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Nofault
Posted on Monday, January 26, 2009 - 12:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looking at getting the 1125R and I am curious as to how well it stacks up against the current line up of sportbikes. R1, 1000RR, GSXR1000 etc.... I have looked up 1/4 mile times and track reviews and read a lot of blah blah blah. I know from experience with my current bikes that the people that ride them can tell you more....
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Mikellyjo
Posted on Monday, January 26, 2009 - 03:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think a question back to you is in order. What are you looking for in a bike?


Will it take on an R1 or gixxer 1000 on the street, probably not. Take'r to the twisties and its a different story. Of course all that is based on your riding experience and lack of judgment.

The true owner of an 1125r is a different breed of rider. One that looks at the bike less as a grudge match but more of a statement. We don't care that little Jimmy just bought the latest import and is attempting to wrap himself around a tree. We see it not only for its power plant but the shear artistic beauty of an American made sport bike. Is the 1125r the bike for you, I don't think anyone on here will tell you yes. And if they do...shame on them. You must search your soul for the reasons behind your consideration of an 1125r...sit on...become one with it...when you can grab the keys out of your dealers hand young grasshopper then the bike is right for your.

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Ccryder
Posted on Monday, January 26, 2009 - 10:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ride one and see for yourself. It all depends on what YOU are looking for in a motorcycle. If 1/4 mile times, big HP numbers are what fires you, don't bother with the 1125r. If you are looking for world class handling and a huge amount of day-in-day-out drive-ability (some pretty great power and torque too) then, give the 1125 more than just a glance.

After 16,000+ miles, I would not have one of the IL4's for any money but, I like the power and handling of the 1125.
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Boogiman1981
Posted on Monday, January 26, 2009 - 11:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i had been wanting a new bike for years. money not really an issue at this point in my life. i saw one pic of the 1125r and well i have one about 25feet behind me right now.
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Bobup
Posted on Monday, January 26, 2009 - 12:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Boogieman...the 1125 should be directly beneath you right now....not chasing after you

(Message edited by bobup on January 26, 2009)

(Message edited by bobup on January 26, 2009)
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Tlrich
Posted on Monday, January 26, 2009 - 12:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

First thing would be for you to check on Insurance rate for bikes you would like to own. Then find out which one puts the biggest smile on your face when you look at. When it comes right down to it, you will never be able to get all (use) the performance out of any "race replica" bike. We are mere mortals (posers)
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Monday, January 26, 2009 - 12:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

IMO all the open class sportbikes are more than 90% plus of riders can handle (excluding a drag race, but any idiot can twist a throttle and shift gears.) Only a small percentage of riders can make use of the extra power of a liter bike.

No one rides a spec sheet (many people buy based on a spec sheet) and I would put the 1125r up against pretty much anything out there for real world riding.

(Message edited by fresnobuell on January 26, 2009)
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Thedavyboy
Posted on Monday, January 26, 2009 - 01:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If your buying a bike for the enjoyment of riding a good handling and reliable bike then the Buell will stack up with the best of them . And it still has decent power !
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Nofault
Posted on Monday, January 26, 2009 - 02:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks very much for th e help..
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Ridenusa4l
Posted on Monday, January 26, 2009 - 05:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

BTW my buddy is a 1.5 years older than me with a clean driving record and his GSXR 600 w/ full coverage is around 2000$ more a year than my 2008 1125r!!!!!! Just a little fyi, plus u'll get WAY more looks with the R: ), and woop some @$$ in the corners...

Jake
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Pariah
Posted on Monday, January 26, 2009 - 05:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You can be faster off the line and out of the corners, than the popular stock liter bikes. Quarter mile is close, too, you might even spank there, as well (or at least be within a bike length or two).

I like the uniqueness of my Buell... most people opt for what's popular, but I feel like I'm riding an important piece of American motorcycling history. I think many Buell owners are the sorts of people who like to do things differently.
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Redscuell
Posted on Monday, January 26, 2009 - 06:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

nofault, I based my decision to buy the 09 R in part based on a comparison of many bikes' power-to-weight ratio, part on their price-to-power-to-weight ratio (don't think about the formulae too hard, it hurts). Using the CBR1000RR as the benchmark for both ratios, the R is right up there with all but the Ducati 1198, which is big bucks.

There are those on this board who have taken exception to my analysing even part of my decision based on such formulae; but I'll have to say that I chose well with the R. If there was any doubt in my mind at first, it was all eliminated when I (a) added the GPR damper for control, (b) removed the inner airbox for sound, (c) neutralised the 'noid for smoothness, (d) accidentally did my first wheelie/mono yesterday.
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Pariah
Posted on Monday, January 26, 2009 - 06:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Today I wheelied, too... on my mountain bike. Handlebars weren't straight when the front touched down and I was tossed over the handlebars. Landed hard on my left side.

Be careful with them wheelies!
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Hayabusa
Posted on Monday, January 26, 2009 - 06:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As someone who has owns an 1125 and has owned a Busa, ZX-6R, Gixxer 6, and an R1 I can give a very fair appraisal of the 1125 vs the other models.
1125 Advantages:
1. The only comfortable sportbike
2. Usable power...no need to flog it
3. Quick transitions
4. Quick out of the turns
5. Predictable power

IL4 Advantages
1. Better brakes...I have read that changing the 1125 pads erases this advantage
2. Sick top end power...you need to get there though...but once you are there look out
3. Little effort is needed at full lean...the 1125 needs some pressure on the clips to hold maximum lean.

Overall, I would give the advantage to the 1125 especially once the brake pads are changed. Now that the problems with the bikes have been addressed via reflash and recall I believe that this is the best street sportbike.

