| Author | Message | ||
     Doerman |
Hi Peter, No criticism intend towards you, you know that, right? I was pointing out that the lemon law is a difficult road to go so maybe it would be best to give it one more go. I understand where you're at so the choices are yours and fully respected by me. Everybody has a "that's it" moment and you have passed that point. So do what you need to do and let's ride again soon! Cheers Asbjorn | ||
| Sheridan_bueller |
"...$370/month for insurance." Ouch, that's gotta hurt! More than I pay for a year. JJ | ||
| Interex2050 |
Scott, Thanks for backing me up... I have looked at the Japanese alternatives, sadly there aren't that many. Although the SV1000 is cheap and should be reliable. I4s just don't cut it for me in Los Angeles traffic. Asbjorn, No worries, we definitely need to ride once the "dust settles". And I won't immediately jump into the Lemon Law... But it may give me the extra leverage that may be required for Buell to get me a refund... If not it is a good fall back. Johnny, Yup, a bit steep isn't it... That is why selling the firebolt was a critical part of my plan, the sooner I paid the 1125 off the sooner my insurance will drop to $14/month. Best, Peter P.S. I may be doing a demo ride on the 1098 very soon, maybe tomorrow! | ||
| Krassh |
Let us know how the demo on 1098 goes, was actually thinking of it at one time but never took a test ride. | ||
| Baggermike |
I think the lemon law is not going to replace your bike but it will give you money back for time and agrervation, I sent my papers today I have had it with buell. I have bought three new buells and have had problems with all three. I have a used Blast that is only suppose to have 6000 miles on it and it is a rat so either I was lied to about the mileage or it is a poorly built bike. I told them that the ulysses oil pump broke did not listen to me and took for mid october to december to get it back and was still not right. I have had enough problems to wreck my fall and winter, now spring it coming and I do not know what to do. it is the last year I will get to ride with my son and then he is off to college so he will have a life of his own. the worst part is customer service told me they would call me back and did not. it is really harley because I always get the we can only do what harley says we can B S. Mike | ||
| Interex2050 |
Ken, I will let you know as soon as I can. Mike, I have no intension of getting a replacement 1125R, even if they fix it I do not want it... I do intend to see $5533.30 and the absence of an 1125R. Which would financially put me close to where I started before the 1125R... I just have a general distrust of it, in a couple of years maybe. Best, Peter | ||
| Krassh |
If you end up with the Ducati, I would like to get together and ride with you and Asbjorn sometime. Ken | ||
| Interex2050 |
No matter what I end up with we should definitely need to go riding... Haven't had the chance to do so in a long time. | ||
| Krassh |
With your schedule and unfortunate luck with your last 2 bikes I can see why. Asbjorn invited me to the SCAB ride last week, he ended up not making it but I had a great time getting closer to break in on the bike. I live up in the San Bernardino mountains so anytime your up here when you get your 2 wheeled situation settled or I will head out to your neck of the woods. | ||
| Interex2050 |
Sounds like good jolly fun... I think there will be a break between this and upcoming quarter, so I think there will be time for some fun... I just hope this is all resolved before then. | ||
| Court |
Peter: I feel for you, have enjoyed talking to you through this process and share your frustration at the lack of information, communication and any meaningful response. I'd be challenged to show your patience. I'm sorry for the outcome but pleased to have had the opportunity to visit with you. Court | ||
| Tpoppa |
Peter, If I was in your shoes, I would be doing the same thing. This was an opportunity for Buell to demonstrate world class service to support the 1125r rollout...and they did not. | ||
| Eddie |
Try putting a small round spot mirror at the end of your mirror. It works great and really helps. | ||
| Interex2050 |
Well I have a deposit down on a 1098... I am in love! I really appreciate all the support everyone has offered, thank you. Court, you have kept me sane throughout this extravaganza... It was great to finally speak to you. If you are ever in town let me know... Thank you. Well once Monday comes, I hope Buell pays me quickly... If they want to fight it, I will have to postpone my 1098 purchase and buy an SV I found for $3k to get around. | ||
| Luvthemtorts |
