over your shoulder. glad the engine is running great though!!
tim
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Mrbikle
Posted on Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 11:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

run of bad luck it seems, but congrats on the new engine. I'm really envious of the new oil sight on the side of the block...that would be the main reason I would want an '10
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Carbonbigfoot
Posted on Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 12:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hmmm. Wonder if that was a doomed engine from the start, with the noise and lack of power....

R
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Ridenusa4l
Posted on Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 03:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Carbon- Thats what im thinkin, because this thing has NEVER run this good...

Jake
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Mrbikle
Posted on Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 06:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

enjoy the power gain then, lol. I always putt around on mine and forget about how much power these bikes have. I did a WOT run 1st through 3rd on the way home and quickly rationalized that this is no 1200 air-cooled.
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