Hope this helps.
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Ccryder
Posted on Monday, January 26, 2009 - 07:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Takis:
We warned you and told you and warned you again and again how those darn 2-wheelerswould eat your lunch if you don't have the experience!! But no,no Takis knows better and guess what???? Just as we predicted you ended up on the ground looking up! LOL

Yeah I remember my first face-plant on my MB, a real RUDE awakening!!! I was lucky ATGATT and it was tall grass that I ended up face down in. Now I know why you really hang your butt off the rear when going down those steep hills!

Glad you are ok, a lot cheaper to repair the MB than the 1125r.

Later
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Pariah
Posted on Monday, January 26, 2009 - 08:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Neil,

It hurts when I laugh, but thanks!!! : )

I figured that I would not attempt a wheelie on the motorbike before I mastered wheelies on a pedal bike.

Well, I've got my answer... no wheelies for me.

Cheers,
Takis
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Mikeyp
Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2009 - 02:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My best bit of advice for you would be to go on a test ride.

Most Buell dealers are more than happy to let you take one out for a spin.

Make your own conclusions from there.

On a side note, Ducati and Triumph also offer test rides. So get as much seat time as you can on the bikes you may be interested in. It's one of the reasons (not to bash Buell here, i own a S1W) that i bought a 2009 Ducati 1198s. I test rode a 1098 and it was what i was looking for in my next bike. The Buell is not "Superbike" enough for me yet. Maybe one day.
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B00stzx3
Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2009 - 04:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As my dad said, "Vehicles have souls. And American vehicle souls are the only ones that speak english"

Get the Buell. Everyone and their mom has a Gixxer1000 or CbR1000. Unless you plan on going 170mph, the by all means get the IL4. I only got a Firebolt though so don't take my advice too seriously.
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Gearhead571
Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2009 - 05:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was also looking into getting an 1125. Just curious as to what i can expect to pay insurance wise. I currently have an 06 Dyna so I'm guessing insurance is quite a bit more on a sport bike.
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Exnorton
Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2009 - 06:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Gearhead I am 53 years old and live in atlanta, and pay $497 a year with Dairyland or whatever it's called now. Seems reasonable to me
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Clarkjw
Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2009 - 06:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As far as chassis, weight, balance, comfort Buell has everyone beat. Everyone.

When it comes to fuel injection, Buell is behind. It's still the most enjoyable and rider friendly power curve I've ever experienced.

Comparing any V-Twins power delivery to IL4's is futile (unless it's the 2009 Yamaha R1). FWIW, Triumph's drive more like a twin than and IL4. Twins are predictable and will get off the line/outta corners faster and more precisely that IL4s. They won't match the top speed, but that may be a good thing!

If you want to scare yourself, go above 150, or have a large aftermarket for stunta replacement parts, go with a Suzuki. If you're a bit more mature and demand reliability, precision and a high top speed, get a CBR.

If you go on trackdays regularly and want the best IL4 2009 bike that you'll never live up to, get the R1. If you like a bit more torque in a sexier package and have $7k more, Ducati 1198.

If you're a hooligan+commuter, don't need a faring and wanna stand out: Triumph Speed Tripple/Ducati Streefighter/1125CR are all fantastic bets.
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Gearhead571
Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2009 - 06:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Ex. I am 24 with a clean record. I'm guessing the age will make a big difference since I am paying about that on a cruiser.
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Cutty72
Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 10:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Gearhead.
26 with a not so clean record, paying 285/year for full coverage w/500 deduct.
Dairyland.
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Ponti1
Posted on Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 07:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

+1 for Dairyland. Got great rates. For me, they quotes the XB12R and 1125R as the "same" bike category, so same rates extended to 1125.
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Sleeper_777
Posted on Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 08:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Depends.

If you want straight line drag racing, the 1125 series is not it, although it is in the range (mid 10's in the 1/4).

If you want the squid look of extending the rear swingarm and and the bling, this ain't the bike.

If you like road/street track style performance, this is the bike (along with the Triumph Triple series).
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Gearhead571
Posted on Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 05:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thats a lot better than what I am paying on my Harley. I feel like i am getting screwed. Thanks for the insight. Also i've never owned a sport bike. I took my buddies cr out for a short ride and it got me hooked. How is the riding position on long rides. Is it comfortable on an all day cruise?

(Message edited by gearhead571 on January 29, 2009)
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Cutty72
Posted on Friday, January 30, 2009 - 12:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The comfort is in the rider.
Some on here have ridden hundreds of miles w/o problems.
It's not bad considering you have to stop every 120-150 miles for gas anyway.
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Dirty_john
Posted on Friday, January 30, 2009 - 02:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

BOOstzx3 - I think you will find that Triumphs speak English as well, after all it is our mother tongue over here in Blighty.

Although I have owned and still owned a cool XB12R, it was a close call between a Speed Triple and the 1125R when it came to adding a new bike, my brothers 955i Daytona is quite close to the 1125R in a lot of respects.
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B00stzx3
Posted on Friday, January 30, 2009 - 01:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dirty, I meant no offense with that post. I had the Japanese/German/Italian bikes in mind with that statement, gotta remeber UK bikes as well. Sorry mate!

Get the 1125R. For comfort, I've heard people say the 1125R is the most comfortable superbike they've ever ridden, but that was at a HD dealer so its biased.
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Jmr1283
Posted on Friday, January 30, 2009 - 07:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i have one point on my license left, one o.u.i. (blew a .11 shit!) and my insurance through dairyland is 800 a year. i think my deductable is 1000. geico (who insures my truck) wouldnt insure me. a couple other companies were like 2-3 grand! so i agree with check ur insurance out first. that might just decide which on u get. fortunatly i was in the process of buying the 1125r when checkin it out, not a cbr1000 or a r1. which i dont want to think what $$ it would be.
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