| Author | Message | ||
     Jpfive |
Has anybody sourced front brake pads for the 1125 other than the Buell racing pads? SBS has pads, available through Trojan, and Lyndall, through American Sport Bike, but I have not seen any others. The Buell racing pads are quite pricey, but I understand that they were the pads used on the Inside Pass bikes. I don't like the feel of the stockers, or the pulsing. Anybody have a line on an alternative pad? Jack | ||
| Jotrevza |
Hi Jack, (don't ever say that around the TSA, they'll throw you in jail!)  Yeah, I just finished buying a set to have around for a "rainy day". I don't have the part number handy, but, can get it for you if you need it??? They're EBC's newest HH series racing compound that was just released. They're $50.00 +/-. I bought mine through a friend that owns Victory Lane Motorsports. If you like, You can get with him through Ebay. His "handle" is: VLM194 and his name is Tom. He tries to to keep stuff in stock, rather than have it drop shipped, which I REALLY like! He's a good guy to do biz with, and is expanding his line for all Buells all the time. He just started offering new billet alum. master cylinder covers, and is working on new "Pegasus" covers as well. Give him a shout..... Stay safe, Tracy | ||
| Slypiranna |
I've been thinking of the EBC race pads...on ebay they are under $60.00 shipped for the front end. Item number 320275692264 I've heard from a few other 11 owners that the race pads make all the difference on this bike. So much so that a radial master isn't all that ness'y. Also have heard to remove the springs behind the rotor and to refinish the rotor surface with the brake "hone" from http://www.americansportbike.com/shoponline/ccp0-p rodshow/16055.html These are on my never ending to do list sometime in the near future!  mm | ||
| Jpfive |
Thanks for the good info, guys! | ||
| Spectrum |
Here's the EBC part number EPFA454/4HH and their website for EX Pro Series pads. http://www.ebcbrakes.com/exprobrakes.html | ||
| Alans |
I bought the EBC pads, eBay. The primary difference I've noted so far, in about 200 miles, is that the EBC pads are not as abrupt in their application of braking force. They seem more linear with respect to lever force. As a side benefit, when I installed the EBCs, and bled the system afterward, the lever is now quite a good deal less spongy, with noticeable braking occurring earlier in the lever travel. I assume there was air in the line when I took delivery. As stated, the price was less than $60, shipped. (Message edited by alans on August 09, 2008) | ||
| Jpfive |
Thanks again, guys. I ordered the EBC pads from Victory Lane's ebay listing. Looking forward to dropping them in. Jack | ||
| Jotrevza |
Hey Bryan, Yep, that's the number! I went out in the garage earlier with the intent to pass it along to Jack. I haven't installed mine yet, but, (IMHO) EBC has ALWAYS made good brake pads! My old Hayabusa REALLY benefited from a set of HH pads in particular. A very linear and progressive feel hits it on the nail-head! I would highly recommend them to anyone, and, for any application...... Take it easy, Tracy | ||
| Jotrevza |
Hey Jack, You just beat me to the post! Glad you were able to get a set...... For the rest of you guys, be sure to check in with Tom @ Victory Lane Motorsports. He can be a good source too, including working with guys on the west coast who race the 11, and who develop some of the latest aftermarket stuff. Take care, Tracy | ||
| Ezblast |
Any numbers for Galfer pads yet? EZ | ||
| Palerider |
Any Ferodo #'s yet? | ||
| Donutclub |
I highly recommend the EBC racing pads. They are more linear and require less force to apply. I had to adjust my lever throw after the installing the EBC pads because it required less force at the lever. Again, I highly recommend them. | ||
| Sruzhyo |
Any updates Jack? Were you always experiencing the pulsing? I did for awhile and someone mentioned a couple hard braking cycles from speed to really slow will help clear that up, as apparently the rotor builds up residue. I did it, and no more pulsing from the stock pads | ||
| Jpfive |
The EBC's are in and bedding - about 50 miles on them. I will report on them at about 200 miles. Initial feel is better - more bite at application - and they seem more progressive. I'm curious how much the lever feel will soften as they bed - the lever feel is much better than stock at present. Jack | ||
| Fresnobuell |
JP--Did you bleed the brakes when you changed pads? My lever has been spongy from the beginning...just wondering. | ||
| Jpfive |
The lines have been bled - or should I say line. My first impression of the EBC's is good. But, new pads are like new tires - always an improvement over the old ones. As soon as this little tropical storm clears the area I will get some miles on the pads and give a better road test. | ||
| Jpfive |
