| Author | Message | ||
     Clbofaz |
The number of registrants and post would probably fall though, if matters to anyone... | ||
| Ducdood9 |
Fresnobuell ; "i don't see any reason to fault Buell" I'm curious. Who do you think is responsible? I don't think its the owners fault for finding this site and asking the question. Also, I can think of another way to keep this type post from reoccurring other than creating sticky threads. They could replace all the effected signals with the new ones by sending notices to the owners. That way you would not have to get upset at your fellow owners for asking questions about their non working ones? | ||
| Court |
I guess I lead a sheltered life . . of all the things that could upset my day a faulty turn signal doesn't make the cut. It's an inconvenience, a PITA . . but it's still a turn signal. There were not may effected units and it's an easy fix. If yours is bad, get it fixed and ride the heck out of the bike. | ||
| Dobieg2002 |
You guys must be bored... I brought it up again because I havn't seen anything regarding 09's. I am getting it replaced under warranty no big deal. It has black sealant, so I guess the final revision arrived after my 09 was built. | ||
| Marcodesade |
You want Rev "D" of the turn signals, there will be a "D" suffix on the part number on the box. I just replaced mine (3rd time in 6500 miles). Although it has the "good" grey sealant - and the apparently meaningless white stripe on the wire - I don't see a "D" on the part number (Y0527.1AM) or anywhere else - box, bag, or part. The old part does have the black sealant. I will now proceed to ride the heck out of the bike. Thanks Court! | ||
| Fresnobuell |
"i don't see any reason to fault Buell" Dood, do not take my comments oout of context. What I wrote: "i don't see any reason to fault Buell about how the signal issue was handled." I hope you can see the difference between the two statements. Once in for all...it's a friggin turn signal that's being replaced under warranty. Oh the drama. (Message edited by fresnobuell on June 20, 2009) | ||
| Avc8130 |
The only concern I have is that warranty periods run out and then the consumer could be left with $47 signal failures to pay out of pocket. If the "Rev D" solve the problems, then hurray because I have them! ac | ||
| Zac4mac |
No doubt. Enough drama, today or tomorrow is Summer...finally. Now it needs to stop raining. Z BTW, I bought an integrated light from Robert at XBLights a year and a half ago. My signals work great. If they quit, I have a left arm. | ||
| Geforce |
Hurray for arms!  | ||
| Court |
>>>>The only concern I have is that warranty periods run out and then the consumer could be left with $47 signal failures to pay out of pocket. Such concern would be without merit. Buell has the world's best (cars and motorcycles) reputation for standing behind their products. | ||
| Palerider |
I don't have as much mileage on my '08 as others here, but I hadn't had any signal problems till I removed them while tinkering. Neither worked when I put them back on. I ordered a set from Chris at Liberty and asked him to send them because I didn't have the time to get there. As Zac had said, we do have left arms. But here in NJ I feel a little safer with signals. They still may run over you with them, but with my arm up, they're more likely to think I'm checking my deodorant than signaling. I mentioned to Chris about the Rev D and what the part # should look like according to what Court had posted. He said he wasn't aware of that. The lights are on and work but there was no D on the box or number. At a certain point could it have been possible for Buell to pull the offending units and replace them in order to save owners the extra trips to dealers for warranty? I guess that would have been like a product update as they've done on other parts. I have no worry that Buell will stand behind their product. | ||
| Socoken |
The only issue I have with them is the extra trips to the dealership. I had to: 1- Visit dealer to confirm the signal itself was bad before they could order a new one, ten days away 2- Come back in ten days later to get the signal replaced. 3- Visit the dealer two weeks later when the second one (other side) went out to confirm it was the signal that was bad, and wait ten days for a new one. 4- Return to dealer for signal replacement. In my opinion, this could have went a lot smoother if the dealer could have done one of two things. If they could keep some signals on hand, that would save two trips. If they could have acknowledged the issue and just fixed both at once, that would have saved two trips. Sure, its fixed for free of my cost, but what about the hundreds of dollars I am missing out from work in all those wasted hours of my time? | ||
| Court |
Very good point and noted. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
A good dealer does make a world of difference. Good point. Last September-ish, upon hearing that i was going on a road trip, my dealer asked BMC to overnight (or 2nd day) some signals. We did the swap in the parking lot (no need to take the bike in the back to waste more time) and upon completion, the service manager tossed me an extra signal. All he wanted was for me to keep and return the bad signal if I needed to use the spare. Well done BMC. Well done Fresno-HD Buell. | ||
| Dave_bogue |
A turn signal is a safety related item. By safety, I mean the rider's safety, particularly on a motorcycle. There's NO reason that turn signals should fail in this day in age. BMC has a legal and moral responsibility to provide a reliable turn signal on their motorcycle. I've never had a problem with unreliable turn signals or brake lights on a Japanese motorcycle, but I did on my Sportster. Would you put up with this on your family automobile? Dave | ||
| Fresnobuell |
BMC has a legal and moral responsibility to provide a reliable turn signal on their motorcycle. They have fixed the problem. What else do you want? If the turn signal is of the utmost importance to you, maybe you should stick with Japanese bikes. I hear their turn signal reputation is second to none. | ||
| Ducdood9 |
Fres, your in some rose colored fantasy world. The issue is not over until owners stop reporting failures. You support a reactive measure. If we were to be a bit more pragmatic the market does expect items mandated by DOT to be proactively handled. Replace all the possibly effected signals with the new ones and the story will die. I would be afraid waiting for a failure first to save a few $$ could cause someone to get hurt. | ||
| Palerider |
