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Fullpower
| Posted on Monday, February 14, 2005 - 07:11 pm: |
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court, thanks for the ducati news flash. i did my part, bought wife a 2004 M620. a very sweet little bike, i cant fault it in any way. all i can say is that if more people test rode a ducati a lot more would be sold. kinda like the XB. |
Slaughter
| Posted on Monday, February 14, 2005 - 08:03 pm: |
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Ummm - er uhhh... Ebear. you don't... uhhh... s'pose Sunny an' I could tag along? We understand about town-runs for groceries and the like - just wondering how to get the foot in the door (and our gear in the trailer if that's still an option?) How you think we could do something for this mythical Mary J? |
Jb348
| Posted on Monday, February 14, 2005 - 08:43 pm: |
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S2pengy Ummm, didn't think about that. Battery is at least two yrs old. When I bought M2 two yrs ago previous owner said it was new battery. Batteries can do weird things. Will check it out. Ohm tested coil & plug wires today. Coil OK, long spark plug wire ok, short plug wire "may" be culprit. Plug wires look like never been replaced. Thanks for tip on battery. |
Roc
| Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2005 - 12:23 am: |
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Racerboy - 5 minutes outside of Portland Oregon
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Captainkirk
| Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2005 - 12:40 am: |
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I suspect "floaters" in the tank or in the float bowl itself. To check the tank, next time this happens, pull the fuel line off the petcock and hook it up to a clean mustard bottle(or similar container that will fit your fuel line)full of gas. If it fires right up the problem is in the tank or tank vent line. Be careful not to spill any fuel on hot engine parts & have an extinguisher handy. Your vent line could be pinched under the tank as well, especially since you had the vent valve replaced. Pop the gas cap loose and see if that makes a difference.A pinched-off line will slowly starve the engine for fuel, yet return to normal fairly quickly as ambient pressure equalizes...the bike will fire back up again after a short rest. Most electrical problems worsen as the bad part (coil?) heats up and will stay bad until it cools down, usually 30 minutes or more. I had this exact problem with my Yamaha several years ago and it turned out to be a bad pick up coil. I could actually tell when it was gonna crap out within a mile or two. You can easily check the coils/ignition by popping one plug wire at a time, hooking the wire to an extra plug and laying it on the cylinder head. Fire up the engine. Though it will run pretty rough, you should see a strong and regular spark jumping the grounded plug. My brother had this problem on his M2 and it turned out to be !!!!spider parts!!!! that plugged first the petcock screen, then migrated down into the float bowl. The bike would run just long enough for the engine demand to overtake the obstructed float needle's ability to keep up with it. Go Figure! |
Bomber
| Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2005 - 08:57 am: |
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JB -- like the good cap'n said! sounds more like fuel-related to me -- althrough there certainly ARE heat-related ignition difficulties in the world, and I've had a few, most of the electrics on our scoots are reliable in the extreme -- I'm betting you've got crud on the screen that acts as a fuel filter on your petcock -- me, I trashed it and intalled a see-through in line filter between the tank and carb, but I'm just curious enough to look at it during my pre-flight -- check like Cap sez, and I'm betting on crud in the fuel system |
Ebear
| Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2005 - 10:09 am: |
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Slaughter and Sunny....Your on the "Pre-selected list of Love Shack Hooligans"Yeah,like we have a list!!hmmmm,good idea!).As the "lets Wheelie around this S-turn while puffin' a cigarette Jerry Johnson" would say just get your stuff to him the weekend before we leave(4th of July)and It'll be up there waiting!I think we'll start a list of people and tent footprints so no one will have to sleep under the RV unless they're late RSVPing! By the way,Tbear and I are going to Barber Motorsports Park in Alabama for the AMA Superbike Doubleheader in April.Seeing if anyone else is going and We would like to meet up with locals at the "GAP" the weekend before.We plan on going the weekend before and hooking up with a Bueller Roger from the CalBrag ride.He lives in Madison Alabama and is allways looking for riders to straighten out the twisties with!I've heard from some people in Florida whom are going to the races and would like to meet some of the East Coasters I've only heard of.E-mail me at work if you can...mention "Buell" in the title line so our filters don't think your Spam!......eobarrows@beckman.com } |
John89147
| Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2005 - 02:09 pm: |
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Is there a place on the BadWeb that is dedicated to Cyclones like there are for Blast's and XB's? Could we have one if there isn't? Just curious.. |
Buelliedan
| Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2005 - 03:51 pm: |
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The old school section is for the tube frame Buells which your M2 is one of |
Racerboy
| Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2005 - 04:35 pm: |
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"Racerboy - 5 minutes outside of Portland Oregon" Roc...I see the map but am a bit confused (not too unusual for me) as to the route you're suggesting...I'm guessing you mean US 26 from Portland to ???...Thanks for the help...John and I really appreciate it... Bob |
Ebear
| Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2005 - 05:44 pm: |
