| Author | Message | ||
     Ccryder |
Jpfive: Stop that reading my mind business, I was thinking the same thing when Del started down the "Duc" route ( that mind reading stuff is only allowed by my SO! ). Maybe it is urban legend/ myth but, from my experiences and conversations with other Ducati riders, they all claim that their rides required a lot of TLC and owner/ dealer care to keep them running at a reasonable level of performance and reliability. Just my observation, etc. Neil S.. | ||
| Court |
>>>I think Glendale has dibs on it. That'd work out well. There may be someway to short cut the COV disposal process. That's how I got one of my S2's . . . HD bought it back, a Red CA bike, and sold it to me for $1 rather than ship it back. I never had one iota of problem with it. | ||
| Xl1200r |
I am constantly allured to owning a Ducati - the 848 just touches me in all the right places - but I'm put off by the "high-maintenance" mumbo jumbo that I hear from everyone. I don't think it's as bas everyone says, but I don't doubt it's a lot more than what I've been accustomed to from owning an XB. | ||
| Jpfive |
Exactly right, Doerman. He is in love with the Duc, but not the 1125 - hence the 'divorce'. We should all try to buy the one we love. I did. Jack | ||
| Jrmsr51 |
I've calmly read all the posts regarding Interex2050 issues with his 1125R. I just fail to come to the same sympathetic conclusions that some people have come up with: Interex2050, you have done nothing but complain about all the problems YOUR bike has but you fail to note one important fact. Your not interested in fixing the problems with 1125R! Your first line of defense in this entire issue is to yell "lemon law", why is that? You don't have a case for it! Especially, since you've not allowed Buell or your dealer the necessary time to solve the so called problems with the engine alone. You are one of a very small minority that has even experienced this type of problem. Could it just possibly be you had cold feet with your purchase and just maybe your looking for an out. Why not replace the motor, this seems to be the only component that is troublesome with your entire package and just sell the motorcycle. What you have done is come into this forum with a one sided complaint and try to publicly gain support for your PERSONAL issues with YOUR bike, something which may or may not be OWNER INDUCED. Your dissatisfaction with "YOUR 1125R" for what ever reason, does not mirror with others here. You've publicly admitted that you are defaulting on your term loan which "YOU" agreed to complete.  Which makes "YOU" a bad credit risk! No one twisted your arm to make the purchase or sign the loan agreement. If you think that you could possibly hold a large financial institution hostage by refusing to pay back monies which you agreed to accept,(in writing no less) and complain on a public forum, because you believe that Buell has given you a raw deal, your naive and have far bigger issues then a broken motorcycle. They will write you off like they do hundreds of thousands of bad credit risks every year and who suffers, you no one else! Do you honestly think we care that your not making your payments as agreed?!!!! We have only heard YOUR particular side of the story and there are always two. There are reasons for your problems, but I don't think that the forum is hearing the entire story behind them. You've showed some pretty paltry evidence of them to this forum. Additionally, and in defense, you've showed little evidence of what Buell or your servicing dealers is doing to solve those problems. You showed a few photos of the intake which obviously has corrosion on the butterfly's and around the valve area. Looks like a condensation problem but why just yours, no one else has experienced it? Hmmmmmm, makes a person wonder. Water in the fuel possibly, water in the intake from washing with high pressure and letting the bike sit for a few days!? Just as you are being allowed to whine about your problems, so we should be allowed to refute them, especially since your evidence is slim to none. I loath whiners who have no more time then to attempt to cast wrong doing of others but always fail to show their own wrong doing, which either caused or contributed to the problem to begin with. I've seen allot of unnecessary sympathy shown for you here and for YOUR perceived 1125R problems, sympathy which I will reserve for a situation which well deserving of it. If you believe that your actually serving a purpose here with your complaints and whining, then so be it, but know that not all of us subscribe to it. If you have problems then take it up with the dealer and the manufacturer, they will solve them adequately if they are of any salt. If they don't, then get yourself a lawyer and take it to court but that's a personal matter which is kept personal and has no place on a public forum. Even a damn lawyer would advise you this. You've made no positive effort to advise anyone on this forum of the progress of repairs or causes, why is that! Last thing, you obviously like to tinker with bikes, as per your Ducati input to the thread and photos posted. I begin to wonder how much tinkering you've done with the Buell which might have induced some of or possibly all of the existing problems? Your obviously not a trained mechanic! Frankly, the Ducati is sorely lacking in it's serviceability, quality, and overall appeal, especially with it's current stripped down 1098 version, which is produced for sales alone and is a direct competitor to the 1125R. I've owned many a Ducati and countless others since 1965. Ducati's quality has suffered over the past 10 years, due to corporate corner/cost cutting for sale of numbers. Their mirrors simply put suck. The Ducati Dealer in Albuquerque had the demo models mirrors taped, and I personally saw a salesman