"They have fixed the problem. What else do you want? If the turn signal is of the utmost importance to you, maybe you should stick with Japanese bikes. I hear their turn signal reputation is second to none." BMC has fixed the problem, but not everyone's problems are fixed yet . You know Fresno, Dave_bogue does have a point. Too bad you're not good at answering people. Your answer to Dave was just plain POOR. Dave_bogue is right though. In almost 40,000 miles I've only had one signal bulb go out on my '88 ZX-10, just a regular old 1157. Oh Fresnobuell,if signals aren't that important to you, I hope cagers don't think you're checking your deodorant when you've got your arm up. I for one depend on the signals to work for my safety and others. Good point also Ducdood9. My apologies to Thurstonbuell with whom my original post was mixed up with Fresnobuell. (Message edited by Palerider on June 22, 2009) | ||
| Pizzaboy |
id like to point out that i bought my 1125 in may of 08. my rear turn signals went out within 2 months of having the bike. when i showed the dealership, they ordered new ones, i had it a few days later, installed them. they have worked great since that day. | ||
| Andros |
my right rear one died this morning | ||
| Ducdood9 |
Andros Posted on Monday, June 22, 2009 - 03:24 am: my right rear one died this morning Fresnobuell Posted on Sunday, June 21, 2009 - 03:55 pm: They have fixed the problem. What else do you want? If the turn signal is of the utmost importance to you, maybe you should stick with Japanese bikes. I hear their turn signal reputation is second to none. Ducdood9 says this sounds like enough. If people from Buell read this board issue a customer service/we love you/recall/ what ever your marketing department wants to call it. Court says its better than any car or bike warranty so issue a press release today to have your signals checked and replaced ASAP. Just an idea from a guy reading up about what bike to buy next. | ||
| Ponti1 |
I think the point here is that there is a known fix for the issue. Some are running their original signals, and some are running replacement signals from before the "fixed" version was available. Why recall them all when there is a good chance they won't go bad to begin with? If your signal goes out, go get a new one, and verify (or have the dealer verify) that it is either labeled "Rev D" or has gray sealant in it instead of black. I appreciate this being labeled as a safety item, though it is nowhere close to one that can be deemed critical (for example, braking issue, throttle sticking, etc.). For those of you that just bought one, did you hear of the turn signal issue prior to purchase? If so, what did the dealer say when you inquired about having new revision signals installed before you took delivery? | ||
| Dave_bogue |
"I appreciate this being labeled as a safety item, though it is nowhere close to one that can be deemed critical (for example, braking issue, throttle sticking, etc.)." ============================ Not to mention,.........the solenoid/stalling issue. Part of dealer prep should be disconnecting the solenoid and giving it to the customer. Safety first! BTW,I'm sure there are numerous lurkers on this forum that are prospective 1125 purchasers, myself included. Dave | ||
| Steeleagle |
Reliance 100% on a driver/rider signaling their intentions to turn is a recipe for disaster. Personally I find more drivers/riders don't even USE their turn signals. Rider be aware! Human failure is more prevalent than unit failure, from my observations, applied to bikes and cagers alike. My 4500 mile 1125R still has functional original turn signals, and it sucks that some folks have had problems and repeat problems. I'm also aware that the law requires all drivers/riders to signal their intentions to make a turn. On any given day I see around 25% of the folks that don't, so I stay on my toes. Pinning responsibility for the driver/rider's safety in any proportion on the vehicle manufacturer for something like a turn signal is a sad symptom of today's litigious society. | ||
| Dave_bogue |
A comment regarding hand signals and taking a hand off the handlebars while in traffic: you cannot effectively stop your motorcycle with only one hand on the grips. Yes, we all take a hand (typically the clutch hand) off the bars from time to time, but be aware that you have to get that hand back on the grip before you clamp on that front brake lever. I often see young sportbike riders sitting up with one hand on their thigh when riding in traffic. I know they do it because of the uncomfortable race-replica riding position and it looks cool, but they sure can't make an emergency stop. Be careful out there. Dave | ||
| Court |
I've also seen folks remove the stock turn signals and replace them with very ineffective aftermarket units. Unwise. | ||
| Zac4mac |
Dave - Full brakes, F&R, no clutch, the bike WILL stop... and die. IMO, no biggie, Loretta starts right up every time. YMMV FWIW, my old Harley had no signals and the stop-light was intermittent. I used hand signals all the time. Z | ||
| Metalrabbit |
I bought my 09r on May 31st last,, the right front turn signal out 4days ago and last night the tail light went out returning from a 240 mi round trip, late at night. The Buell dealer is 70mi away and I stopped up there to talk to them about the RF signal on the 1st leg of my trip. They said that I would have to bring the bike in when they had their "tech specialists" working, see if its a faulty part and Then order the part. Now this simple problem is a real pest! I can't believe that this chronic problem hasn't been addressed on the 09 model,, and Why the Huge waste of LED's on a friggin' signal that fails alot? One of the head lights seem to be flopping up and down quite a bit too,, the cars in front of me sure didn't like it either. My other bike is a 99 VFR, guess what, its getting the "trip" duty from now on. Electrical failures, out on the road,, at night!, is a big problem! not a little one. | ||
| Jdugger |
> One of the head lights seem to be flopping up and down quite a bit too,, the cars in front of me sure didn't like it either. My bike developed this about 20k as well. The good news is I pulled my headlights out when I put my #1 1125r on the track, and sent it directly to the Buell engineers who have it now specifically to look at that issue and one related to fogging of the polycarbonate lenses. The inner reflectors in the headlight body shake loose from the outer assebly given enough miles. | ||
| Metalrabbit |
well this "inner reflector" shook loose in 1200 miles |
