| Author | Message | ||
     Buellnewbie |
If someone would have told me how difficult it is to get rid of a Buell, I'd never have bought one. I've been trying to sell my 2006 XB12Ss for almost 6 months now and have received only 2 phone calls on it, both calls from losers wanting a free ride or wanting to rape me on price. Geez, I'm only asking $6000 for it. The bike is in mint condition, but it seems like nobody wants a Buell except for the folks on here. Anyone got any suggestions or know anyone who wants to buy a 12Ss? | ||
| Thespive |
This is God's way of telling you the time is not right to part with you Buell. --Sean | ||
| Buell920 |
You sound like a salesman at a H-D dealer.  sorry....... Try putting in your add FREE 30 MIN TEST RIDE. or you could put I'LL BRING IT TO YOU FOR A FREE 30 MINUTE TEST RIDE. ( 50 mile radius only) you got to get them on it to by it. | ||
| Ironhead1977 |
It is not just a Buell issue. No brand of bikes are selling right now.At least for a descent price. To many newbies buying and then wanting to dump them on the market for next to nothing with low miles. And no, buellnewbie this statement is not directed at you, just can't think of another way to put it. | ||
| Ratbuell |
I second Ironhead. I work in sales, and probably 3 out of 4 sales we make these days start with "I've got a..." to trade. The market is buried in used bikes right now - "barely used" all the way up to 100k daily drivers. Check out www.nadaguides.com or kbb.com to make sure you have a good price for your area. Despite what many sellers think they "need" to get out of a bike, you do have to price competitively to get interest. A difference of $200 could mean the difference between "I gotta see that" to "out of my range" to a potential buyer. Get 'em in the door first. Then, let them ride...even if you escort on another bike. It's a Buell...riding will convince  | ||
| Tom_b |
The problem is nobody wants a used buell. Used bikes are selling, i've sold 3 in the last year. the problem is either a sportbike, or a vtwin cruiser. not a vtwin sportbike.buells are a bike you either like or don't. period. You can argue all day long, but look at slow new sales and low resale value. How come so many old tubers are available with no miles from dealers? I have 5 cycles in my garage right now an 89 fj 1200, a 79 xs 1100 a 78 xs1100 a buell x-1 and a 78 suzuki 750. the one nobody will think about buying is the buell. why is that? My advise is don't buy a new buell, buy a used one and get a better deal. I'll never get my money out of my x-1, or even close. the 1125 is probably one of the few buells that will actuallly hold value, wait that is what was said about the xb series. could be wrong about the 1125 also. we will see in about 5 yrs. (Message edited by tom_b on September 14, 2007) | ||
| Trojan |
The problem is not isolated to the USA I'm afraid. Non-Buell dealers here in the UK are reluctant to take Buells as trade ins because they take so long to sell, and a lot of dealers simply refuse to touch them. Franchised Buell dealers will take them but at ridiculously low trade in prices. As for the 1125 holding it's value, that remains to be seen. It is entering the most competitive sector of the entire motorcycle market, and one that sees most models completely redesigned every 2 years at most. Sports bike customers tend to go for the latest and sharpest models available to them, and prices of even 2 year old models are very low. | ||
| Molly_hatchet |
i think the problem is a 3 year old gixxer goes for as much as a one year old buell...i couldnt give my buell away shortly after i bought it..i bet it would take all of a week to get my money back out of my CBR..at least thats how it is where im from. | ||
| Chrisb |
The used bike market as a whole is "soft" right now. A buyers market one could say. I know a guy that picked up a Ducati 1098 that was 6 mos old with a $3k exhaust for almost 7 grand off the sticker price. Even the used Harley market is soft right now. If you've ever thought about picking up a HD now's the time. After riding the 1125r at VIR Wednesday I can say I'll be waiting for the used bikes to show up, along with the fist year kinks to show their ugly head. I'm sure by the time the 09's are announced next July there will be more than a couple on the For Sale board. We all know there are plenty of guys who dont care about taking a loss on a new bike just to get on the latest toy. Newbie, You'll gonna take a hit on the bike, period. Either suck it up and take the punch or keep the bike and ride the crap out of it. Three months ago I wanted to sell my Ulysses the market went south in a hurry when the 08's came out. And I really just had "new bike I-tis" and was making a big deal out of the seat being painful to me. When I saw the hit I would have to take to sell the bike I said no, and sent a seat off to get re-done by Sargent. Life is better and the Uly is my commuter bike now. Good luck in your sale. | ||
| Reepicheep |
