| Author | Message | ||
     Wyckedflesh  |
They are refering to the hydroplaning as flying as that is what it feels like. I hit an unseen deluge across the road one night on a drive back from San Fran to San Diego and the truck just seemed to have left the road because it was suddenly so smooth, sawing the wheel back and forth with no resistance and all. I don't remember the total distance I went, but I know the truck spun around about 5 or 6 times before it came to a stop. BTW the truck had 225/50ZR15 BFG Gatorbacks on the back and 215/50ZR15 Gatorbacks on the front...once it was up on the water, it was all over since I was running empty in the bed. | ||
| Reepicheep  |
And to bring things back on topic, I was riding the Cyclone through a deluge one saturday afternoon about 100 yards from the Ohio river, and went under an underpass at about 20 mph where there was about 2 inches of water covering the road. I thought. It was actually closer to about 18 inches. Water was coming completely up and over the front fender, the engine was choking, and my feet were ripped from the pegs. But the bike did NOT hydroplane. I think it is pretty difficult to get a bike to plane, especially if you have sport touring / touring tires on the thing. I rode it out, figured I probably bent a valve with hydrolock, but the thing just coughed out and kept running. At that point, I figured I was better off keeping it running and drying it out, so I just kept riding. | ||
| Bomber  |
I've hydroplaned the MaDuece with Dun205s on it -- it snuck up very slowly, as the rain covered the pavement gardually -- the symptom was a weave that the bike had never exhibited before, with the rear of the bike moving about the steering stem -- woke me right up, it did -- rolled off the throttle, slowly, and, thank goodness for small favors, the bike fixed itself (no skill except pucker factor shown by the rider at all) I doubt if I was in more that 1/4 inch of water at the time, but I was bookin, tyrin to get to an underpass -- that'll teach me! | ||
| Reepicheep |
Ahhh.. the "grip seat tightly" skillset. Used that myself now and then  | ||
| 57sporty  |
S1 and M2 fans I have a set of new Crossroads Clip on bars for $199.00 shipped O.B.O. Trying to get rid of some of parts that are needed any more. Ping me with your offer or if you want them. I can ship out ASAP. Steve Queen Please post your parts for sale ads in the appropriate Classifieds topic. Users must now login in order to view the classifieds on BadWeB. (Message edited by blake on February 09, 2005) | ||
| Charlieboy6649  |
Bomber, I too hydroplaned on my XB, running Diablos. I was headed South to San Diego from Pendleton on I-5. I was headed up a hill by Del Mar so sheets of water were running downhill against my travel. I don't know if that contributed, but as soon as I hit it, I knew it. Only discernible by the sharp raise in RPM and floating feeling, but I knew immediately. I let off the throttle and all was fine. PRAISE BE TO GOD! I was pretty shaken afterward, just glad calm overcame panic that day... | ||
| Dave  |
ANy Buellers in the Birmingham, AL area? Drop me a note please. I'd like a pointer to some good roads around B'ham. DAve | ||
| SouthernMarine  |
Thank You, I can log into BadWeb again. I changed my email address, and everytime I do, I get locked out of my account. I was finally allowed to reset the password and log in again. Man do I ever get itchy when I want to post and can't. | ||
| 2k4xb12  |
Here's something to think about regarding the cruise control sensor and wheel/ground speed. It is actually unlikely that the cruise control signal cones from the driveline. In most cases, assuming the car is rear wheel drive, the signal would come from the ABS sensor on the front wheels. If the front wheels, not being driven remain in contact, and the rear wheels begin to slip, the car will gradually lose forward momentum. The cruise control, sensing ground speed via the ABS signal woudl see the reduced ground speed and try to accelerate. As mentioned earlier -- taking off like an airplane is practically impossible for any passenger car on the road today. You'd have to have NASCAR or F1 aerodynamics. I think this myth is debunked... | ||
| Blake |
