| Author | Message | ||
     Doerman |
Yes.. me too, watching with interest. This might become as much fun as when Steve made his UlyBolt  | ||
| Baggermike |
Just curios, I think I will measure the sub frames of both bikes to see if the ulysses rear sub frame is swappable with the 1125R's. I am not sure and is a guess but I think they uses the same sub frame as the XBR to make the 1125R. I would not want to do this to my bike and think the givi bags that Neil has is the best for this bike but I would like to know just out of curiosity. | ||
| Two_buells |
XBR AND 1125R rear subs are way different. battery and shock location  | ||
| Two_buells |
just thinking. It would be real easy for Buell to make a saddle bag bracket to fit on the 1125R, give the drawing to Givi to make and than sell a kit using the Givi v35 bags. than again it would take a year of testing to pass and prove the design. oh well just thinking. As for making a bracket work on the 1125R. The Bottom Front would go the the footpeg. The Bottom rear would go the the bracket on the other side. For the top mounts I'd like to have a clamp that would go around the bottom square tube of the rear sub frame and have a tab with a hole hanging off that clamp going through a hole in the plastic of the bottom tail to the top mount. does that make sense? I want to make it so I do not have to weld the rear sub frame. | ||
| Baggermike |
Thanks Two Buells you saved me time, I thought they were the same but had a different lower bottom pan, but a picture is worse a thousand words and now I can see that it could not work. | ||
| Ccryder |
Michael, Mike: My mounting concept for the racks is as follows: Use a 1" square tube (~24" long) mounted to the top rear passenger peg bracket and to a tube running across the chassis under the tailsection to the 6mm bolt into the tail (I may need to add 2 more bolts for support). From this 1" square tube I would weld two supports to the top corners of the mounting bracket from Givi. Depending on their relative location they would share both vertical and lateral support. One more support would go to the passenger footpeg support bracket from the lower front corner of the mounting bracket (vertical loading) and one would go to a loop inside the fender (for horizontal/ lateral loads) over to the other mounting bracket. This loop could also be welded to the 1" tube for vertical load bearing. I don't want to modify the inner fender to pass mounting tabs to the tailsection frame. I'm trying to make the install as pain-free and modification-free as possible. I figure each side has to support 60#'s static loading ~180#'s dynamic loading (just rough numbers) without deformation. These are just my SWAG. The most difficult loading to resist, is from the bike falling over. This system will deflect but, a swift nudge should move everything back into place. All of the above is based on a little one-on-one time last night with my 1125r sitting on a stool contemplating how to mount something that I have never seen in person. The upside is my goodies are shipping today and should be in my sweaty little hands on Thursday!  (Note to all: this is just my mindless meanderings that take place in an engineer's mind) Time4Lunch Neil S. | ||
| Xl1200r |
Neil - You've done better than me. I usually start thinking about this whole thing and get so worked up about it that I have to go outside my office to the parking lot that instant to look at the bike and figure things out, lol. | ||
| Ccryder |
It's the old elephant story. How do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time  Heck I was more worried about finding some small square steel tube. Lowes has 3/4" and 1" maybe even bigger. Later | ||
| Baggermike |
Hey Neil sounds good, I think you are doing what I was thinking but I was going to weld the one inch square tubing to a flat bar that would go between the bikes sub frame and foot peg mounts then run it right under the plastic tail section, I took an XBR license frame mount and made spacers to go through the metal plate I made to fit inside the space for tools to cover up the hole that was left after removing the stock tail light assembly, there are two bolts there to hold on the license plate mount and ties everything together. I would like to be able to draw what I am thinking it is hard to explain something when a picture would do it all. I have a few idea's but I am not sure if I will have the money yet to do it, My priority is to get a good snell helmet, racing leathers, and go to race school in the beginning of June, they have a two day course and that is five hundred right there, also my grandmother needs me she just got out of a nursing home and needs me to be around so touring is something that is going to have to wait. I keep thinking about being T-BONED on the ulysses and how the hard bags saved my leg from being broken, that alone makes me want hard bags on this bike. I will wait to see what you come up with and how it looks and then go from there. Also I am thinking that going to race school in june might be to soon, I still have a half inch chicken strip on my tires and want to be really used to this bike so when I go I will get the most out of it, or maybe I would be picking up bad habits and going in june would be good to avoid bad habits. I think I think to much. Mike | ||
| Daddyhog |
I rode my S3T out to the dealership for a test ride on the 1125 today. After signing my life away, leaving DNA and promising my next male grandchild, I was ready to ride. First impression is that the bike is tall, taller than my S3 and taller than my 68” body needs. Next the riding position is tucked, a little to tucked for my 64 year old body. Started the engine and boy does it sound odd. Not like anything I have heard before, certainly not like any Harley. First thing I noticed after getting on the road was it doesn’t run like any Harley or Buell I have ever ridden. It is a rocket ship on two wheels, pulling strong in any gear. Got on the Interstate and immediately noticed noise. The engine has a unique whine and highway speeds are at very high rpm’s. 70 miles per hour was almost 5,000 rpm in 5th gear. Passing a truck the speedometer quickly swept past 120 mph and the rocket ship was still pulling strong. Handling and breaking appeared similar to my Buell, and far exceeds my riding skills. Overall the bike is a sound, but expensive, sport bike and would be a great toy for curves and hills. But a geezerglide to replace my Road King is next on my shopping list. | ||