I think I have enough miles to give an opinion on the EBC pads. IMO they are an improvement over the stockers, at least for a rider that is going to use them hard. My OEM pads worked fine at first, but then began to lose their initial bite and become grabby as you continued to squeeze. So far, the EBC's give a good bit on initial application, and have a nice progressive feel as you increase pressure. The ZTL2 system feels even stronger as a result - and lifts the rear very quickly. The one thing that they have not cured is the pulsing at slow speeds. You can see heat marks on my rotor from the OEM pads, even after scuffing them. I don't know if that is due to some wierd harmonic, or because of high spots on the disk itself. At any rate, the EBC pads give you feedback from these spots as you come to a stop. I have been looking to upgrade the rotor anyway, so have ordered the wave disk from Trojan. I hope it gets here in time for my trip the mountains next month! Jack | ||
| Spectrum |
Just put on a set of the EBC HH pads. What a dramatic improvement. I've only got about 80 miles on them thus far, so still not bedded in yet. Much better initial bit and oh so much more progressive feel. Will have to wait and see how they do once there bedded in, but I expect they will only improve once fully seated. Anybody got a part number for the EBC HH rear pads? | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Where are those that have the EBC front pads picking them up? Mine are probably due for a change soon? | ||
| Spectrum |
Got mine here for $80. The 1125R part number is not on there website, so just give them a call. http://www.nationalcyclesupply.net/ | ||
| P_squared |
Picked mine up from the Yamaha dealer that's next door to my office. $72 after taxes. You'll probably be able to find a better deal online somewhere though. | ||
| Spectrum |
I now have about 400 miles on the EBC HH pads. Had a bit of a problem getting them to properly bed in so I thought I'd report my experience. First off these are really hard pads and bedding in on used rotors can be problematic. My first attempt at bedding involved typical bedding exercises such has a series (10-15) moderate speed snubs allowing about 10 seconds of cooling in between snubs. Followed by a series of high speed snubs using the same process. When I got to the high speed snubs I aborted the process because I had a high speed braking vibration that I assume was rotor pickup. So I took the wheels of and re-scuffed the rotors using a very fine grain sand paper. I'd highly recommend honing the rotors when switching to these pads. My second attempt at bedding I took a different approach. Basically brake as lightly as possible for the first 200 miles. After the first 200 miles and the pads are mated well to the rotors then do the hard braking snubs to finish the bedding in process. I now have about about 400 miles on the new pads and am very pleased with the improved feel. The second attempt at bedding worked much better and braking is smooth as silk. | ||
| Jpfive |
Thanks for the great follow up, spectrum. I had a similar result with mine. The pulsing that I had been experiencing seemed to go way after installing the EBC's, but came right back as the pads bedded in. The better, progressive feel and the increase in bite and stopping power is legitimate though. I think that you are correct on the honing suggestion, though a more thorough scuffing might have worked for me. I think that the pulsing is an issue with the disc. Rather than pursue the issue through warranty, I have chosen to replace mine with the wave rotor that Trojan sells. ALTH puts some extra effort into the hardening of the steel in their discs, and I feel that this will prove to solve the pulsing problem on my bike. So far, so good with about 200 miles on the disc. I will report back if that changes. Jack | ||
| Chevycummins |
Anybody ever seen a cryogenic frozen rotor for motorcycles? We started to use them for our police vehicles and it turned a crappy brake system into an excellent braking car. The rotors don't seem to warp anymore and the brake feel is better. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Are these HH pads detrimental to the rotor? Do they wear or warp a rotor more than stock pads? | ||
| Spectrum |
Fresno, Only time will tell. We were put onto the EBC HH Pads because of another post that suggested one or more Buell racers are using them. At a minimum I would think they will cause more rotor wear because the are a very hard pads compared to stock. | ||
| P_squared |
Had the EBC HH pads on my bike at Inside Pass this week. MAJOR difference, for the better, versus the stock pads I ran on that track last month. +1 on the "go easy" for the first 200 miles and then start hitting them hard to complete the bedding. | ||
| Pyrateryderzmc |
When the rear pads were done, they told me to just break them in...no honing necessary. If I drop these EBC's in, would I need to attend to the rotor surface in any way (ie; honing, break in period, etc.) ? Thanks... | ||
| Spectrum |
I would highly recommend honing the rotor to insure proper bedding in, but at minimum scuff the rotor with a fine grit sand paper. Again also very light breaking for the first 200 miles then a series of hard snubs at speed allowing at least 10 seconds between for cool down. | ||
| Xnoahx |
Bringing this thread up, would the EBC or Lyndall be a better choice to the Buell Racing pads? | ||
| D_adams |
What's the difference between the EPFA454/4HH and the FA454/4HH pads besides roughly $30-40? Are they worth it for street use only? I've used the standard HH pads on a SV650 and they were extremely good. I just found the (standard?) HH pads as low as $38 but average around $55 and the epHH pads are about $85-100. |