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Oh yeah, Slaughter....We will bring her MANY Flowers and maybe meanwhile we can think up something else too! |
Ebear
| Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2005 - 05:58 pm: |
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Please....If you are coming to Laguna and are staying with us at the "Love Shack" go to "Storm Fronts" and the second thread "A list of Hooligans" please put in you name so we can plan tent spaces...it would help if you have any idea of tent footprint!...Thanks!!even if you allready told me,my memory is pretty much shot these days!! |
Pdxs3t
| Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2005 - 06:49 pm: |
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Racerboy- I think what rock is showing you in the map is an example of the great roads just outside of Portland not matter which direction you go. |
Roc
| Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2005 - 07:47 pm: |
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Racerboy - More of a general example. However, 26 west out of Portland and take the Sylvan exit. Take a left and go back over HWY 26 then take a left at the first light, you will be on Humphrey - a knot of a road. Did you see the scale on the map? The West hills of Portland could eat an afternoon easily. I would also spend some time on Mt. Hood or the Coast. When are you going to be in Portland? (Message edited by roc on February 15, 2005) |
Jb348
| Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2005 - 09:30 pm: |
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Captainkirk & Bomber - Excellent advice. However, when the problem first began several months ago (when it happened every once in a while)I checked the vent hose ( I did find it to be slightly pinched),flushed the gas tank, inspected & cleaned the screen, cleaned the petcock and made no difference. Only recently has problem become worse so that I can't even go a half mile without it cutting off. Had battery tested today. Battery store said there were no weak or dead cells, that it was ok with plenty of juice left. I have been checking worn wires or loose connections & found none yet. However, I have not checked the float bowl for trash but will do that next. (Frankly I'm not too thrilled about pulling the carb to do that) In meantime, would a failing regulator/rectifier cause symptoms like I am experiencing? |
Kevyn
| Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 - 10:21 am: |
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...you've checked the side-stand safety switch...? |
Bartimus
| Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 - 08:26 pm: |
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JB348, I had the same symptoms with an S2 of mine, turned out to be the battery ground wire. You may want to double check your connections. |
Racerboy
| Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 - 08:37 pm: |
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Rocky and Jim...Not certain of the exact dates but it will be in early July after the 4th... We hadn't planned on going as far west as Portland and I-5 just to avoid the population center...Here's what we're doing so far after leaving the Glacier NP area...We're dropping down to Missoula and on to Lolo...Then running west on US12 into ID and WA...West of Yakima we're going NW on 410 over to Mt Ranier and then down 123...W again on 12 and then down 131 and some NF roads which appear to be paved eventually hooking up with the Wind River Rd...This will take us down the west side of Mt St Helens...Then back east on 14 on the north side of the Columbia crossing over to the south side at Hood River...We're riding the Hood River Loop run and then east to the Hell's Canyon Scenic Byway...I need to check out those National Forest Service roads we're planning on using to be certain they are paved...My mapping software (DeLorme) says they are but it has been wrong before... Thanks for your help, Bob |
Roc
| Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2005 - 12:44 am: |
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July 16th weekend there is a group ride around St. Helens. Check out the Oregon storm fronts. |
Budo
| Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2005 - 03:30 pm: |
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Well if you opened the fuel tank and it still did not start then it is not a tank/vacume problem. I agree sounds like a fuel problem. I installed a inline clear fuel filter on my 98 S1W. It served two purposes, 1) filter the fuel, 2) showed me that fuel was in fact present. The other thing you can do is this. There is a device used to check spark. It looks like a piece of clear plastic with a small bulb inside of it and a piece of spark plug on either end. You can get it at Sears or Autozone. The next time your bike quits plug in this device and check your spark. Good luck (Message edited by budo on February 17, 2005) |
99x1
| Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2005 - 08:09 pm: |
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St Paul HD has a "brand new never used or installed" Buell speedometer on eBay - with 3,113 miles on it? eBay link: St Paul Ebay Speedo |
Wyckedflesh
| Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2005 - 09:00 pm: |
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We will bring her MANY Flowers Bring them to the track on raceday with enough to make a BUELL logo under the Veranda so it can be seen in appropriate colors of course |
Racerboy
| Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2005 - 09:57 pm: |
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Check out the Oregon storm fronts. Will do Rocky and thanks again, Bob |
José_quiñones
| Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2005 - 10:08 pm: |
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Hey Outrider, Click HERE |
Another_bueller
| Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2005 - 10:15 pm: |