| Ccryder |
Johnny: Add the V35 bags, "s" pegs, the convertabars and your 1/2 way to goodness and comfort of the S3T. BTW did I mention I put 26,000 miles on my 99' S3T in 14 months. Welcome to the continum. Neil S. | ||
| Ccryder |
Their here, their here!!!!!! But they sent the wrong darn bracket!!!!! It's not even for the V35 bags :+{. New bracket S/B here Tuesday. They are pretty bags and seem very well made. Picts to follow of the mock up. Neil S. | ||
| Ccryder |
The correct PLX brackets are in. I mounted the bags on the brackets and they seem VERY secure. Givi does make some really nice mounts, I'll have to go far to live up to their standards. They do give me some good ideas. Guess I'll start with the grinder tonight removing their mounts. I took some picts last night to see the relative size of the bags and their location. It was dark out and black bags on a black and blue bike just don't show up too well. I'll shoot some more after work in the daylight. IMHO they are gonna be REAL nice functionally and compliment the style of the 1125r. BTW, anybody got a spare skyhook, I could sure use one for mock-up. ;+} | ||
| Ccryder |
Picts:        What do you all think? Time 2 send them back? Neil S. | ||
| Two_buells |
WOW! they are BIG! Can you keep the stock turn signals? I want a set! maybe when my stimulus check comes...... | ||
| Spectrum |
Neil that looks awesome. I'm very interested in how you workout the mounting brackets. I think I would angle them down in the front ever so slightly. Just my opinion, but I feel they would flow better with the natural lines of the bike. | ||
| Ccryder |
Two_Buells, thanks for noticing, uh you mean the Givi's ;+}. I still think their proportions are pretty good for the 25r. Spectrum, bungee mounting is not an exact science, depending on the phase of the moon and the ozone they can change drastically LOL. I agree with a slight forward slope. I'll have to remove the turnsignals and then get my bungees aligned and take some real close measurements. After that it's sparks to go! Later, time to dream. | ||
| Gtmg |
Ccryder that looks great. I wish the brackets were made that would be a really nice setup. I really have to wonder what Buell will release this year. Supposedly two new models based on the frame maker. Have to assume a naked bike is one of them. The other????? | ||
| Brad1445 |
CC, I love it! Very good looking bags. Evens out the bike perfectly. | ||
| Xl1200r |
What's wrong with just using the bungee cords? I see no need to build any more of a mounting infrastructure. I'm starting mine this weekend - hopefully finishing as well. Should be fun! | ||
| Ccryder |
Who has done the left-right swap of the passenger footpeg mounts? What was your pillion's comments after the swap? Thx Neil S. | ||
| Xl1200r |
I just played with that in MS Paint and it looks to give a lot more leg room... riding on the back is gonna suck anyways, so I'd be more concerned with clearnace. | ||
| Ccryder |
What/ where is your clearance concern? I'll have my SO try it out both ways and give me her educated ergonomic guess. She knows what the ST feels like and has some preconceived notions what the 25r may feel like. | ||
| Xl1200r |
On my 12R, swapping the passenger pegs looks like they'd be really close to the swingarm. I tried it this past weekend while I was mocking things up, but it turned out that I was able to mount the bags high enough where it wasn't a concern. BTW - my peice is all done, just have to rassemble it since it got painted. I'll post some pics probably tonight or tomorrow. The design of it should transfer right to the 1125 as well. You make any progress on yours? | ||
| Ccryder |
Does it count that I'm cleaning up the garage? LOL If I kick out the Wife's NEW Civic then I would have PLENTY of room but, that would not be great idea. This weekend will give me plenty of time to play. For now I have enough room to sit and drool, er I mean study what I'm gonna do. I'm still thinking about adding the square steel tube along side the tailsection to give me a place to mount. Besides the weight, it will be convienent for mounting. Time2Work | ||
| Xl1200r |
Neil, do you need to be able to ride a passenger with the bags on the bike? | ||
| Ccryder |
Yes I need to keep that option open, even though it is very unlikely I'll have a passenger. I have spoiled my Wife on the ST1300, it's my own fault. But how can I argue, she loves riding on the ST. I'm working my way into her taking some rides on the 1125r but, ride one has yet to happen. She got me the custom pillion seat for my birthday (I told her it was for my backrest to keep me from moving). At Home Coming we are bringing both bikes. I need to break her in on the 1125r before then for some short trips around. Time2Ride Neil S. | ||
| Bigblock |
I have found, having ridden with 3 different passengers on my 1125, that proper passenger technique is KEY to both of your riding comfort. It helps to have a quality, securely fastened tank bag, that your passenger can brace against when their arms are around you, so as to keep their weight from pressing against you, especially under decelleration. This, not only greatly aiding the driver, also is key to prolonging the ability of your passenger to tolerate the back seat of your 11 for extended periods of time. Meaning: more than 20 minutes! | ||
| Blazin_buell |
CC , those pics look great!!! I like those bags, even match the 2 tone of the pods. The pic from the front looks like they only stick out past the pods 2-3". I can't wait to see ya'lls finished pics. | ||
| Ccryder |
Shane: That was my thought going with the 2 tone black. The gloss area is actually replaceable. If I ever could get a match in paint for the frame color......... I was also surprised at the minimal extension of the bags past the pods and fairing. They even may nest a little closer w/o the bungees ;+}. Tomorrow is tire change time:  Neil S. |
