| Author | Message | ||
     Mr_incognito |
Ugh. So Im getting really sick of people on my local forums talking shit on Buell. Noobies that get on there, automatically dont like Buells. I dont get it? Where did the only serious USA sportbike company catch this bad wrap? Im sure you guys have already heard these, but heres what I always get: 1. Theyre junky and fall apart: Well, I did have a lot of problems on my bike when I first got it, but they fixed everything VERY promptly, and I never missed out on more than maybe an hour of riding time. 2. Theyre slow: I ride an 08 1125R, and when I go out on the weekends with all the liter jap bikes, and they decide to get crazy, im ALWAYS at the front of the pack. No one is leaving me behind! Even up to top speeds, they always talk about how much faster top end their bike will go, but they never seem to pull away....They keep using this "slow" excuse, despite the fact that im always up front. 3. Winning AMA races with twice the motor isnt impressive: These people claim to know everything in the world about AMA, but dont realize that while all these other companies are running full fledge race bikes, the 1125 running is close to stock. Not to mention, they make the races fair (obviously) motor wise. Which leads me to believe that a Buell HANDLES better than a jap bike. What kind of points do you guys use to argue against these clowns? Quite honestly, im sick of arguing, and im about to just start letting my actions speak louder than my local forum posts. Im in front of the pack on straight line speed runs, im in front of the pack on hard twisty runs, and I ride wheelies every bit as far as the next guy on a stupid Gixxer or CBR. Give me some good arguments guys! | ||
| Endoman33 |
don't try to teach a pig to sing, it just waist your time and annoys the pig Most of the guys I ride with have no problem with the Buell's just some little info about how the bike's are designed and engineered. just my 2 cents | ||
| Brapbrapbrap |
I think in these difficult economic times you may see a surge in people that want to be patriotic and buy American Made. This is the last chance of an American sportbike. I think it's good that people come here. I think its good that there is an exchange of ideas. I hope that it makes Buell stronger and more popular. A room full current customers will not grow your market as much as a room full of potential customers. You need both to thrive. | ||
| Bikejunky |
I agree with endoman33. Most of the guys around here (local area, not badweb)are just speaking from second hand experience when they talk about Buell. Remember that negatives get talked about 5 times as much as positives. it's just human nature. The good news is that Buell is growing a following. Converts are happening every day. In fact I have a customer who rides a Honda liter bike but bought an XB9SX just because he thought it was way more fun to ride. What can I say, If you build it, they will come! It just might take a while... (Message edited by bikejunky on May 10, 2009) | ||
| Mr_incognito |
I get what you guys are sayin, im just wondering when people are gonna let go of all the crap theyve HEARD....Ive never met anyone that actually owned a Buell and had something bad to say, its always the Gixxer homos. | ||
| Bikejunky |
The good thing about current customers is that they usually help create a room full of potential customers! | ||
| Madav8tr |
Stop riding with squids. | ||
| Jramsey |
+1 Madav8tr. Find new ridding buddy's Riding at the speeds you imply I'd say the KC area has a good supply of organ donors. | ||
| Mr_incognito |
Well people in KC ride pretty hard....I kinda figured by putting something like that id get an old guy or 2 that think you should ride your bike at the speed limit in full leathers all the time. No worries. Most of the people im talking about arent people I ride with, theyre people on the local forums. | ||
| Chrisrogers3 |
Look at it this way. I feel intelligence is a near direct correlation to the type of bike you ride. There are some exceptions but not many. I also think that the more someone brags the less they can perform. With that said, Buell riders I feel are by far more intelligent in knowing what they want out of a motorcycle and being able to obtain said results out of that. Just remember an untrained monkey can do 200 mph in a straight line (it takes NO intelligence to stay on the throttle and shift). Ok let me revise this so it doesnt say "buddies" So if people on "Other forums" talk crap about Buell and think their Yamakawazuki is a superior bike then chances are they dont have what it takes to own a Buell anyway. Wait a second.... You mean there are forums outside of badweatherbikes?  Anyway, why does it bother you SO much? It sounds like you just need to get out and ride more and not give a crap what others say. (Message edited by chrisrogers3 on May 10, 2009) | ||
| Mr_incognito |
One more time: Its not my "buddies," its people on the LOCAL FORUMS. | ||
| Jramsey |
"I'm ALWAYS at the front of the pack. No one is leaving me behind! That statement reminds me of a young kid I saw the other day with a new GSXR 1000, he pulled into the parking lot wearing a tank top, jams and shower shoes and said " nice looking Buell" I starred at him a moment and told him he should have bought a wave runner instead..........it pissed him off. Yes I do wear leather most of the time sometimes textile depending on the weather. I don't consider myself old at 52 just experienced. Yes I do kick it in the ass when I feel the urge but not around other riders or in traffic. (Message edited by jramsey on May 10, 2009) | ||
| Socoken |
"Just remember an untrained monkey can do 200 mph in a straight line" That would be awesome! A monkey screaming into a dash cam and flying through the speed traps at 200! Best youtube video idea ever! | ||
| Osup |
This is really funny. Our local sportbike forum spews the exact garbage. "Buells are unreliable" -or- "Buells are slow". Don't even get me started on the AMA poo that is flung around. These guys are just ridiculous. I actually went for a ride recently with one of the Buell bashers on his R6. During the ride (way out in the country), we hit speeds I wont mention here and rode very hard. This guy was dragging knees all over the place and pushing it to the limit. He never even came close to losing me. After the ride he actually told me he was embarrassed. Then I told him I didn't feel like I was pushing hard at all, opened my luggage and had a sandwich. Oh, I should mention this was on my Ulysses. | ||
