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Nickcaro
Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 07:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

WoW What a huge difference.
I Installed my HID low beams last Saturday and did not want to post until I had time to also post up some pictures. Sadly I was unable to photo document my install due to a separation with my equipment last weekend.

Check out the link for some pics. The difference in exposure is due to shutter speed.

The first few are me standing level of to the side.
The second set is me squating down on my knees in front and the high beams are on.
The last set is my buddy Jim (a.k.a SkidPlate) and they show how tight the beam pattern is.

http://nick-caro.com/1125r/hid/

Words alone can't describe how amazing they are. The reflectors are good enough to cut the beam so although I have an explosion of light, it does not kill car drivers, no one is flashing me and I rarely hit the high beams. When I pull up behind other cars, the beams cut off right below people's heads.


I'm so happy with them!!



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Baggermike
Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 08:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hi Nick what temp did you get, I just got mine yesterday and got the 8500 digital ones, I almost went higher for more bluer look but I liked the way it lights up objects that are more natural looking,

I am thinking of installing them after they go over my bike but might not be able to wait,

I am still waiting for my led tail light.

Mike
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Strmvt
Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 08:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ya what temp did you get I'm going to get the 6k temp when I order mine
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Baggermike
Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 08:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Did you get blue leds for the side lights? I was looking at your pictures and looks good,

I got a 2 pairs of supper bright leds amber and blue,

I got amber for turn but do not like them so I probably use the blue ones,

I was told they are made to go with the hid lights,

I will see what it looks like then judge,

I was hoping to turn the running lights into turn signals,

I want led if I can and the ones I got are bright but at a strait angle.

Mike
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Nickcaro
Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 08:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The driving lights are these:
model name = WLED-WHP and they are available over at; http://www.superbrightleds.com/mini-wedge.html

The color temp on the HID kit is 4300K, I prefer that temp and personally would not go above 5K. They are a little more classy, less attention from the police, less glare and really close to what the human eye believes to be "true light"... professional photography studio strobes range in the 4300 - 5400 range.

I know that anytime we start talking HID temps we get a nice debate rolling. So go ahead folks, let it roll.
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Baggermike
Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 09:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was thinking of going up so that it would be less light but bluer light, I think it stands out more in the sea of headlights.

I put the 8500 on the ulysses and high beam was really bright and would only use it when no one was around.

on one of the website showed the view of the road and you could click on it to see what it looked like and I thought the 8500 looked the best,

but everyone is different,

I will check out those led lights, but for turn signals it has to be all around light for the reflectors,

I will take pictures when done.

Mike
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Ccryder
Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 09:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looking very good! Who did you buy those from and which bulb base, H8 or H11?

The 4300-5000 bulbs produce the greatest light output. Probably around 2800-3000cdl. As you increase the color temp you reduce the light output. Once you get to 8000 you are down to 2000-2200cdl. IMHO more light is always better. The blue'r light stands out a little more but IMHO is not worth the reduction in light output when you need it.

My ST1300 has 5000cdl capsules and they light up the night. I'll be getting 4300-5000 HIDs for my 25r. I already have H11, 55 watt bulbs for my high beams. I have a set of PIAA 1100X for driving lights.

I WILL SEE, I WILL LIGHT THE NIGHT!!

ST1300

Time2Dream
Neil S.
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Baggermike
Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 09:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey guys any hid bulbs are brighter than halogen bulbs,

I just got done reading what this website said and the compared the 12000k hid which is purple is 2700 lm and a 55 watt halogen is 700 lm so even the 12000k is 300% brighter, I am just reporting what I read.

does anyone know of a led bulb that would work as a turn signal in the running light socket.

Mike
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Nickcaro
Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 09:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

you can get the H11 kit and then just use a Dremmel to shave off a tiny piece. You'll see it once you compare an H8 and the H11.
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Baggermike
Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 10:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey guys a couple of things to think about is that H11 bulbs are 55 watts that 40 extra watts your using with high beams,

also they are hotter and could melt the plastic.

Just something to think about.

Mike
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Ccryder
Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 10:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mike:
Since you only run your high beams very seldom how do the 8500 make you stand out??? Just having HIDs in the 4300-5000 range sets you apart from 90% of the vehicle around. The 25-30% more light from the 4300-5000 lights sets you more apart than the color, IMHO. When you REALLY need your high beams that extra light makes a BIG difference!

Yes something to think about but,
A) Even during the day when I'm running my high beams I keep the rpm's up.
B)I keep the bike moving for more cooling.

Wasting light output is a terrible thing to do ;+}

Later
Neil
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Strmvt
Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 10:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

good lord ccryder got enough lights on that thing?
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Baggermike
Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 11:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Neil I want to run my high beams in the day time,

I rigged the ulysses so I could have both on at the same time,

there also the 8000k lights I got from aerostich,

I also got digital this time and suppose to be a 15% increase of light,

I think they are to bright as it is on the ulysses I can see street signs light up down the road in the day time,

and at night I have to be careful not to blind anyone,

I have had piaa 1100 lights and they do not come close as to the light output of hid,

I read 6500 is the best but I wanted less light and a blue tint makes the bike stand out in the daytime as well as night time,

also makes it easy for me to see my son behind me because of the blue tint I can see he is behind me at night with all the other lights looking yellow.

on my bagger that I sold I had the piaa 1100 on the engine guards and hid light,

I found out if I shut off the piaa's I could see further down the road, I use a few tricks at night

one is to dim the dash lights,

tilt my mirrors down so I do not get car lights in my eyes,

and you eyes open up more and can see further,

I will go into a cemetery's and adjust my lights and is real good because no lights are in cemetery's and one is right behind me,

Now when I install these I will do the same and also rig a switch so I can chose not to have low beams on at night depending on the riding.

