| Author | Message | ||
     Interex2050 |
Mike, As an interesting experiment you can try to find the balance point (situation 2)... Although the tricky bit will be starting the motorcycle in such a case... With the bike running and all your gear connected measure the current flowing in/out of the battery... And adjust the temperature setting on your gear until the current in/out of the battery is 0. I am not sure how fancy heated gear is; whether is just simply regulates the current or stays at a fixed temperature. If it is a fixed temperature this will be trickier... Best, Peter | ||
| Baggermike |
the heated gear does not have a thermastat but I can buy one, I would need it riding the other bikes, but on the 1125 it would not be needed unless I have a problem, I then I would buy a duel temp regulator, I have read that some do not shut off the power and use the same current no matter what setting it is on so I have to make sure that the one I buy will not do this. I am hoping it is something wrong with the bike and then it can be fixed at no cost to me and then I will be all set, if not I will have to send the stator and rotor out to be rewired. I found out it is a ktm system and when searching for ktm products I found a company that will rework the stator and rotor, but I need the workshop manual to remove and install the stator and rotor. I am going to call today to see if they can get me one and if my bike is ready. Mike | ||
| Jackbequick |
"..I have read that some do not shut off the power and use the same current no matter what setting it is on so I have to make sure that the one I buy will not do this..." Read the "It Ain't No Rheostat!" FAQ here and it explains it all: http://www.warmnsafe.com/heat-troller_FAQ.php#1 That is one of the more popular ones, I've no experience with it personally but will probably own one sooner or later. Jack | ||
| Baggermike |
Thanks for the link Jack. Mike | ||
| Reepicheep |
I think there is a problem, and that when they fix it, you will probably be good to go. At worst, you may have an excuse to put in a HID kit to buy yourself a few extra watt margin (which would look really cool on an 1125 anyway). | ||
| Baggermike |
Reepicheep I am getting hid lights but they are the same watts as the h8 bulbs that the 1125R has, but the low and high beams are on when you switch to high beam, I hooked up my sons ulysses with hids and had a switch to have both on in the daytime and I orderd a led running lights and led tail light so that will give me a few extra watts, but would like to run on highs and lows during the day, so I can get buy with less watts jacket liner mine is 90 watts and my son wants it and I can get a 60 or 67 watt jacket liner so that would save some juice to, I think that when touring I would not need to use the liners in the daytime so I could ride with the 4 h8 bulbs on and at night I will put a switch to have the choice of running the high and low seprertly and if I have a good set of gloves I will not need the heated ones, so if there is nothing wrong with the bike or battery then I have a few options and 1 is to just use the jacket liner that has less watts when I tour, 2 is send the stator and rotor out to be rewired and 3 is use my buell blast in the winter when it is real cold it has no problem with heating the gear. I just got saddlebags and they are small so a heated jacket liner cut down the amount of gear I have to take with me, and I have a small tank bag and a rear tail bag that looks cool and matches the saddlebags will post pictures when I get it done. Mike | ||
| Interex2050 |
I am now wondering if the charging system is "intelligent"... That is if it sends out all the excess current to charge the battery (which could potentially result in a very upset battery) or if it has a limiter... Baggermike you are right, a service manual is a must... I am very curious to see the wiring diagram. | ||
| Rubberdown |
What's the verdict on the engine issue Interex2050? | ||
| Interex2050 |
Well I gave my dealer a call yesterday... Did not get much info back, they are still working with the factory to sort things out. I will keep you guys posted as soon as I found out more. | ||
| Interex2050 |
I just thought of something, is it possible that the valve clearance is too small/virtually non-existent? So the valves do not properly seat thus allowing blow-back... On the other hand it is strange that all four intake valves are like that... Hmm... Or the dust/sand that has been getting past the air filter has eroded the valve seat and thus is not sealing properly? Aside from personal hypothesizing no news. (Message edited by interex2050 on February 15, 2008) | ||
| Baggermike |
Two weeks in the shop now and still they do not know how to get it running, this sucks I want to ride, and today was a nice day to ride. Mike | ||
| Hughlysses |
Interex, if the valves were set too tight (too little clearance), you'd have low compression and the valves would get burned/warped really quickly. When they don't seat properly the hot exhaust gases will cut grooves into the seats just like an acetylene torch. I don't think you'd have all those metal particles that showed in your photos. | ||
| Interex2050 |
