| Author | Message | ||
     Chevycummins |
I was just at the dealer Saturday to see how they are doing with the repairs on the bike and it is all done. They told me that they also did the most recent flash, they said it was a new one that came out. Anybody know anything about it? | ||
| Teach |
Hmn. Think we would have heard about it from a number of sources....  | ||
| Funktron |
I'm with you Chevy on this one... I had a horrible loss of power while going down the freeway about a week ago. The bike felt like I hit the rev limiter but it was happening at 4k - 4.5k rpm. Scared the $hit outta me. I was also having a newly developed hot start issue (like pre-flash v3) On the way in, I noticed my rear signals stopped working and that my cluster was getting rubbed by the throttle cable (wore an actual groove into it). So dealership calls and says the power loss was probably due to my intake solenoid and exhaust (D&D). Cluster on order. Hot start issue "fixed with latest software update". When I pick up the bike (when this rain stops), I'll be sure to post the software version to compare to v3. | ||
| Jerseyguy |
Funk - Did you de-noid the bike? If not then that's the problem. I had it happen to me on the racetrack. Very disconcerting. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Funk--I second the notion that your power loss was due to the solenoid. Your description of the power loss and RPM range match the symptoms exactly. | ||
| Funktron |
ah...I put the Buell part in place of the solenoid. I installed roughly 2k miles ago and have not had a single problem until now. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
hmmm..shoots that idea in the foot. Figured if the dealer suggested the solenoid as a possible cause, it must still be present. | ||
| Funktron |
yeah...they said that because i put the resistor in there...that it, along with my pipe, was the reasoning for the running condition. If there has been any problem listed on badweb for the 1125r......I've had it. I had numerous hot restart issues. I've been told software was the problem, not running the bike long enough before shutting it off could be a problem, etc. I also was told that when riding, I should ride a minimum of 1 hour or the charging system would not charge the battery adequately. | ||
| Badlionsfan |
I had numerous hot restart issues. I've been told software was the problem, not running the bike long enough before shutting it off could be a problem, etc. I also was told that when riding, I should ride a minimum of 1 hour or the charging system would not charge the battery adequately. Do you use a battery tender? It's true that the charging systems on most bikes are barely adequate, and if you haven't been using a tender the abuse the battery took before the 1st re-flash that addressed charging issues may have compromised it. If your not using a tender, start. If you've been using a tender, I'd try a new battery and see what happens. | ||
| Funktron |
I have NOT used a battery tender. The ride leading up to the dead battery issue was over 100 miles. The bike was parked for no more than 40 hours. Came back and it was registering less than 9 volts. I have on numerous other occasions ridden for less mileage and had the bike sitting much longer without the voltage issue. This particular issue was a single occurrence. I put the battery on a charger and ran the bike as normal. It has worked fine ever since. I know I've read about people utilizing a tender....typically in inclement weather areas. I live in San Diego...had a couple cold nights...but generally warmer than 50F even throughout the night. | ||
| Badlionsfan |
I personally use a tender all the time, all riding season long and of course in winter storage. IMO it's inexpensive battery insurance. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Funk, the battery itself MIGHT be the culprit. I had my second dead battery episode a couple months back. The service dept. said it was due to a bad battery, which they replaced under warranty. In the back of my mind, I wonder if something helped the battery go bad. But everything has been great since the battery swap, so I have to go with the idea that it indeed was a bad battery only. Apparently, a battery going bad with mess with quite a few things on our beloved bikes. | ||
| Funktron |
I absolutely agree that adequate voltage is key (I'm an EE by education and trade). Service dept tested the battery and the charging system and determined all to be good. I asked them to keep it an additional day to test for any parasitic draw while the bike was shut off and to also check any/all fuses. They found nothing. So apparently it was a freak occurrence. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
I thought my instrument cluster might have been a parasitic draw as it has been documented as a possibility. Keep this in mind. | ||
| Krassh |
Hot start issue started happening for me last time I rode it. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Slow Hot starting for me too. It has never not started, but it turns over for up to 5 seconds before it fires up. A little annoying but nothing major. | ||
| Bpt |
I have had the 4th flash installed. Can't tell any real difference at this point. There is a new bulletin for the cluster on production bikes up to May 2008. Depending on the date and software numbers on the cluster it may have to be replaced. The issue is a draw on the battery because of the security system. Also addresses the low fuel light coming on whenever it wants, no matter how much fuel you have. | ||
| Adoogie3 |
I was told by a buell tech on the phone the reason they also changed the first flash to a second flash was the because fan speed and intervals was to much for the battery so they changed it. And they also bumped the rpms up 200 rpm so it would charge more.The third flash is what was changed fuel mapwise. Just some info id thought id throw in here.No 4th flash ready yet. | ||
| Slypiranna |
Thanks for the info Bpt! FWIW, Mine is a Dec 07 build and only two times have I ever had a low or dead battery. Once, right after the 3rd flash (never could explain that one) and once recently, when she sat out in 20'F weather overnight. Never have I used a tender in 11 months of taking delivery and don't plan on starting now. I've also left her sit, unattended for 10 day plus periods. With the exception of the above two cases, never a battery or electrical issue. It should also be noted that I never touch the security system. Perhaps just another case of a bad lot of build groups...and thus, the reason for the bulletin? It would be nice to understand if anything other than the gauge and fuel light are all that is inclusive in this flash? It would seem to me that both are in the gauge and/or sensing unit, not the ecu's parameters? | ||
| Bpt |
From what I can gather it is in the software of the cluster not the ECM. You have to look at the label on the back of the cluster to get the software version. You cannot reprogram the cluster, only the ECM. It is definitely an intermittent problem. My battery never died but has been low on occasion. | ||
| Jerseyguy |
This makes little sense but I had dead battery problem until I made absolutely certain that I hit the kill button first and then turned off the key. | ||
| Eweaver |
I have been having battery charging issues. My dealership had me go in last week to have my instrument cluster inspected to see if it fell under a new bulletin. It does, and a new instrument cluster is on order for me. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Does anyone have a visual of this IC bulletin? I would like to see it. Also, Eric are you getting an '08 or '09 cluster for your replacement? | ||
| Edmbueller |
sorry guys, I was on HD net all day and have not seen any mention of a new flash... | ||
| Eweaver |
Harlan, they didn't know for sure if it would be an '08 or an '09. They said it most likely would be the latest one. I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt. If it does happen to be an '08 cluster, I'll say something about it then. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. (Message edited by eweaver on December 15, 2008) | ||
| Slypiranna |
Eweaver, Whats so special about the 09 cluster other than gear indicator and lap timer? From those that have posted having the change, it comes with mixed/locked out, reviews? | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Lap timer is available on the '08 too. I have mixed feelings about the gear indicator honestly--I am not sure I trust myself enough to not become dependent on it. Also, I consider the revised info layout on the '09 inferior to the '08. | ||
| Hooliagn |
I do recall reading somewhere that Buell changed the stator in the 2009 motors to deal with the battery charging issues. | ||
| Eweaver |
Sly, I think the gear indicator is the only new feature. Since I haven't seen the layout of the '09, maybe I shouldn't be so hopeful. I do think the gear indicator would be a nice feature. I remember some grumblings about the new cluster not readily showing coolant temp, but I don't spend a lot of time looking at that screen anyway. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
I believe that the cluster flashes COLD as opposed to the blinking CT as the CT approaches 150 degrees. Bad. Please correct me if I am wrong. Also, it splits up AT and CT and makes some funky combos. I can't recall, but it's bad too. |