If you've ever skied barefoot you can appreciate the ease of getting a vehicle to hydroplane. No cruise control is required. Neil, I'm not familiar with the article you posted above. Too bad it doesn't give a name. I'm always surprised at the number of people running off the road into the ditch when it rains around here. East Texas is more akin to Louisiana than what most envision as Texas. We have bayous and sloughs, Cyprus trees, Spanish moss, gators, large tracts of forest, and the one and only natural lake in Texas, Caddo Lake. When someone around here says they were down at the "river bottom" they ain't talking about the bottom of the river. Ya got your rivers and then ya got your river bottoms which comprise all surrounding lands that flood annually. So it is conceivable that one could find oneself hydroplaning on the river bottom. ![: ]](http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/clipart/proud.gif) | ||
| Reepicheep |
Taking off in any modern car is simple. You just hydroplane off road and then fly off the embankment, overpass, bridge, whatever. I don't know how hard it is to highside a passenger car. If you go sideways at 65 and then get dry pavement, I would bet that would be enough, but don't know for sure. | ||
| Jlnance  |
Reep - Hitting the curb really hard will do it :-) | ||
| SouthernMarine |
I remember as a teenager, my Dad driving down a four lane Hwy in heavy rain. We were pretty much the only ones on the road, except for a car about 1/2 mile back. My Dad was talking to me about hydroplaning and the dangers, because there was a lot of standing water on the road. He was telling me that I needed to be careful applying the brakes in weather like this and proceeded to demonstrate what could happen. I know that he meant to just tap the brakes, and he did, but his intent was to have it hydroplane for a short distance and regain control. Well, for some reason the truck, yes truck, commenced to spin, we did a 360, he regained control, and we kept going straight down the road as if nothing out of the ordinary happened. I looked over at him and he looked back, "That's why you have to be careful when applying the brakes in weather this bad." Just as cool and calm as if it was a normal ride down the road. | ||
| Road_thing  |
Blake said: "If you've ever skied barefoot..." Blake, you might oughta clarify for some of the, um, Northerners present that you were referring to water skiing! Otherwise, some guy from north of I-10 will ask, "Dude, don't your feet get, like, really cold??" rt | ||
| Rick_a  |
I've hit about an 18" deep puddle doing about 40mph on my S1 with Diablo's. My feet were ripped off the pegs much like reepicheep's encounter. She didn't wiggle a bit and the front wheel threw up an impressive plume of water. I did have various electrical problems as a result, however. I've spun a pickup around a corner and recovered with it facing the wrong direction. I managed to miss the curbs and all and that's what counts. I crashed an SUV in the rain once as well...once the body starts rolling and pitching to a certain degree it's hard to control. I hate driving SUV's. The worst experience was a Metro going about 80mph in the snow. I went over a bridge where the snow got really thick. The car slowly drifted towards a piling and I gently fed steering inputs which gave no response. Scared the crap outa me...it finally started turning just when things were starting to look real bad. Dino...they had cops from other counties in different unmarked cars that didn't have the usual equipment inside. The cop told me that there were 15 unmarked cars strewn about this lot. | ||
| Loki  |
Southern, Try this one. Take one Jeep YJ in two wheel drive. Put it on I35 in december in minnesota. No nearby traffic and doing 65mph on what appears to be a dry surface. Add one real big gust of wind from the side. Then figure out that the road is icy. While doing multiple 360s down the center. I think I did three of them before stopping in the median. Sitting in three feet of snow pointing in the direction I was headed. Allow nerves to settle, get out, check for damage, survey the escape trajectory and for traffic. Put in 4low and floor it. The ensuing launch put me back on the road. Then drove the next 40 miles in 4hi and doing 50mph. It is really amazing how 4-wheel and all-wheel drive makes people brazen in the winter. The "I have 4-wheel drive and am invincible" mentality puts alot of people paying for tow trucks. | ||
| Outrider  |
Daves...Try this site for sport bike roads in Alabama. http://my.execpc.com/~ytk/al.htm | ||
| SouthernMarine |