break one off on a new 1098R by trying to adjust it, right in front of me. They are noisy, the clutch is about the worst in the industry and service intervals and costs are unacceptable. The photos you offered attest to just a few of the problems and this is another story. Then again this is a Buell Forum for the 1125R owners not a Ducati owners. Most of us here have probably looked at the purchase of a Ducati 1098 but opted for the Buell because it offers more performance for the dollar. It actually feels and is of much higher quality to the recent offering of Ducati. It's solid, well built, robust and has an individual distinction of carrying the name of "Buell", which is an American Company. I recently traded off a BMW R1200S with an Akrapovic TI system and low miles, and it won't hold a candle to the performance advantage of the Buell 1125R. Surely, there are some teething problems with any new untried motorcycle and most of us understand this when buying a first year motorcycle look at any motorcycle forum on the net. Never-the-less we are more interested in finding solutions then throwing in the towel before a solution has been found. Yes, you have a right to spout off about how bad YOUR Buell 1125R is, but it shows a certain lack of creditability on your part, especially without hearing both sides of the story!! I've yet to see similar problems on other 1125R's, which, makes me even more suspicious of your claims and motives. (Message edited by jrmsr51 on April 26, 2008) | ||
| Slaughter |
Actually, Glendale DID buy it. Ernie is sorting it out and it is going to be Glendale's demo bike - and NO, it's NOT going to become a race bike. When we do monthly group rides, be sure to ask Ernie if you can try out the shop's bike. | ||
| Smokescreen |
Frankly, the Ducati is sorely lacking in it's serviceability, quality, and overall appeal, especially with it's current stripped down 1098 version, which is produced for sales alone and is a direct competitor to the 1125R. Are you serious??  At least when I ride my 996 to the Ducshop, they know what a 996 is and have the means to readily fix my bike. And for cost factor, "eh, why are you so poor?"  Smokescreen | ||
| Jrmsr51 |
Hence the name "Smokescreen",  You can blow smoke up some novices arse but I've owned em for more years than you been alive! Monies not the factor, just cost to operate one. Why put so much in service cost when you can put it elsewhere! Duh! By the way, I'm a qualified Ducati Service Technician! OOPs (Message edited by JRMSR51 on April 26, 2008) | ||
| Jpfive |
Well put Jrmsr - it was past time to be said. Jack | ||
| Smokescreen |
Really? Then how much would you do my valve service for then?  Which Ducati's did you own? Were they liquid-cooled 4 valves? If they are so crappy, you got any you'd want to sell cheap then?  Our cheapest tech here at the shop is looking for a 916/996. Just like with Buell's, there is a lot you can do yourself without the expense. Other then that, I take it to the shop I trust. Why put so much in service cost when you can put it elsewhere! Where like go fast billet or carbon parts? Oh, that's right, my bike came from the factory with them.  Smokescreen | ||
| Jrmsr51 |
You couldn't afford it with your present salary!   Hey, maybe you could do it yourself?  No Ducati comes with carbon parts except for the 1098RR, 999R, Desmosedici. Carbon parts are offered through Ducati Parts/Accessories  (Message edited by jrmsr51 on April 26, 2008) | ||
| Smokescreen |
You forgot about the S models. You sure know a lot about Ducati's for sure!  Smokescreen | ||
| Brad1445 |
Frankly, the Ducati is sorely lacking in it's serviceability, quality, and overall appeal, especially with it's current stripped down 1098 version, which is produced for sales alone and is a direct competitor to the 1125R. What a bunch of crap! Did you cut down others in school to make yourself feel better too? If some one says they don't care for the styling etc. thats just an opinion, but to just make up crap about reliability only makes you look stupid as that stuff is facts. The year is now 2008, not 1998 or 1988. Both Ducati's and Buells are way better in quality than ever before. Both have small issues so be careful when throwing reliability and serviceability stones. Now go check your oil it will give you time to cool down. | ||
| Ducxl |
The guy's a newbie and a troll. | ||
| Smokescreen |
The guy's a newbie and a troll. I thought he was a Ducati technician!  Hey Ducxl, Got any recent pics of that badass 996 of yours? Smokescreen | ||
| Jrmsr51 |
So because you register in 2005 this makes you the expert. Following most of your posts over the past couple of years, you sure do like to hear yourself talk. Bradley no, but I didn't swallow everything as gospel that was thrown at me either. It's obvious that your about as qualified as Interex2050. He's been slinging around one sided unjustifiable complaints about the 1125R. Ducxl, to bad I guess tapped a little nerve now didn't I. Obviously, by your logon you have a biased opinion about Ducati's. Only difference is I've worked on them for 20 years or so and know the reoccurring problems they continue to have. Service cost are high and so are parts that's the bottom line. Ducati in a effort to attract a higher sales has produced a lower priced 1098 to attract middle of the road buyers. In the process it has downgraded it components with cheaper production based materials, which have caused problems with functional reliability. Ducati now claims longer service intervals, but in truth Ducati economically has realized, if they are going to compete for their lion share of the motorcycle market they need to change there service practices and costs, to attract the number of buyers they needed to meet bottom line costs. You can't sell a 1098R that costs $19,000.00+ and charge an