As mentioned, the guy I know who lemon lawed his Buell sailed through the process. Appeared the company was very cordial and accomodating and took less than a month once the wheels were put into motion. Hopefully you will get the same treatment. Best of luck with the new Duc (hey that rhymes  ). | ||
| Snackbar64 |
Interex2050, What happened to buying the 848? I have heard that the front brakes on the 1098 are almost too aggressive for street use. On another note: many people will chime in and say that the bike is great and that they are having no problems. They may also say that this is a poor indicator of buell reliability. While this may be true, there is no excuse for the problems with your brand new bike and Buell's failure to make things right (give you another one eventually, if not right away). But it seems that even with another brand new bike out of the crate, the dealers are still not knowledgeable on how to trouble shoot on these things. The Ducati embodies everything that is wrong with the 1125. Visually, it scores big because it has a full fairing. That may be enough for someone to go over to the Duc. The dealer here in Dallas sells only Ducs and can tend to your bike's needs. Everyone's an enthusiast and that means a lot when those mechanically inclined people have their hands on your bike. It is worth whatever the cost difference is to the Buell. Just not to have to walk into a Harley Dealership to order a part you know they don't have is worth the extra 3 grand, or so. | ||
| Court |
Peter: Thanks for your kind comments. I wish I had more to do with the process than playing a "just trust me" role. I am led to believe that there is much more going on than I am aware of. To me and the dealers and owners I have spoken to that secret is better kept than the submarine launch codes. I hope by the time dealers get the service manual that things have improved. Court | ||
| Doerman |
It is worth whatever the cost difference is to the Buell. Just not to have to walk into a Harley Dealership to order a part you know they don't have is worth the extra 3 grand, or so. Depends very much on the dealer. Mine is a delight to work with. Besides. Anything you want for a Buell can be had at a reasonable price from our sponsors. You're on only a website/phone call and 2-3 days wait for the USP away from a part, farkle, upgrade, bit, nit,chrome, carbon fiber, stud, lug, .... or anything else you can imagine fro your Buell. | ||
| Brad1445 |
Having a bike with problems is not the issue. Having a bike with problems that seem they are going un-addressed, now thats a problem. Problems can make you look like a hero or a zero, it's all how you handle them. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
It is worth whatever the cost difference is to the Buell. Just not to have to walk into a Harley Dealership to order a part you know they don't have is worth the extra 3 grand, or so. It's 4 grand plus sales tax if you are referring to the 1098. You must have alot of disposible income} cause that's is a huge price difference IMO. | ||
| Brad1445 |
Jealous Fresno? That comment sounds like someone that would key a BMW's in a parking lot? From my experience, when you ride a Ducati superbike, price becomes irrelevant. They could increase their prices and they would still sell. There is a magic about these machines. The fact that they are sexy as all hell is only frosting on the cake that is almost an overwhelming combination. That is not bashing Buells, I love my Buells, but the Ducati is worth every penny and more. Some things you can not put a price on. The smile a Ducati delivers is one of them. - priceless - | ||
| Court |
(Message edited by court on March 08, 2008) | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Right...and Buells never deliver a smile. Pulease. I like the looks of the 1098, but no way in hell would I spend the extra dough to get one. There are plenty of reasons to buy the 1125r and price is only one consideration. I can think of plenty of things I could do with the extra $4,500 bucks in my pocket. Oh, I assure you I get all the attention on my 1125r as any 1098 out there. Not I that I pay much attention (really, I could do without the extra conversations at the gas pump), but for some people that is a factor. | ||
| Brad1445 |
O Buells deliver bucket loads of smiles. Thats why I keep coming back for more. By Far the best bang for the buck. | ||
| Court |
>>>O Buells deliver bucket loads of smiles. No doubt about it and one of the reasons that folks who could buy a $45,000 F-1 without blinking an eye are fascinated with Buells. I'm fine with the Buell part of the equation. | ||
| Interex2050 |