Mike, I know your pain all too well... My firebolt was in the shop for three months before I bought the 1125R, funny thing is that the firebolt is now running like a champ (and there was only one instance of pinging)... Too bad I already committed to sell it, and the buyer is anxiously awaiting the transaction. Hugh, Thank you very much for the insight. I did not even think about that. Although I am not sure if those are metal particles or carbon deposits. Although from what I remember, it looked more like carbon. Today, I "pushed" some "buttons" that I did not want to resort to. I am just getting desperate... I asked the dealership from which I had bought it; that if within a week I don't get some sort of resolution, if they would be able to simply replace it for me. If that is is not possible, I think I may be in the market for a different motorcycle. But it is late and perhaps I am not thinking rationally... Although I NEED a dependable mode of transport...? Afterall how am I to pay for a vehicle that doesn't get me to work. oh poo I am just bitching again... Well good night. | ||
| Zac4mac |
Hang in there Peter. Hard to tell from "flat" pictures, but do you think maybe yours was overfilled with oil? A combination of oil in the airbox and a not-too-well-inserted-airfilter could have let sand in to give what you see. If you sucked sand into the engine, maybe a replacement might be a good idea. I remember living in San Diego and doing top-ends and oil changes on my Sporty every 1000 miles because of salt and sand. Were you one of the ones that had "no power" from your 1125? Yes, I see you are. Mine started hard for the first few hundred miles. 1800 miles now, starts fine hot/warm/cold/frigid. Mirrors, meh, BMC needs a better vendor, either they fix it or I will. it's just a mirror. All my early codes cleared themselves last week, I have no codes stored now. I cooked my rear brake early on. Put her on the rear-stand, ran her in-gear up to 40-50 mph and dragged the brake a while. As it cooked in, you could feel the brakes get effective. The back brake has no problem locking if I push hard. I use my rear brake a lot in the Winter here, sand and gravel you know. As far as electrics, that's still up in the air. All my riding so far, has been short rides in cool weather or long rides in cold weather. My Shovelhead's on the Tender since Tuesday, last rode the 1125 on Wednesday and today(Saturday) I'll check voltage prior to riding. Wednesday was the warmest weather here yet, got up to 72˚, but I only got about 60 miles all day. Zack | ||
| Zac4mac |
After posting that last mess, I thought some more about the mirrors. My Firebolt mirrors were great. Think I'll put Firebolt mirrors on the 1125 and turn the running lights into my signals. There just may be 3 - 1125R mirrors on e-bay soon. L&R convex and a R with flat glass I rebuilt. Z | ||
| Baggermike |
Zack www.starrotors.com have high intensity led's I bought two sets, ten dollars for two with shipping included. I got two one set is blue but like the blue of hid lights and you can see on there website they look very bright, I also bought a set of amber that I might not use I am not sure yet have to test them and see which I like better. I was thinking of getting rid of the mirrors and buy the Rizoma mirrors that I really like but not sure right now if I want to do that the mirrors are expensive and then do not know if I could see good out of them. I am thinking of using these electrical things on the running lights and hook them up to my turn signals, they stay on and blink when the extra power of the turn signal is sent to them which shuts them off, I would use the blue ones for this if they match hid lights or the amber ones if not, the mirror turn signal would be on and the blue running light would be off and visa versa. I think that will look good, but need my bike to see how they will look, if you like them let me know and I will test them for brightness. Mike | ||
| Baggermike |
Interex I feel the same way and calling buell customer service and explain to them that I am a bike only guy and need my bike and that all three buells that I have bought new has had something wrong with it and they should send a team over to fix my bike. Mike | ||
| Interex2050 |
Zack, Thanks for the support, I really needed it. I wish I could say that it was just overfilled with oil, but the breather tube/airbox is bone-dry. When I dropped her off she had 1900 miles, and starting was still very difficult after 20miles of freeway. I did a similar thing with my brake as well, I cooked it. To my surprise it helped a bit, but even compared to the firebolt its just not there. From what I understand Buell is in the process of getting a new vendor for the mirrors, hence why they are impossible to get a hold of at the moment. You are right the firebolt mirrors are virtually indestructible, they have encountered countless car mirrors and have even seen the pavement a few times, they are still just dandy. I really like your idea for turning the running lights into turn signals, fantastic. Although I am not sure what the flasher relay is rated at, so I highly recommend that we check the rating before connecting the running lights. Mike, Thanks for the link, that is exactly what we need. Best, Peter | ||
