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Ds_tiger
Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 09:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm not a body language expert, but.......


http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?artic le=35923
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Brent1125russ
Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 09:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Way to go Buell Racing!! If the Yamakawahonduki guys thinks it only takes displacement to win, give them a 130hp V8 for all I care.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 09:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That's hilarious.
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Ponti1
Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 09:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

LOL. Yeah, they were not too happy!
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Jcbikes
Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 10:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Way to go Danny!
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Dbird29
Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 10:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hacking was especially courteous by cleaning his leathers while Eslick was talking and he seemed to enjoy all the booger picking.
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Carbonbigfoot
Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 10:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The race was obviously run today, when does it air?

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Badlionsfan
Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 10:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If it's all about the engine cc's, how come Buell didn't sweep the top 5, with the Aprillia right behind them???

Effin cry babies.
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Gregtonn
Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 10:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rob,
This should help.
http://www.tvracer.com/

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Xb984r
Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 11:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"If it's all about the engine cc's, how come Buell didn't sweep the top 5, with the Aprillia right behind them??? "

Why isn't Buell competitive in Superbike? People here like to use HP as an excuse for Buell in Superbike but don't see the 525 cc advantage and 40 HP advantage they are getting in Daytona Sportbike.
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Spank
Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 11:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Please correct me if I'm wrong. Don't the 600 cc bikes have somewhere in the 120's for horsepower stock?
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Anonymous
Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 11:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yep, 400 lb privateer bikes with 140RWHP competing against 365 lb factory bikes with 130RWHP. Real unfair. Man the losers are not on the track; they are on the internet!
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Brapbrapbrap
Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 11:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You can tell they are going to fire up the CC argument big time.
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Xb984r
Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 11:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Yep, 400 lb privateer bikes with 140RWHP competing against 365 lb factory bikes with 130RWHP. Real unfair. Man the losers are not on the track; they are on the internet!"

Privateer,yeah right try that one somewhere else. Tell me Anony what made Eslick's bike so much faster that the other 1125's?
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Spank
Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 11:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I guess what I was getting at is there isn't a terrible difference when you weigh out the specs!

I've been going back and fourth with this with a friend of mine all day about this. He's a big Suzuki fan.
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Rockstarblast1
Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 11:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

lol i loved it when he asked what he thought about the buell comming so fast out of the tight turns and his answer was "i dont know i never really came that close to him" lmfao!!!!!!!!!!!
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Carbonbigfoot
Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 11:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Privateer,yeah right try that one somewhere else. Tell me Anony what made Eslick's bike so much faster that the other 1125's

Uuuuhhh. Eslick?

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Fresnobuell
Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 11:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

40 HP advantage they are getting in Daytona Sportbike.

Brilliant statement..how you figure that?
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Xb984r
Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 11:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Excuse me Fresno,I was talking stock bike and I guess its more like 20 to 30 HP more

(Message edited by xb984r on March 22, 2009)
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Brapbrapbrap
Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 11:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What is private about Geico's $$$
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Monday, March 23, 2009 - 12:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Excuse me Fresno,I was talking stock bike and I guess its more like 20 to 30 HP more

If you don't think the IL4 teams aren't tuning their bikes to get as much of the 140HP maximum, you're crazy.

The spread between the HP at the wheel isn't that much.
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Monday, March 23, 2009 - 01:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Privateer doesn't mean unsponsored.
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Monday, March 23, 2009 - 01:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The buell's post race weight was 397 pounds.
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Brent1125russ
Posted on Monday, March 23, 2009 - 03:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Uuuuhhh. Eslick?

+10
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Court
Posted on Monday, March 23, 2009 - 06:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>Tell me Anony what made Eslick's bike so much faster that the other 1125's?

I think you have to give Eslick a lot of credit. He got dropped from the "A list" and knew he'd never have another shot at the majors. At 22 he has a bit of the piss and vinegar with a liberal dose of skill.


We'll be seeing more Buells doing well this year.
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Court
Posted on Monday, March 23, 2009 - 06:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Privateer refers, typically, to lack of factory (like the $7,000,000 Honda budget) backing.

Many privateers, in fact nearly ALL, seek and get private contributions. I've sponsored several race teams over the years and enjoyed it.

The folks at Geico seem to be enjoying the Buell as well . . . . easy on the pocket, lots of positive exposure and just plain fun group of enthusiasts.

I was intrigued, at the 2009 Porsche Launch, on Saturday that 2 of my car buddies who ride "other brands" are now Buell curious and want me to arrange demo rides for them.
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Xb984r
Posted on Monday, March 23, 2009 - 07:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"If you don't think the IL4 teams aren't tuning their bikes to get as much of the 140HP maximum, you're crazy."

Notice I said stock. I thought this was race class was going to be great for racing because the "privateers" were going to have a chance, I guess that only applied to Buell riders, and if anyone believes that the Buell is a "Privateer "effort in the true sense of the word, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.
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Hooliagn
Posted on Monday, March 23, 2009 - 07:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

IMO......
I think you will see Buell competitive in superbike in years to come. Give them time to get their feet wet. I also think we're going to see just much that Rotax motor can be worked in the not so distant future.

This is a new day for Buell ....
I previously owned a Duc, this Rotax is an impressive motor.
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Madav8tr
Posted on Monday, March 23, 2009 - 07:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Stock or not, the bikes are close in terms of overall performance. The Buell may have an advantage in the HP/TQ department but it has disadvantages in the weight and braking department. The results from yesterday prove it as does the fact that the fastest laps of the race were set by 600's. Personally, I think that Eslick just flat out rode better than Hacking or DiSalvo or Cardenas.
Eslick pic
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Court
Posted on Monday, March 23, 2009 - 08:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

Likely won't surprise many that you currently own it.

: )
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