| Author | Message | ||
     Snakedriver |
Who makes a 72 degree Twin? Answer that question and you have the new engine. 1125 CC. 148 HP 84 Ft/Lbs TQ. 10500 redline. Leo | ||
| Prof_stack |
Is it Rotax? Rotax/Buell? Buell? | ||
| Xbolt12 |
No one. Rotax is 60 degrees. | ||
| Snakedriver |
If no one makes a 72 degree twin...That can only mean Buell/Harley does! Leo | ||
| Jaimec |
Yamaha makes a 72 degree V-Twin. It's what they used in the old Viragos, and in the new V-Star cruisers. I somehow doubt we're looking at a Yamaha cruiser engine in that bike, though. Not with those hp/torque numbers. Although the original Yamaha V-Twins were air-cooled, the new engine in the 1300cc V-Star is liquid cooled. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Wakan has a 72* V-Twin. http://www.engmore.com/video.html I believe that the engine is either in house designed or is a cooperative effort with Rotax/Highland/etc. I have absolutely no proof and seek the confirmation or disavowal of my statement as either "correct" or "incorrect". I believe this to be a clean or nearly clean slate engine. Anyone still want a V-Rod engine in their bike? Were I Roehr or Fisher, I would just kill myself now. | ||
| Lake_bueller |
I just watched the video for the umptenth time today. If you freeze the frame where the show the guy installing the motor, it sure looks like a typical Rotax rear cylinder head.  | ||
| Anonymous |
 Anyone still want a V-Rod engine in their bike? | ||
| Davefla |
Well Anonymous, that pretty much says it all! | ||
| Buell920 |
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| Thepup |
I hope this is a Buell built engine and not a Rotax.If it's Rotax,and not built in America,could you still call this Buell an American bike? | ||
| Doerman |
...could you still call this Buell an American bike? Yes | ||
| Rocksham |
Showa doesn't sound American. | ||
| Thepup |
Doerman,how do you think,if this engine is not made in the USA,to me it will not be an American bike.The XB has a lot of foreign parts,but an American Engine made it American. | ||
| Jwhite601 |
I hear Carroll Shelby(possibly Ford) had some influence. Anyone heard this? | ||
| Hogs |
Well.. I guess I`ll be the Neg. one here, If it ain`t Harley Based engine air/oil cooled You can count me out.... I mean whats in it thats Harley???? Should be A new dealer store open up selling what ever kind of engine thats in it... Thanks But No thanks, Plus the front end sure looks Like Japanese to me... If I wanted a Japanese High Reving look alike Bike I would have bought one, Don`t think You will see any HArd core Harley Guys buying one of these... Shame on Eric... I wd. spend my $$$ on a Duc if I wanted a different kind of Engine etc.. Not some new off the line unit... I`m just Complaining here as I wanted to keep the HArley thing going... Not some NEw engine inserted within... Count me Out... I`ll be looking for some of them REAL good deals coming up on the Xb Buells  | ||
| Spatten1 |
Pup- You've had 2 engine rebuilds and now you want this to be a Buell engine? I can't even buy the new bike because I've poured about $2k into belts, pulleys, drive chain and sprockets, primary chain, tranny and drivegear bearings, gaskets, labor to split cases, etc. I sure don't want another HD built engine in my next bike. Nobody questions if Polaris products are American. Nobody questions if BMWs are German. The engine is the most specialized and complicated part on the bike. Leave it to the experts until you are 100% sure you have that capability in-house to build a competitive performance engine. In the meantime we can have an American bike that actually competes with Ducati, etc. It sure ain't an Austrian bike. | ||
| Ducxl |
I wonder how they arrive at 72 degrees? Space allotment? Balance? Isn't 90 degrees and greater perfect balance? Thoughts? | ||
| Thepup |
Spatten,nothing wrong with having foreign parts, just think if it is a foreign engine,will there be any parts on that bike American.I think people have come to like Buells because they consider them American,I believe that also why people pay the somewhat higher price when compared to performance.Take the American built engine away,where does that leave you? | ||
| Xlcr |
Why, it leaves you with a whole line-up of new air-cooled models based on the RR positioned below this one for those like me who personally prefer something air-cooled and Harley based. | ||
| Manofthefield |
American design and ingenuity  ... and I'm sure many other U.S. sourced parts | ||
| Ducxl |
I do agree that there may be fewer and fewer parts sourced by American manufacturers.WE DO NOT yet know the source of this new engine.That means a lot to me.I'll still buy the new model though,but my crusade continues for the American labor movement. Mr. PUP...What do you drive??? Honestly...ANY foreign vehicles in your house? | ||
| Spiderman |
I do agree that there may be fewer and fewer parts sourced by American manufacturers. To quote a great man; "that is in-acurate statement!" | ||
| Bubabuell |
Spatten,nothing wrong with having foreign parts, just think if it is a foreign engine,will there be any parts on that bike American.I think people have come to like Buells because they consider them American,I believe that also why people pay the somewhat higher price when compared to performance.Take the American built engine away,where does that leave you? I recall a layout in motorcycle mag a few years back that mentioned how most of the XB based Buell is made from foreign parts. Can't really call Buell completely American made when the engine and a few other things are about the only things that are. | ||
| Donatello |
I've always taken the "American Motorcycles" as meaning made in America, not necessarily "all American-parts" made. Just like a Corvette is an American sportscar. Either way, I am very impressed with the looks of the new bike and knowing that EB actually has a weapon to go racing with!! | ||
| Doerman |
The Buell 1125X is a package brought to us by the ingenuity of the good folks in East Troy, engine included. I do not know where they actually assemble the engine and I don't care much. The idea, execution of the project,the hootzbah to pull it off. All of that is from Wisconin, which is squarely in the US; making this an American Product. Not even potatoes from Idaho are pure American any more since the fertilizer comes from China. Asbjorn | ||
| Metalstorm |
I have no problem with gathering parts from other countries if they offer the best quality for its intended purpose. As long as the bike was dreamed up here in the U.S.A. and designed here & assembled here in an American factory, I'll call it an American made bike  | ||
| Ducxl |
I'm not getting negative regarding the new bike.But i stand by my desire to see more American labor involved in "American Motorcycles". Rotax is a generic engine manufacturer supplying a great product.I enthusiastically acknowledge that. I was trying to see if "The Pup" was sincere in his post..or not. | ||
| Ducxl |
oh yeah...bump I wonder how they arrive at 72 degrees? Space allotment? Balance? Isn't 90 degrees and greater perfect balance? Thoughts? | ||
| Chadhargis |
What makes a Buell "American" is the fact that it's an American owned company, and it's designed by Americans. They may source parts from other countries, but it's an American company with American ideas. I've met Erik a couple of times, and he didn't speak Japanese, German, Chinese, or any other foreign tongue. He spoke English. I LOVE Buell's philosophy...a new engine is all that was missing. If the rumors are true, we have our new engine, and while it won't compete in stock form with the Jap superbikes, it will be one hell of a good handling bike, you can bet on that. I'd give a quart of blood to ride one!! |