| Interex2050 |
Mike, I will do that, perhaps they just need an extra nudge to get things going. Best, Peter | ||
| Reepicheep |
Interex... given as long as it has been, and that it's hard to imagine a scenario where this would not be a warranty scenario, I don't think asking for a commitment to a resolution date is "bitching". One week might be "out of their control", just not enough time to get an engine on a truck and to the shop and installed on the bike. But two weeks is, so its hard to imagine a scenario where any commitment date for a resolved problem would be more then two weeks out. IMHO, FWIW. | ||
| Baggermike |
If it is out there I can find it? www.starrotors.com have the cheapest HID digital light kits and would cost 250 for two kits of two, when you order the regaler kits there is an option to upgrade to digital for like 25 dollars more, and the box is allot smaller than the standard box. I want to ride in the daytime with all six lights on all looking the same, it would be hard to miss the bike coming down the road with very bright blue lights, put them on the ulysses and at daytime and night are awesome, but at night you have to be careful not to blind someone. I also seen led lights that are aux lights and real bright, led's are getting really good in brightness, use less power, and no heat. Mike | ||
| Zac4mac |
Perfect.  Just got back from the HD/BMC shop, cancelled my back-ordered 1125R mirror and ordered a set of Firebolt mirrors. They should be here in a week AND I got 20 bucks BACK! I love it when a plan comes together. Z | ||
| Unibear12r |
I agree with Reep. At this point you are not out of line for a commitment from Buell or the dealer, one or the other anyway. You might ask about swapping the engine out as rumor had it that Buell was supposed to do that for bikes that had big problems. | ||
| Diablo1 |
If that's really sand or some other abrasive grit sitting on top of your valves, then I would expect a new engine under warranty....nothing less. | ||
| Interex2050 |
Thanks guys I will be speaking to Buell probably tomorrow. We shall see what happens. Time is even more of an issue at this point as the buyer finally got the last of the gear. I must say that I am very much impressed by what he got: AGV S-4, inexpensive and really nice. Alpinstars SMK jacket, first leather jacket that I have seen with built in chest armor. Alpinestars SP-2 gloves, also very comfy but that was not a surprise as that is what I have. Sidi B-2 boots, very comfy. | ||
| Baggermike |
I am calling Buell Monday I have brought the bike to the dealership 3 times then the bike quit running, Maine has a lemon law and as of friday the 15 days are up which by Maine is the limit that is needed to be able to resolve this. I also do not think my bike will be running this week or next week or longer, the techs do not know what to do and I am calling Buell Monday. I just went through this with the ulysses and I am going to explain to them that I do not have a car and need my bike so get the techs over there to fix my bike or give me a new bike, meanwhile I will be going thru the lemon law BS. Mike | ||
| Interex2050 |
I just checked the California "Lemon Law"; 1) A Life-threatening issue have been addressed twice or more 2) The same repair has been attempted four or more times 3) The vehicle has spent 30 cumulative days at the shop All of the above applies to either the first 18 months or 18000 miles of ownership, depending on which comes first. I do not think (or hope really) that it will have to come down to this. (Message edited by interex2050 on February 17, 2008) | ||
| Baggermike |
Hey Interex Maine is different and says 15 days at the dealership so I am going to call both Buell CS and the Maine lemon law to, I should have done this with the ulysses it was in the shop for over two month, and I feel like that should earn me some bonus points in resolving this quickly. Mike | ||
| Bonjoxb12s |
Bagger, you need to call your state Attorney General's Office, and they should be able to give you the exact specs on the lemon law, or you can probably go to the website and find it posted somewhere on there. I know you are probably giving the short version (longer then 15 days), but I'd caution you to read all the fine print. Your lemon law comments seem to be waaaay too easy... of course, Maine just might have their sh$^ together!!! Best of luck | ||
| Baggermike |
I agree I got some brain damage from a accident and sometimes it is hard to figure out things but it did say 15 working days and I have been to the dealership 3 times prior to it dying so I will start the ball rolling by contacting Maine lemon low and call buell and tell them that I just went though this with the ulysses I bought at the end of june and had asked the sales man if buell was coming out with any new models and he said no and then two weeks later I find out about the all new ulysses and the 1125R then in october it broke down and was the oil pump and took them to december to get it back to me and that was over two month and I do not own a car so I have no transportation now for a month and I am paying insurance for a bike I can not even see. Mike |
