| Author | Message | ||
     P_squared |
Since there's been a lot going on in the development of aftermarket exhausts available for our bikes, thought I'd throw this in here for everyone. 1125 exhaust options & pricing based on guick google search & info on BWB. **NOTE: Prices noted below do NOT include shipping costs and/or any discounts from sponsors, friends, etc.. Prices have been rounded to the nearest USD amount. -HR1: $425 (Based on search results. Pipe is not listed on the manufacturer’s website) -HMF: $480 -Jardine: $500 aluminum/$600 Stainless or Titanium -D&D: $690 -Remus: $710 Black/$737 Stainless from Trojan -Drummer: $980 -TM: ~$980 (Price is still TBD per GrandStandDesigns link) -Saron: $1,037 from Trojan -Buell Race: $1,800 (Race license required) I'll leave the talk on weight/HP/TQ of the above pipes to everyone else. If there's pipes I've missed, please feel free to add in. | ||
| Carbonbigfoot |
Nice. Thanks for the legwork! R | ||
| Carbonbigfoot |
Where did you find the reference to the Buell Race Exhaust? R | ||
| P_squared |
Right here on BWB: http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/158 664/436453.html?1234806088 | ||
| Socoken |
Thanks for doing that list! That just leaves looks and power, and looks are subjective. As far as power, I think most of those pipes break even or make a few peak HP, with the Saron and the drummer making around ten more. Guess you gotta pay the piper to play! | ||
| Duggram |
Looks don't really matter if you're running a belly pan. On the Latus bikes I saw at Vegas you couldn't tell much about the factory pipe because they use the Catalyst fairing with integral belly pan. | ||
| Jersey_thunder |
$1800.00 !!!!!! does it come with a dyno tune?LMAO...GEEEEZ JT | ||
| Slaughter |
Keep in mind, the Buell Race pipe is the ONLY one that is a full exhaust system - all the others are slip-ons. $1800 is about par for the course for a limited production race exhaust system - not a slip on. I don't mean to trivialize a properly designed slip-on!!! You have all read the amount of effort gone into some of the slip-on cans on the list. Some of the others are just styling and noise exercises, some are truly performance-based. Besides, many on the list make MORE noise than the racing exhaust. (Message edited by slaughter on February 16, 2009) | ||
| Jersey_thunder |
Slaughter, your 100% correct...but for a privateer, OUCH!..my first year with a track bike..i'm learning, but to be honest..$2k?...i'll let some people ring out all the options before i go and get one. | ||
| Slaughter |
Yeah price IS a painful thing to consider. That's why I ALWAYS say to put money into suspension and handling and braking and seat time BEFORE even turning a wrench on the engine itself. The ONLY reason to change exhaust in the first season or racing is to reduce weight and improve handling without penalizing power. In the case of ANY inline four, price out a full exhaust, they're all going to be about $2 large. | ||
| Hellgate |
JT - I'm not trying to be smart but if you are worried about $1,800 for an exhaust are you sure you want to race? A typical race weekend can easily cost $750 to $1,000+. Travel, fuel, lodging, tires, track fees, food, etc. add up very, very quickly. Yes the exhaust is expensive and as a racer you need to manage a smart budget, but in for a penny in for a pound... As Slaughter stated suspension tuning and rider coaching is the best bang for the buck to gain speed. | ||
| Slaughter |
Hellgate - I'd LOVE to be able to race for only $1K per weekend... and I only live 30 minutes from Willow Springs where I usually race. (no hotel and transportation costs) EVERY expense should be balanced against seat time. EXPERIENCE is the priority. $800 exhaust? 4-6 track days? Which will help me to go faster sooner? A big dinner out with the ladyfriend can be ONE REAR TIRE. If she doesn't understand WHY that's an issue - you have the wrong ladyfriend.  | ||
| Jersey_thunder |
hellgate, i'm not so sure your 100% correct...i know a lot of racers that would have a tough time spending $2K for a exhaust..slaughter said it best"The ONLY reason to change exhaust in the first season or racing is to reduce weight and improve handling without penalizing power." with many other options and money to be spent...at this point in my case..i think dollar 4 dollar ...weight reduction..handleing mods..track time in the saddle is money better spent..and by this time next year..after market option will be 4 times the amount they are now my .02 JT | ||
| Hellgate |
Please don't misunderstand me, I'm not saying it isn't a lot of $$$, just that in the scope of an entire season of racing it is just one component of the total spend, and yes each racers need to weigh the value of the individual cost. I agree fully, suspension, weight reduction and rider skills are the biggest contributors to going fast. | ||
| Slaughter |
Add to all that HAS TO be the cost of good insurance. It is the HEIGHT of irresponsibility to go racing without good insurance. That is why I always say that the real costs of CLUB racing are about $2K per month. |