average service cost of $500.00 per service and expect to sell numbers. They need numbers to remain viable today. It's simple economics. So now you sell a stripped down 1098 for around $13,000.00, stretch out the service intervals and charge an average of $300.00 per service. Less of a product, with inferior parts compared to it's predecessor. The 999R is essentially the same motorcycle as the 1098R with the same costs for service and it does have certain reliability problems. For example: Public Knowledge A statement issued by the firm said: “There are currently two safety recalls for the 1098 which are being dealt with under usual Department of Transport guidelines. The first recall concerns the cam belt pulley tensioners which were found to not be within specified tolerances during the early production of the bike. The second recall is for the fuel pipe clips which are checked for proper installation. As per Ducati. There are specific stalling issues with the 1098 and Ducati can't verify how many it actually has effected. This is a small case in point and I can provide allot more information of known some unknown. Some hidden recalls were completed by the dealer during the initial services of several model bikes without the knowledge of the owners. Problem is, with most forums like this one, the one's, who for the most part post on a regular basis are treated as if they really know what they're talking about. In truth they know little So, if someone disagrees from the status quo, your a troll and a newbie at best. Funny thing is, being here for any length of time doesn't make you or anyone else an authority or anymore knowledgeable. That comes from hands on education and years of application. Something neither of you have. I don't go along to get along. You can swallow all the crap Interex2050 has been slinging about in this thread about the 1125R, but there are those of us that have been around racing and mechanical side motorcycling for more than 30 years that can see through a BS "smokescreen," when we see it. (Message edited by jrmsr51 on April 26, 2008) | ||
| Brad1445 |
Jrmsr51 , what a bunch of crap. There are so many things wrong with your statements. If you were what you say you are you would not even use some terminology the way you do. Go take your meds. Asata | ||
| Bearly |
I'll ride with you Jeffrey (Message edited by bearly on April 26, 2008) | ||
| Jrmsr51 |
Yea Bradley, I'd expect that kind of remark out of someone with your higher education!  What, is that all you can come up with, you seem to be repeating yourself. (Message edited by jrmsr51 on April 26, 2008) | ||
| Ducxl |
What, is that all you can come up with, THe proof is in the pudding..Right there's a troll. Hey,i've DISMANTLED my 996 AT LEAST four times now.It AIN'T rocket science. You come here,now,for a month or so and talk a lot of sh&T for a new guy.Show some respect.Interex went through a lot of trouble for a NEW bike. BIAS??? ME??? I'm certifiably a BUELLER,FIRST and FOREMOST,have two of them in the garage.'99 and '05 Buells'. THe '00 Duc came,well,between the Buells'. Smokescreen,my supertuned Duc runs,well,super.What fun it was machining my new pistons to fit. | ||
| Ducxl |
You can't sell a 1098R that costs $19,000.00+ 1098R???? $19000???? try doubling that cost for the REAL sales cost. Yeah....R-I-G-H-T....Ducat tech | ||
| Ustorque |
jrmsr51...i've followed interex's problem since the beginning and he has shown nothing but class from the day he picked it up, till the day he let it go. others have had problems with their 1125's and have been relentless shitslingers but never has interex,and for you to come on as a troll and accuse him of causing his problems shows what kind of guy you are! as far as not making his payment(come one peter you know better)it could have been an honest mistake. and if he likess his new duc good for him, the 1125 wasn't his first buell and probably won't be his last. go show off you incredible intelligence somewhere else  | ||
| Jrmsr51 |
Ducxl, I knew that you were a moron when you opened your mouth the first time. A 1098RR is double the price of a 1098R is $19,000.00 moron. Want to open your mouth and insert your foot again? | ||
| Brad1445 |
Bearly Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 07:33 pm: I'll ride with you Jeffrey - Begin theme from Brokeback Mountain - } | ||
| Xl1200r |
Jrmsr51, I would tread lightly if you want to stick around here for any length of time. ...and because I can't refuse a cheap shot, you're kind of a jackass and you clearly don't know a thing about whatever it is you're trying to talk about. The only Ducati Superbike model I'm aware of that costs $13,000 is the 848. | ||
| Brad1445 |
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| Xl1200r |
...and there's no such thing as a 1098RR. *edit: thanks brad... you beat me to it. (Message edited by xl1200r on April 26, 2008) | ||
| Ducxl |
A 1098RR is double the price of a 1098R Bwaaaa-ha-ha-ha!!!!! OOooh! My side hurts,that's funny!!! | ||
| Slaughter |
I'm afraid I ought to chime in here. Just not sure HOW Jeff has determined that Peter was anything but respectful unlike MANY others on this board. Frustrated, certainly; disrespectful or derogatory, no - not considering what he went through. Nobody has to feel that they need to defend Buells on this board but Peter went through the system, worked through channels and couldn't get his situation resolved to his satisfaction in any other way. Everybody may have played it differently but it was plain to see that he was trying to get it done right for a couple months before the bike was bought back. Yeah, he did express frustration - most recently on the financial issues - who wouldn't? Peter's a good guy, we'll be looking forward to seeing him on our So CA track days on his Duck and XB. | ||
| Ustorque |
+1000 slaughter |
