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Archive through June 26, 2014M2typhoon30 06-26-14  01:19 pm
         

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Hughlysses
Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2014 - 01:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

M2, you may be onto something with the timing of Geoff's interview. Check out the audio interview from last week with Mark Miller a couple of threads below. Miller was one of 2 EBR riders at this year's Isle of Man TT. The interview seems to indicate new parts were used on the 2 EBR bikes at IOM. Maybe that was testing for WSBK?
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Classax
Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2014 - 02:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Geoff is a solid company man, he waited until he had clearance from Hero/EBR to express what he has. As to why, the timing its anybodies guess.
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2014 - 06:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

if new parts were tested on the IOM bikes, I dont think WSBK results will be any better, only one race (between the two IOM riders) was completed.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2014 - 11:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Listen to the audio. Neither bike suffered an engine failure in 2 weeks. Mark's DNF's were due to running out of fuel because they had difficulty getting fuel to flow back into the auxiliary tank during pitstops. Brandon had problems with the clutch until they figured out they were doing something wrong. They apparently threw the effort together at the last minute. IOM is a very difficult place to set up a bike since one lap is 30+ miles. You can't just run a couple of laps, change something, and go back out to try it and repeat within a normal practice session. With reasonable preparation time, they would have done MUCH better.
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Kenm123t
Posted on Friday, June 27, 2014 - 12:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey Guys I have fuel framers three in fact
But non of them have the Soul and feel of my M123t My S1W is brutal like a 60s tri power Vette brash loud quick in traffic.
Out of the 1125r uly Xb9 S1w and the M123t If I am going on a long ride its the M123t followed by the Uly It does every thing @ 90% as set up That Harley Thunderstorm has 97k on it the only issue rubber parts its time to replace the oil pump and gear.
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Mickeyq
Posted on Friday, June 27, 2014 - 11:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Soichiro Honda said, "Success is the 1% of your work which results from the 99% that is called failure." All of the big European mfgs laughed at Honda when they showed up at IOM...the rest is GP history. I think EBR will succeed--it doesn't happen overnight.
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Court
Posted on Friday, June 27, 2014 - 06:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've been on this boat for a long time . . . . if Erik Buell called and said he needed my life savings tomorrow . . . . I would have taken the bet in 1993 and I'd take it today.

No questions.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2014 - 09:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I went back and listened to the Mark Miller interview regarding the EBR 2014 IOM TT effort again this morning. Miller clearly says that specially prepared engines were shipped out by EBR for the team to use for the races. He says this engines had less bottom end torque which resulted in less tendency to wheelie but could rev well over 12,000 RPM reliably and that he was able to pass the BMW's on the fastest sections of the course. The teams experienced no engine failures in 2-1/2 weeks of practice and racing so the reliability appears to be there as well.

It sure sounds to me like EBR was trying an engine much more suited for WSBK competition. The question is- would this engine be legal under WSBK rules?
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Bolthead
Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2014 - 10:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

well over 12,000 RPM from a V-twin!

I'm so impressed with Erik and the elven force.
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Midknyte
Posted on Monday, June 30, 2014 - 04:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>Listen to the audio. Neither bike suffered an engine failure in 2 weeks.

this is encouraging
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Hughlysses
Posted on Monday, June 30, 2014 - 05:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yea, I think EBR HAS been working on engine improvements and hopefully we'll see them in an upcoming WSBK race.
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