I bought a 2000 M2 (in 2001) for $5000 (so the seller took a big hit on it). Rode it for more then 25k miles over the next three years or so, and traded it in for $3500, can't remember. Dealer turned around and sold it on eBay, I think they got $2900 or something. Thats fantastic for a sporting standard bike. (Though I think I will kill that record.. I just got a KLR-250 for $570 and am bringing back from the grave... thats going to be pretty cost effective in terms of $ per mile...) | ||
| Mikej |
"If someone would have told me how difficult it is to get rid of a Buell, I'd never have bought one." Try being a boat owner trying to sell a boat. Try being a home owner trying to sell a house right now. Try owning a huge 30+' RV motorhome and wanting to sell it. "If you've ever thought about picking up a HD now's the time. " Yep!  The real estate company I'm affiliated with on a part time basis has a new ad campaign: Now is a great time to buy. I won't talk about the deal someone I know recently got on a used M2, let's just say he could more than double his money by selling parts off of it. Mr. Buellnewbie, Just start riding it a lot and keep a small For Sale tag taped to it someplace. The more miles you put on it the less the naysayers can say negative about it. Plus you'll be dollar-cost-averaging your use of it so when it eventually sells off you will have got something for the money instead of just an object in the corner to hang a dusty For Sale sign on. Let's say you bought it for $9,000 and sell it for $5,000 with 5,000 miles on it, that works out to a cost of $0.80 per mile. Ouch, pretty expensive ownership experience. But let's say you bought it for that same $9,000 but put 25,000 miles on it and then sell it for $4,000, that works out to a cost of $0.20 per mile. Put 50,000 miles on it and sell it for $2,000 and you'll have $0.14 per mile. The longer you keep it and the more miles you put on it the better it looks moneywise, ignoring the costs of wear items. If you're "stuck" with it, you might as well ride and enjoy it. Or worst case would be to buy a hard-tail frame and convert it to a chopper and then try to sell that off instead. Some do quite well with that option, other's just end up with hard-tail miles as they ride around with a little For Sale postcard taped to their bike someplace. YMMV. And, yes, I do know what you're feeling as I've been trying to sell my M2 off and on for awhile now. But I like riding it too, so when I think about it not selling I don't mind so much, and the enjoyment of riding it helps keep me stubborn on the price for it. I tell everyone that there's better deals out there, but if they want mine they'll have to pay my price for it. Probably why it's still in the garage, but that's okay since it's still a nice bike to ride. | ||
| Spatten1 |
Last year I was unhappy with my 9S as a track bike, so I looked for bargain GSXR 750s. None exist. They hold resale VERY well, and so do the literbikes. At the same time a two year old Buell was going for 1/2 new price or less. There are just not enough people that enjoy a hopped-up cruiser engine in a sport chassis, and the ones that do seem to buy new Buells and create too much inventory in the used market. Great news for XB buyers that are content with a good used bike. Maybe the entire market is softer now due to the people that got adjustable rate loans to suck their equity out and buy toys. I know that beat up the HD market in California last month. I'd guess that the 1125 will hold value better because it has a sport engine, which opens it up to a much bigger buyer pool. The engine does not have to be the fastest, it just has to be in the same realm. | ||
| Jimidan |
I never buy a bike with 'resale' in mind...that is simply guaranteeing that you will want to get rid of it when the newness wears off. It is just like marrying someone because you think she will be fair in the divorce settlement. It is insane. This is simply setting yourself up mentally and emotionally to be disappointed. Make your choices more carefully and then stick with your decision. I have two 96 Buells, a 92 car and an 82 van, besides other bikes that are 2000 and 2001. I had a Porsche for 20 years before I bought this car. It is not getting what you want, but wanting what you've got. | ||
| Danny |
It is just like marrying someone because you think she will be fair in the divorce settlement. I wish I'd typed that. I've never purchased anything worrying about resale value because I know I'm going to keep it until there just isn't any more (in every sense) that I can get out of it. | ||
| Spatten1 |
I purchase everything with resale value in mind if I don't think I'll run it into the ground over 10 years. That just enables me to get more toys on my budget. Millionaire Next Door style of purchasing. | ||
| Molly_hatchet |
some people like to trade or sell their toys every couple of few years...most of my friends trade their atv's and or dirt bikes in every few years or so...some of us ride our bikes hard and they get a little worn out and we might like new ones...buying with resale is always on my mind...i wouldnt buy a car that i thought the price would tank on i want it to be a good trade...if u wanna ride ur bike into the ground thats u ...not me...to me saying u buy a bike without resale is kind of weird...il be trading my CBR in next year for something else...if i ride it until it is dead then all i have is a dead pile of crap nobody wants myself included...yeah if i had a 396SS chevelle id prob keep that fer a while but i wear my bikes out fast and want the new tech and goodies that come after a few years....i loved my 386 floppy driven computer but its in a crap pile now i dont think it would fair well in todays market and dosent meet my needs anymore... | ||