| Doughnut |
That would be awesome! A monkey screaming into a dash cam and flying through the speed traps at 200! Best youtube video idea ever! HELL YES! +1 | ||
| Fresnobuell |
There are twisties in Kansas? | ||
| Slaughter |
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| Bikejunky |
+1 Osup I know a guy that rides his xb12x like that with his grandson on a Gizzer 600. It's a blast to watch that guy rip it up! | ||
| Doughnut |
RIDE! That is all you really need to know to be happy. | ||
| Geforce |
***DANGER: RANT IN PROGRESS*** I always find that people that trash Buell are just ignorant. I've never talked to anyone who's owned one and just bashed the crap out of them. Most people who swing a leg over one actually enjoy the ride and it's starts the gears to turning in their head about why it's more fun and easier to ride. Another part of it is fitting in. I have some V-Twin buddies and my Buell is accepted and well respected with their Aprillas, Ducatis, etc. And like wise. Buell is more of a direct comparison to those bikes than an IL4 series. Lack of experience and understanding usually leads to a running mouth. Fear is a great way to make people panic and quickly turn on something like a raging mob. Much like Democracy, Glad the USA is a Republic, for now. I honestly believe sport bike riders see a dark storm brewing on the horizon, a deep thunder roaring in the distance, and when lightening crashes they see an electrified "Buell" amongst the clouds. This is frightening because they can't leave the safety of cookie cutter land, and this storm is about to hit, and hit hard. It's been brewing for 25 years now and it's unstoppable. Get out of the way, go home, hear comes rolling thunder. Let them bash us and talk crap behind our backs, I respect motorcycles for what they are, a great machine. Everyone is different and has certain tastes, but as with anything, when the underdog stomps @ss, the whiners complain and are the first to throw flags about being unfair. I've ridden quite a few motorcycles, to include Jap bikes. I have an affinity for GSXRs, but my love affair with Buell is everlasting. Humble people often have a very methodical and logical way of thinking. When they don't understand something, they break it down and look at as many angles as possible to better understand it. By doing so, you gain experience. How many of you can tell what is wrong with a car or truck just by listening to it? Or feeling it through the handle bars or steering wheel? Happened to me just this past December. I drove my Silverado SS up to PA and the front of the vehicle started to have an offset vibration under acceleration. The entire trip up there I thought about what it might be and then it hit me. Front Differential is amiss. Sure enough, took it to the dealer, the needle bearings were out. I used to drag race a lot. You run into these people a lot. They nay say and bash things they don't understand. True enthusiasts are those who enjoy a machine for what it is. No matter what sort of hiccups or problems it has. They always see the strengths. Let 'em live in ignorance, We all know Buell is not the best thing ever. No bike is, they are all a part of something great and should be enjoyed by the riders who share the engineer's and designer's passion for building it. My reasons, I give a flying fudge bucket who says what about Buell not being American made. The motorcycle is, maybe not all of the parts, but it is built by hard working Americans who have this passion we ll love and share. I think that Buell products are very well made, and supported. Everyone has had their experiences but often times the way you approach a problem will directly impact the outcome and resolution. Being a Veteran, I have a great sense of pride to ride this motorcycle, and I will always do my best to teach anyone who is willing to listen about them. So eff em, go ride and let the performance shine. ***WARNING: SUBSEQUENT RANTS MAY BE RAMPANT, READ WITH CAUTION*** | ||
| Doughnut |
So you agree, just RIDE? | ||
| Geforce |
Yep. | ||
| Doughnut |
Most people have thier own passions. Many I am afraid to say have none and grab onto what is "there". I LOVE Buell, Pontiac (Buick, Olds.), beer, USA, my mother, my job, who ever I chose to be a part of my life. I really hate to say this, but like the saying goes, "If you don't understand, I can't explain." I can respect the need to defend it, but I understand that no matter how strongly I do so, "they" will still not understand. (Message edited by Doughnut on May 10, 2009) | ||
| Brapbrapbrap |
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| Pariah |
If you're a good rider (and it sounds like you are), it doesn't matter what you're riding. Bikes aren't cars, the human factor is so much more important to riding. That's why I don't get the preoccupation with specs when it comes to motorcycles. It's like music... it's the musician. Totally the player. You could have the most expensive instrument with the best workmanship and hardware, but ultimately it's the player who makes the music. A fabulous instrument enhances things, but you have to be an expert to exploit such nuances. Riding is the same deal... attend trackdays, take courses, work on your craft. Ride the bike that makes you happy. | ||
| Brapbrapbrap |
And eat food high in fiber. | ||
| Junkyrddog780 |
Dont worry about the wankers out there. They used to make fun of me for riding my grandfathers 1970 CB750 to school, till the one day I pulled a 20 foot rolling burnout out of the parking lot. Ride what makes you happy. Dont worry about anyone else. | ||
| Stoppieking76 |
I work at a Harley Buell dealer here in Maine, we had a Buell demo day, had a 1125 R and a CR for demo's, ill tell ya alot of the local guys riding CBR's and GSX-R's were very impressed with the power and handeling of the Buell, a few of the guys were even thinking about selling the bike they are on now just to run the 1125 R | ||
| Fresnobuell |
+1 Pariah. At the track, I have seen Ninja 250s pass squids on liter bikes in the corners like they were standing still. |