Loki, I wouldn't want to try it. I remember a few years back while driving cross country on I40 in TN, it was raining cats and dogs. I'm flying down the road doing anywhere from 70 to 80mph. My truck feels like it's moving side to side. After a while I decide to pull over and check things out, also noticed a film on my windshield. After a close inspection of the windshield and my tires, I discovered they were completely soaked in oil. I checked my truck and it was fine. I drove carefully to the next gas station, cleaned the tires and hit the road again, stopped to clean them again. Evidently someone had been leaking oil all over the interstate. Talk about feeling like someone was watching over me. | ||
| Fullpower  |
my sportster often gets wheelspin in top gear when throttle is open on standing water, but the front always seems to hang on pretty well, never had the front float in the wet. my diesel pickup used to get rear wheelspin pretty bad when i had wide tires on, have since switched over to 8 inch wide 19.5 radials, now they dont float at all. so far the XB has been behaving itself with the Metzeler Z6 tires, it gets my back wet, slings water everywhere, but grip has been good. | ||
| Josh_  |
Joe Rocket Mesh for $89.95 at Kneedraggers. Use coupon code ODCWJ6-U8 for additional 10% off (total of $80.95) | ||
| Aesquire  |
On a racing bicycle, with 20 mm wide tires ( yeah 20mm ) slicks are fine, since the hydroplaning speed is about 200 mph. I've been lucky, or chicken on a motorcycle, but I've slid a Grumman delivery truck ( dual rear wheels ) 180 degrees on dew. From 57 or so mph. In the same truck, while driving in a snowstorm down 390 in Rochester NY, a gust of wind from behind folded both external mirrors forward and pushed me from 40 up to 70+. With both feet flat on the floor. | ||
| Jerry_haughton  |
what a frikkin' awesome surprise!  a "mystery" guest pulled up to the ThunderDome this afternoon, unannounced and unexpected, and when the helmet came off there stood Mr. Dave Barr! (www.davebarr.com) WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this visit is due, entirely, by the efforts of my friend and brother Jim Bantz II, aka JB2, and i was so excited by the chance to finally meet and bs with Mr. Barr that i'm STILL riding high. JB2, you know how i feel about that. WOW! Ferris Bueller (Message edited by jerry_haughton on February 09, 2005) | ||
| Jb2 |
Dave is rugged, unique and genuine individual. One of many I've met through motorcycling and he's one that almost anyone who's thrown a leg over a motorcycle would be glad to call a friend. 'Course I met many of those other rugged, unique and genuine individuals through Ferris Bueller and PACBOG. The opportunity to connect the dots had a big arrow-shaped neon sign in three colors pointing to it saying "JB2, here's your chance, don't fork-up now!"  | ||
| Blake |
Too cool. | ||
| Henrik  |
Very cool Ferris! So is this. Those skill would certainly come in handy for maneuvering and parking in NYC. Henrik | ||
| Ebear  |
Just totally COOL , Ferris..!!!Betcha that was an interesting conversation!!  By the way,I'm looking for a story that was posted here last week somewhere....It concerned a guy who's wife just wanted to cuddle so he took her shopping and when she had picked out some stuff he told her she couldnt buy it,just hold it for a while....anyone remember where that was ?? | ||
| Ccryder  |
Anybody tried out this jacket? looks like a neat idea for a 3-4 season jacket (IMHO).  List is $299, I've seen them for $227 (with shipping) TIA Neil S. | ||
| Wyckedflesh |
Ebear click here for story | ||
| Ara  |
Dave in B'ham - Your e-mail is hidden. I can help you up in the Huntsville area, if interested. Not knowledgeable about the Birmingham area. | ||
| Blake |
Neil, Didn't Joe Rocket come out with something like that a couple years ago with their "Lightspeed" jacket? I saw it at the IMS in Dallas in 2003. I was intent on purchasing one, but after seeing what all was involved in transforming it from warm day to cool day mode (installing removable liner), I thought better of it. I prefer to carry a goose down vest in my pack for days where a warmer jacket is needed in the mornings but not later in the day as temperatures climb; I'll even wear it backwards putting the zipper to my back, on particularly cold days. Spider claims that their cordura nylon shell is waterproof. That is highly doubtful. For waterproof and breathable, there is one reliable solution that I know... GoreTex. |