| Cityxslicker |
hmmmm I seem to know where a numbers matching 1969 396SS Chevelle is. Hovers around the 14500 price... Red & Black, it is delicious. | ||
| Molly_hatchet |
nice price too the way the muscle car thing has blown up lately....make sure u email me or call when u get the 1125 in...im pretty excited to ride it....NO DIRT.... | ||
| Rex |
the way it is. roll anything, especially items like boats, motorcycles, certain cars, and you lose immediately. like one guy last night told me. never ever expect to get back what you paid for something, especially a motorcycle. think about these guys with 45,000 plus choppers...think someone is going to get their money back on those. should be some buys out there on those bikes in a couple of years... | ||
| Bonjoxb12s |
Not to sound blunt, but you clearly didnt check resale value BEFORE you bought the motorcycle. ANY Buell listed in the NADA guides usually loses value drastically over the first few years and then tends to slow down. Dont blame Buell, It's more of a lack of research issue. | ||
| Danny |
Today's trade-in value of an 06 CBR1K: $5900 Today's trade-in value of an 02 V-Strom: Doesn't matter, I'm not trading it in. Bikes I've puchased after June 02: Zero. Dollars saved by not purchasing 03 XB9r then 05 XB9SX: What? about $18000, not accounting for trade-in. Useability/Capability of V-Strom: Very high FWIW, I purchased my first computer (P2/350) in 1998 and would still be using it today if my step-daughter had not given me a faster one for Christmas 05. | ||
| Bonjoxb12s |
Post your listing under the classifieds here on Badweb.... Post on E-Bay.... Make a flier and post around local college campuses.... Craigslist.com is a very good place if there are cities in your area that use it frequently.... Make a trip to Daytona with a "for sale" sign... If you put in the effort, you'll have no problem getting rid of it. Best of Luck. P.S. Last Effort might be going to your local Buell/HD dealer and see if they will sell it on Consignment for you. We've done that a few times, and we can't keep a used Buell on the floor. | ||
| Molly_hatchet |
yes and it retails for.....Base Price $7,285 $9,585 Options Exhaust-High Performance (Street) $315 $356 Security Alarm System $100 $122 TOTAL PRICE $7,700 $10,063 Suggested List: $11,299 try gettin retail for a buell....not gonna happen....my bike is still worth what i paid for it...ive seen my exact bike go for list in the cycle trader all day long...hey to each his own...i delt with my buell not being worth a ton of money... | ||
| Crusty |
You think used Buells don't sell? Try selling a used Moto Guzzi. | ||
| Spatten1 |
You think used Buells don't sell? Try selling a used Moto Guzzi. Yeah, you gotta find a buyer weirder than us. | ||
| Beachbuell |
Buells are not an "everyone" motorcycle. You either love em or hate em. A 18 year old kid is going want the "me too" bike like all his buddies. All they care about is how fast a bike can go and if it is a "racing bike". Older more experienced riders tend to purchase Buells. Because they understand what Buells are and what they are intended for. Personally I love my XB and will never give it up. Buell sales/values may be slow, but the whole motorcycle market is in desperate times right now. With the economy the way it is and so many barely used bikes available for purchase. One would be foolish to purchase a brand new bike from the dealer showroom when they can get last years model with a few extras for thousands less. I've been in the biz for a while now and this is the slowest I have ever seen the motorcycle industry. It is kind of scary to be honest with you. | ||
| Spatten1 |
18 year old kid is going want the "me too" bike like all his buddies I think you are selling youngsters short. They are not all dumb and ignorant. Many of them know the market and want a bike that accelerates quickly and handles well, nothing wrong with that. | ||
| Spatten1 |
To add to the last comment: The 1125 will address the market for those that want power and handling. Buell can now sell to mainstream buyers. Finally. | ||
| Molly_hatchet |
ive run into many...shall we say...slightly aged fellows such as myself riding race replicas lately...rode with an R-1 on the freeway a couple of days ago and when i pulled off he followed me...the helmet came off and he had more gray hair than i do ... | ||
| Spatten1 |
Plenty of older riders ride sportbikes. I just think that the Briggs....I mean Harley engine in a sport package is unlikely to attract many younger riders. The soulful engine in the sport chassis is something easier to appreciate if 1) you've already spent years on fast bikes and are ready to slow down, or 2) you came from the cruiser segment and don't know what you are missing or don't yearn for a fast motorcycle. |
