| Author | Message | ||
     Clarkjw |
http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/576/2347/Motorcycle- Article/New-Öhlins-Buell-1125R-Shock---Fork-Kit.aspx The new Öhlins kit is designed for street riders but a full race version is also available.As a direct result of aggressive street and track testing, Öhlins USA is delighted to announce the availability of its BU 788 TTX rear shock for the new Buell 1125R. This shock features a unique manual adjuster for pre-load, specifically designed for 1125R application. This purpose-built TTX rear shock for the Buell 1125R is of course fully adjustable, and when ordered it is fitted in build and spring rate to the needs of the end user. It is designed for street riders but a full race version is also available from Öhlins USA. For riders looking to get the most that a fine tuned suspension can provide their machine, an Öhlins FGK 25mm front Fork Kit is also available in both a standard production form and a race version. Continuing to answer the needs of all racers in a world as dynamic as a hot lap, more new Race-Only products from Öhlins will be announced soon. | ||
| Marcodesade |
I think the link is broken. Can you try again please? | ||
| Bobup |
http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/576/2347/Motorcycle- Article/New-Ohlins-Buell-1125R-Shock---Fork-Kit.as px | ||
| Firstbuell |
or try this: http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?artic le=35447 | ||
| Ds_tiger |
good luck with ordering them- maybe this is like a teaser, where everyone is wacky and feverishly interested in wanting them, then silence, no part numbers, no availability....I say this because of no mention of it on the Ohlins website as of now. We shall see. I have Ohlins on many products I have (had)- good stuff. sound familiar?- us 1125 folks are to a point "forsaken" for the high volume bikes- oh well! Welcome to being different- & the faithful (speaking for myself) | ||
| Jaimec |
I have Ohlins front and rear on my K1200LT. I just had them rebuilt this year. Yes, they were a helluvalot more expensive when I bought them than BMW OEM shocks... but after this first rebuild (which was surprisingly inexpensive) I figure I got my moneys worth. I'll definitely look into the Ohlins rear shock once my OEM is shot! | ||
| Rainman1ne |
Can we get the steering dampener from them too or do they only sell to the factory on that sort of thing? | ||
| Slaughter |
What you mean "no mention on the Ohlins site?" Ohlins News (click) Ohlins + Latus (click) Get in touch with the Ohlins re-sellers for pricing info... not aware of Ohlins selling direct. (Message edited by slaughter on January 28, 2009) | ||
| Jlnance |
Am I correct in assuming the forks work with the stock ZTL breaking system? | ||
| Rfischer |
I believe the reference to front forks is for an internal kit; springs, valving, etc. This has no effect on the brake system as the fork externals remain the same. | ||
| Trojan |
Nothing new here really. You could have ordered the Ohlins shock months ago through Ohlins themselves. Bitubo have had similar spec fork kits and rear shocks ever since the 1125R launch almost. Traxxion Dynamics will fit a set of their AK20 cartridges to you stock forks, and Maxton/Reactive suspension/KAIS etc will do the setup properly. What would be news is if Buell started fitting decent Ohlins suspension to the 1125 as stock  | ||
| Ds_tiger |
All that is listed on the recommendations list (call down menu) is XB series. No 1125's yet. Regardless- good news and something to add to the list of "wanna haves" for my bike | ||
| Stormy |
If you are ready to put up the money, give them a call, Thermosman (Mike Fitzgerald) is very familiar with Buells, as are the guys at Traxxion Dynamics. All this type of suspension stuff is custom made to order anyway, and it is already available | ||
| Helicon |
Any ideas on how much a suspension set up like this would cost$$$?????? | ||
| Fresnobuell |
What would be news is if Buell started fitting decent Ohlins suspension to the 1125 as stock 2010 1125RR. One can only hope. Upgraded motor. Upgraded suspension. Hell ya. | ||
| Slaughter |
Don't know how popular a $3-$5K premium for suspension would go over - though it'd be cool to see an "off-the-shelf" bike sold with a premium suspension! | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Maybe do a base model with Showa (although Showa's Big Piston Forks are getting some nice reviews) and an "S" model with premium Ohlins suspension? | ||
| Anonymous |
The new Ohlins stuff is very, very, very good, and, contrary to Trojan, you couldn't have bought the shock months ago. It's a new TTX body just available in the last couple of weeks that was designed to fit the 1125. But Showa's race stuff is good as well; in a recent 1125 race test, four top riders went faster and were more comfortable on Showa suspension than with the Ohlins. | ||
| Jaimec |
Are the OEM Showas rebuildable or disposable? | ||
| Court |