Mike
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Brad1445
Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 11:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Those look great!
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Ccryder
Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 11:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mike:
You confuse me with you posts. Run what you feel is best for you. Based on 80,000+ miles, I'll run what I think is best for me.

NEVER have enough light, well maybe not never ;+}.

Time4Sleep
Neil S.
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Baggermike
Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2008 - 12:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Neil I confuse my self,

I want to run my high beams in the daytime and when the bike gets fixed I will be running them in the day time,

digital hid are suppose to be 15% brighter so I can see between the ulysses and the 1125 if that is true,

I have ridden the highway with the ulysses and there is a beg difference in light and you have to be careful with its high beam or I could blind someone and that is something I do not want to do.

I like that amp, I have bought a few and was dissapointed in its performance, plus my garmin is hard to work the volume, thanks for the link

I also got to get better headphones the ones I have are from cyclegadgets and are good but bother my ears after awhile so I am thinking of ear molds with duel drivers,

I like music as much as bikes and woman so when I ride I have the music cranked up but need a woman.

I have a tumor in my inner ear and will block my hearing so I blast the music when I can.

I want to say I am sorry that I confuse you guys it is hard for me to put my thoughts down and that is what happens from one to many head injuries.

Mike
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Wademan
Posted on Monday, March 10, 2008 - 07:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

BaggerMike... you crack me up dude!
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Baggermike
Posted on Tuesday, March 18, 2008 - 06:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

WOW just got done installing four hid bulbs two digital kits from star rotors,

very quick to full light output and brighter than the ulysses non digital hid bulbs and both the same 8000k,

plus got all 4 bulbs for the price of just the one on the ulysses,

that is a good deal,

if anyone is thinking of adding four hid bulbs than you need to get the digital ones there is not allot of space to work in,

now I got to finish the install and go for a ride.
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Nickcaro
Posted on Tuesday, March 18, 2008 - 06:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

maybe in a few years we will be installing these on our bikes. True Plasma Bulbs
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Baggermike
Posted on Tuesday, March 18, 2008 - 07:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

very impressive 140 lumens from one watt,

now I got to figure out how many lumens does my light put out and divide it by 35 watts,

we need the most lumens per watt,

that bulb was awesome.

Mike
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Zac4mac
Posted on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 - 08:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, just dropped a dime on the 6K HIDs from bestdubs.
Just low-beams, but H11s.
Cheap, big saddlebags will be here next Monday.
Will leave on Texas trip mid-week after the bags get here and I install the HIDs.
I don't want to hit any deer or turkeys going down thru the Panhandle.

Zack
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Nickcaro
Posted on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 - 12:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

zack,
you will love the HIDs.
Have your Dremmel ready as you will see a very small minor shaving needed on the HID capsule base in order for it to go in properly. Just compare the two bases and it will be obvious.
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Baggermike
Posted on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 - 12:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Zack why did you get H11 bulbs they are the same watts as H8 bulbs and would have been easy to install.

anyway I think the bottom of the fairing right below the lights is a good mounting position,

I took the lights and fairing and laid it in blankets to do the install, I had four boxes and was a challenge to get all the wires right and mounted in the right places,

you are going to love them.

Mike
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Ccryder
Posted on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 - 01:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Z:

The big tab needs to be ground down to about 0.300" wide versus the stock width of 0.390". 45secs with a Dremmel, just protect the capsule from dirt, oil and fingerprints.


BTW, if you want to borrow my 1st gear bags for your trip their yours.

Neil S.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 - 02:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks, Neil.
Mine shipped from NY yesterday.
Should be here Monday, no ETA yet for the HIDs.

After I get back, I'll be getting Americanmadexb's Amber wheels.
I like how they look on Bearly's bike, but I have some other tricks in mind too.

Hope they put all the 1125s together for the parade at Homecoming.
No_rice's oughtta be at the front.

Z
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Ccryder
Posted on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 - 03:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

With that orange crush paint it will STAND out!

I think there are some others with painting plans but, I may change some windshield or airbox colors. Farkles are in my future, more function than sparkle.

Later
Neil
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Baggermike
Posted on Thursday, March 20, 2008 - 08:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I went to the cematery tonight to test the bikes lights that I installed which were hid both low and high,

the low beams but to much light out in front of the bike that it will hamper seeing far down the road,

I had a bagger with all the lights and only when I turned them all off could I see far down the road with my solo hid light,

I will be installing a switch so I can shut off the low beams on those dark lonely roads.

Mike
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Ccryder
Posted on Saturday, March 22, 2008 - 01:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

xenonrider kit:

HIDkitH8


H8Tabs


Neil S.
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Baggermike
Posted on Saturday, March 22, 2008 - 03:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Neil they look just like the digital kits I got from www.starrotors.com I got two kits low and high and now have to switch off low beams if I use the high beams for two reasons one to conserve power and two is that the lows throw to much light in front of the bike that will make it harder to see long distances,

I found this out with my bagger with spot lights, I shut them off one night on a dark lonely highway and wow I could see far,

even cars I like to dim the dash to a I can hardly see it and My eyes adjust and can see further,

I also tilt me mirrors down so I have to look lower to see cars this keeps the car headlights from hitting me in the eyes which also will keep me from seeing far.

I think I ruined my eye's welding, I need allot of light to see,

what is funny is I use to ride around looking for a dark place to adjust my headlights and it dawned on me I have a cemitary right behind me and they do not lock the gates,

so I can go in there and have total darkness to see and adjust my lights.

Mike
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Zac4mac
Posted on Tuesday, March 25, 2008 - 11:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just hooked up one of the HIDs.
Didn't get the tiny "digital" ballasts, but it will fit in the fairing.
The difference is stunning, Hi-beams really look wimpy now.
Will finish installing tomorrow, trip soon!

Z
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