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Help needed. I have a '99 S3T, race ignition /EFI & exhaust. Bike just started acting up last week. Rode 5 mi on a cool day 50 deg F, started acting like it was running out of gas (took 2 gal). Stopped for fuel and turned around for home. By the time I got there bike acted like it only had one cylinder and could barely pull the hill. Next day ran 3 miles before it acted up and couldn’t pull a small hill (warmer day ~65-70 F). Changed plugs, wires, fuel filter, cleaned air filter. Checked fuel pressure (OK-50 psi at all RPM), checked vent hose, & check valve (both OK). Tried running with out the gas cap (no change). Today (low 40s) set the throttle lock to 2500 rpm and after 2/3 minuets started to run rough and when I backed the throttle to idle it died. Dealers are back logged for next 2 weeks. Any body have any suggestions? |
Jb348
| Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2005 - 10:28 pm: |
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Kevyn & Bartimus - battery ground is OK. Side-stand switch OK. I'm doing voltage regulator and ignition module/harness tests next. Sounds like "Another-Bueller" may be having similar symptoms on his S3. Thanks for your help guys. I'm open to any suggestions you got. JB |
Outrider
| Posted on Friday, February 18, 2005 - 07:16 am: |
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Jose...Lookin' Good! Thanks for the website. Interesting to see Storz changed their design a bit. FYI, Checked out the Street Rod yesterday and I like it. Also, MotorCycle Online posted a nice article about it yesterday with Pics, Vids and a Dyno Chart. |
José_quiñones
| Posted on Friday, February 18, 2005 - 07:27 am: |
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Outrider, Yep, Storz makes a great Street Tracker conversion. March 7th I plan on being on the first VRSCR Demo Ride down at Daytona. Looking forward to it. Another_Bueller Did the bike's engine light come on at any time, did you get any engine codes? Sounds like something on the Battery/Voltage Regulator/Stator loop is acting up. Check them all. Another thing it could be is the 02 sensor, the bike only acts up when it warms up, and the O2 sensor only works when it warms up. WHen you start it is in open loop until the O2 sensor warms up. Pull it out and see how much soot it has clean it up and try it again. |
Ebear
| Posted on Saturday, February 19, 2005 - 11:23 am: |
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Don't know if related but when I told American Sport Bike Al about my problem with X1 he told me to post since it could help.Started bike one morning,warmed up for a few minutes ,then started to run on only one cylinder.Could rev up but miss was too intermittant to ride far.After doing all the elect checks I pulled F.I. injector rail and found RUST and grey goo inside.Totally drained and flushed tank and found 1 1/2 cup water in gas.Cap doesn't leak,it don't rain in California and last gas I bought was at cheapie station? Cleaned out rail and hose and changed filter(which hadn't stopped grey goo!)Bike was ok after.Just my 2 cents. |
Kevyn
| Posted on Saturday, February 19, 2005 - 11:30 am: |
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RE Danny Sullivan CART RR1200 on ebay... If I had the $$...there are those of us who would ride that bike and enjoy it for what it is--a fine machine, hand-built with the best materials and technology available at the time, a testament to Erik's engineering abilities and a fitting statement about the folks who have worked beside Erik to bring his dreams and abilities to fruition...And then, there is the reality that it's a unique piece of motorcycle memorabilia, especially BUELL memorabilia and stands alone as a watermark on the pedigree and history of BUELL motorcycle evolution...I haven't been to the Barber Museum yet, but it would be comforting to know that such a special, unique and interesting motorcycle would be on display for all motorcyclists to admire, observe and study for future generations... (Message edited by Kevyn on February 19, 2005) |
Jb348
| Posted on Saturday, February 19, 2005 - 05:12 pm: |
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Captainkirk, Bartimus, Kevyn and others - well, I've tested everything I can on the M2 so I will follow Captkirk's suggestion and check the float bowl for trash. Problem seems to have worsened, sputtering and cutting off more frequently. I have already done the following troubleshoots thus far: Gas tank flushed, screen filter in tank checked,petcock dismantled & checked. Gas tank vent valve replaced, hose checked. Tried opening gas tank immediately after cutoff, made no difference. As always, I let M2 sit about 5 minutes then she starts up and goes, then it sputters and stops again. Replaced spark plug wires (due anyway). Checked all grounds and elec. connections. Permanently looped sidestand switch, no diff. Temporarily looped clutch switch, no difference. Tested coil per service manual Tested for grounded stator per service manual Tested voltage regulator per service manual Load tested battery Only other things I can think of is either trash in float bowl as you suggested or the cam sensor is bad. Any other basic things I need to check before diving into a carb for the first time? Once again your suggestions are greatly appreciated! jb |
Ebear
| Posted on Saturday, February 19, 2005 - 10:38 pm: |
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A few of the Buells allready at Barber. |
Wyckedflesh
| Posted on Sunday, February 20, 2005 - 12:17 am: |
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Tested coil per service manual Can you check it once it has died? A coil can overheat. Its not common, but it does happen. How about your kill switch? have you checked it for a short? (Message edited by wyckedflesh on February 20, 2005) |
SouthernMarine
| Posted on Sunday, February 20, 2005 - 08:03 am: |
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Just thought I'd pop in to let ya'll know I'm finally in Iraq. I'm still in transit and should be there tomorrow. I'll pop back in. For those that know, I'm in the "Armpit" right now. Ya'll take it easy and enjoy some corners for me. |
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