>>>What would be news is if Buell started fitting decent Ohlins suspension to the 1125 as stock Just curious to hear from some 1125R owners. The stock shocks are really top of the line stuff and far exceed what most bikes will be exposed to. How many folks would be willing to pay $2,000-$3,000 more for an 1125R with GP grade suspension components. I can only talk for myself, as a street rider and I do not own an 1125R, but I'd be ticked off. Buell has alluded to somewhere on the order of 500 race components for the 1125R. The Ohlins suspension expands the choices available and I, for one, am pleased it's a "choice". | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Besides being oversprung for more than 1/2 the production year 2008, the stock shocks are adequate. I wouldn't go as far as saying top of the line stuff. What I would like to see is a base 1125RR and an "S" model (for lack of a better term and yes, following Ducati's labeling scheme) with upgraded shocks and possibly exhaust. Is there something between the average sportbike shocks (ie Showas) and the premium shocks (ie, Ohlins)? I agree, it would be hard to spend the extra $3k for the Ohlins, but i think alot of us could part with half that to upgrade the suspension.... | ||
| Carbonbigfoot |
As a previous post suggested, that would be an obvious route to follow when putting together an RR model. Juice up the motor to what it is capable of, billy-bad-ass suspension, maybe some more brakes, and there ya go. I think that instead of calling it the 1125RR it should be called something like "Zeus". That would be perfect for keeping in line with the whole mythology thing! | ||
| Court |
>>>I wouldn't go as far as saying top of the line stuff. You're probably right. How about "on par with any other stock suspension made?" What I'm saying is that putting the Ohlins, on a bike you intend to mass market, would be akin to putting PCCB on a Smart car and adding $10,000 to the price. I'd be interested to see how many folks would spend $1,500 to upgrade a suspension. I base my thinking on how few, of the many, many Buells I see, that have Penske, Ohlins and other upgraded shocks. The suspension on my Ulysses, as an example, is no Ohlins and would never work for someone on the track but it is PERFECT for my intended application. I may put an Ohlins on it but it won't be the first money I spend on the bike. Put yourself, as you ponder this, in the position of a product planner building a sales forecast. How many 1125R's can you sell at $10,000? How many at $15,000? The elasticity of demand is not linear and get's quite challenging, in the world of motorcycling, as the $9,999.00 point is eclipsed. | ||
| Reepicheep |
No, they should use Ohlins. I asked an instructor at Mid Ohio about the Ducati's that come stock with Ohlins. He said the Ohlins are better, because when you pull them off and sell them to some sucker that doesn't know any better for his stree bike, you can get more money for them. Still not enough to get a proper suspension tuned for your bike, weight, tires, riding style, and track, but every bit of $$ helps. (I paraphrased a little, but thats basically what the guy said... that any streetbike suspension is not going to be good enough, and that you will need a custom race suspension. You will be replacing or dramatically reworking whatever the bike comes with). | ||
| Fresnobuell |
How about "on par with any other stock suspension made?" I would definitely agree with that, although the Showa Big Piston Fork seems to be all the rage now. I am certainly not a Buell number cruncher, just an enthusiast expressing what he would like to see regarding future BMC product(s). I would like to see the RR model come in at $12K price point (possibly just limit it to a engine upgrade from what we are all riding now. I would like to see a premium RR model come in at $15K, with the aforementioned goodies (suspension, exhuast.) I would think support of would be similar between the models as the mechanical bits would be identical, save exhaust-related issues. Uh-oh, that brings us back to fueling. Hopefully BMC has learned its lessons with the original 1125r OR let Rotax handle it this time. | ||
| Jaimec |
No one answered my question: Is the stock Showa rebuildable, or is it disposable? Just curious, not trying to make any kind of a point here... I thought the greatest thing about the Ohlins on my K1200LT was that I DIDN'T have to spend another $3,500 on shocks when they wore out. Just about $200 to have the existing ones rebuilt. I realize MOST sportbike owners don't hang on to their bikes long enough for that to be a money-saving proposition, but my K1200LT, at 123,000 miles, is a bike I'll have long enough that it WILL make a difference. | ||
| Jlnance |
I'd be interested to see how many folks would spend $1,500 to upgrade a suspension. No way no how. But then again, I don't race. | ||
| Chevycummins |
I know you can get valves and parts for the stock 47mm Showa, there are also drop in cartridges for them. I looked into it because mine have a really loud clunk in them that is bothering me. Check out http://www.race-tech.com/ I would be happy with mine if I could get the noise resolved under warranty. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
No way no how. But then again, I don't race I don't think you have to be a racer to enjoy a better suspension. Track day addicts and aggressive riders in general could probably benefit from upgraded suspension. I have heard from knowledgeable folks (here and otherwise) state better suspension will make you go faster than more power (in the twisty bits.) Besides, I would think that an upgraded suspension would be offered something other than the "base" model. If we want to play on the upgraded components, we will have to pay. |