Luvthemtorts, I am hoping that Buell will come to their senses and refunds the 1125R without having to resort to the Lemon Law, as a month is a bit long... We shall see on monday. Lucky-Duc_ie I like it! Brandon, As for the 848... the moment I headed out on the 1098 I knew we are meant for one another. The 1098 is far more talkative, she tells me what she likes and doesn't like. She is mad and always ready to play Shes a wild snarling beastie, she demands respect But if given the respect she rewards you with pure joy Personally I thought the brakes were fantastic, they have a much better initial bite and more umph while at the same time they are very delicate. I also preferred the handling of the 1098... There is much more communication and involvement Which makes the experience just that much more engaging I must agree with those that know that the 1125R is a fantastic motorcycle and I am happy that they are enjoying theirs I just want to take a break from Buell for a while, for instance at this point just the thought of owning an 1125 makes me... well nauseous The looks or "coolness" of a motorcycle has never really played a big part in my purchases. Although in this case looks are certainly a big bonus. The dealership experience is much nicer too, although Glendale (same dealer as Abjorn) has treated me extremely well, but everyone is on the same page and all share the same devotion and care. That alone is priceless. Court, I am really curious what is in the works over at Buell, only time will tell. Once the Service Manual is out, I think will drastically change for the better. Asbjorn, That is one thing that concerns me, but again its a dealer thing as well. Pro-Italia has a large inventory, although the prices are well... "interesting" But I think it will be worth it. Brad, Your absolutely right! Harlan, Brad is right about the experience being priceless, the Ducatis invoke feelings that money really should not be able to buy. Actually the reason I got the firebolt is because it gave me a certain feeling, I could not stop smiling for weeks after I first rode one. So its not to say that Buells don't provide a similar joy, but at this point after having so many issues over the past few years the Ducati seems more rational. I never thought that I would say that Especially that the 5 year warranty will only set me back $700ish... Actually the attention is a downside. I was delightfully surprised to find out that it is cheaper to insure the 1098... Who would have guessed? Best, Peter P.S. That SV has been haunting my thoughts though Its so damn cheap! And there would be no emotional attachment, if it breaks I would not care. I would just get rid of it... Not to mention I would be able to finally afford A proper mill and lathe... But then again I have no emotion or passion for it... And everyone I have spoke to forbade me from even considering that SV. They tell me that I NEED the Ducati, because every time I talk about it there a sparkle in my eyes which they have not seen in a long time (Message edited by interex2050 on March 08, 2008) | ||
| Jerry_haughton |
...the moment I headed out on the 1098 I knew we are meant for one another. The 1098 is far more talkative, she tells me what she likes and doesn't like. She is mad and always ready to play Shes a wild snarling beastie, she demands respect But if given the respect she rewards you with pure joy i think this is the first time i've posted on an 1125R thread. Peter, damn that's some nice imagery.  Ferris | ||
| Interex2050 |
Thank you | ||
| Interex2050 |
I need some advice... I have been having second thoughts about getting the 1098. The primary driving force of these second thoughts is guilt... Most people who get this machine either intend to use it for racing, its intended purpose, or have lusted over having a Ducati for years and save up to buy one... I am pretty darn sure that I am not capable of using the 1098 to its full potential furthermore I will be using it primarily for commuting, of all things I have such a great respect for Ducati, and all that they stand for Their heritage, and passion And as a "baby" Mechanical Engineer I consider it a true mechanical masterpiece Something with soul and heart I am just wondering if I am worthy of owning such a fantastic motorcycle, just because I found it to be such an magical machine to ride. I have discussed this at length with a lot of people, and they tell me that they cannot think of anything else that would suit my fancy... or make me feel the way the 1098 did. Yet I find myself laying in bed at night with a heavy heart, feeling bad for the Ducati which I may soon own. Best, Peter | ||
| Alans |
The risk here is that the Ducati will come to despise you. Not for your short-comings...but for your fear of your short-comings. |
