| Author | Message | ||
     Mikej  |
Shane, If you wander back through then check the StormFront sections. Daves has posted a bunch of track day info. Take care. Mike. | ||
| Peter  |
TERRORISM ALERT IN FRANCE AP and UPI reported that the French Government announced yesterday that it has raised its terror alert level from Run to Hide. The only two higher levels in France are Surrender and Collaborate. The raise was precipitated by a recent fire which destroyed France's white flag factory, effectively disabling their military. ...and before anybody goes all PC on me, it's just a bloody JOKE.... ok? | ||
| Jerry_haughton  |
for anybody who's been privvy to the saga of my DMV-of-California "quarantined" motorcycle (it's a long story -- remind me to remind Court to remind me to tell the story sometime...), the DMV just called, said i'd been badly misinformed when i bought the bike in Colorado last September, that i'd made a good faith effort to abide by CA DMV rules as they had originally been stated to me, and, as such, they are forthwith releasing the "hold" on the scoot and that my registration, title, and license plate should be arriving in the mail in about a week.  | ||
| Awprior  |
Congrats Ferris! FB triumphs (or V-Stroms) over the state of California. I'll toss one back in your honor. | ||
| Jerry_haughton |
thanks Alex. er, just ONE???  | ||
| S2pengy  |
Great news Jerry!!!!!!! | ||
| Unibear12r |
Great news! Ferris charms the hearts of California's DMV and CARB? There's STILL some humanity in California government? WOW! I (of so little faith) am stunned. Way to go Jerry! | ||
| Al_lighton  |
I am very surprised to hear it, but that is WAY COOL!!! That means it is staying in california? And that we get to use it for the hill climbing demo at the Thunderdome at about 2AM the Friday of Oktoberfast? All right!!! Congrats! Al | ||
| Dino  |
Hmmm, good thing Ferris didn't get it painted yet. | ||
| Jerry_haughton |
thanks guys, it's great news indeed, now i can quit steali...borrowing Denise's bike. UberBear, yes, still some humanity left. the lady from the DMV (director of the "Compliance" division -- sounds like MY kind of place...) couldn't have been any more pleasant. hmmmm, maybe this decision came down from the office of the Governator? Al, yes, it stays. so, shall we incorporate the hill climb into the 2nd Annual Contest of Manliness??? | ||
| S2pengy |
The Terminator gave your bike a repreve Jerry!!!!! | ||
| Mikej |
Congratulations Jerry. Could you give a thumbnail sketch of what is required to bring a bike into that Remind me to tell you about the time Calif. threatened to extradite me back to California for unpaid vehicle registration on a car that was retitled in Wisconsin before the California registration expired. Yeah, and people wonder why folks want to split that state up into thirds.  | ||
| Jerry_haughton |
Mike: i like California just the way it is, but if they're gonna divide it into thirds i want all the twisty roads in the state renamed Ferrisville (NO CARS EXCEPT CORVETTES ALLOWED!), and the fruits and nuts and illegal aliens can have the rest. in brief, a Cali resident may NOT purchase a 49-state motorcycle with less than 7500 miles showing on the odo. this is the simplified version, and there are a few exceptions, but this is the gist of it. (See California Air Resources Board Sections 43150 through 43156 here for all the legalese – use the “Browse Next Page” “Browse Previous Page” buttons to cruise around.) i was told by the CA DMV when i bought the ‘Strom, however, that a Cali resident COULD buy a 49-state scoot with less than 7500 miles providing that BEFORE the bike crossed back into California it had at least 7500 on it, which i was able to accomplish (with some effort) on my ride with JB2 back in September (see "Out of Words", Tale Section). i was told wrong, however, but took good notes at the dealership in Colorado, including noting the names of the two CA DMV employees who gave me the bum info while i was researching the purchase. this, along with my documentation (motel and fuel receipts and photographic proof that ALL 7500-plus miles were logged outside of Cali), was enough, apparently, to convince the DMV that my intentions were honorable, and they, in my opinion, did the right thing by making an exception and releasing the "hold" on the bike. as UberBear said above, "WOW! I (of so little faith) am stunned." indeed. | ||
| Mikej |
I'm surprised too with their gray zoning the letter of the DMV laws. I guess the only workaround would be for you to have taken a 7,500 mile "test ride" on the bike, then do the sales receipt with the new mileage on it. That's one of the big things I didn't like about California laws, their attempt to control what you can and can not purchase outside their borders. A bit too heavy handed for my tastes. Nice state, apart from the politics and legislation. It's kind of funny/strange in that I'd have to sell some things I own that I originally purchased in California when I was a resident there before I could ever move back there again. But most likely never to be. I'll stop now before I get moderated.  | ||
| Jerry_haughton |
I guess the only workaround would be for you to have taken a 7,500 mile "test ride" on the bike, then do the sales receipt with the new mileage on it. good idea in retrospect. at the time i didn't need a workaround, so i thought, based on what i was told. made for a good story, anyway. I'll stop now before I get moderated. custodianated??? | ||
| Sarodude |
Saro in Toronto Hey, I always said LA was too hot for me. I'm diggin' the real winter up here! Had an amazingly productive series of discussions today. I thought I'd just take up space but I'm glad that wasn't the case. Still planning on hitting NY Friday night so if anyone's not got plans (I realize the MC show probably has folks tied up) drop me note. -Saro | ||
| Midknyte |
Well, after too many web pages and telephone voice trees, I finally got my answer. Share'sies for anyone else who would like to know... I have a desire to move to SoCal and have been wondering what I will have to do with my vehicles to enter the state, namely my Firebolt. Cars and motorcycles, as mentioned above, must be over 7500 miles on the odometer. Outside of fees, that will be determined at time of registration  , cars are subject to smog/emissions test. Motorcycles are not subject to tests (yay!). I was concerned, as probably anyone would, that my lil' friend would be subject testing and/or probing at the hands of some, well, you know. That is happily not the case. Jerry, did they make you put a charcoal can on your bike? | ||
| Jerry_haughton |
Bradley, the CARB (California Air Resources Board) requirements i linked to above (CARB rules, but enforced by the DMV) apply only to *current* Cali residents - you should have no trouble bringing your cars and motorcycles in. call the CALI DMV at 800/777-0133 (tell 'em Ferris sent you) and they can fill you in. BY ALL MEANS take good notes, including first and last name/s of anyone you talk to and date and time of call - you never know when a little extra information might get you out of a tight spot. if in doubt as to something they tell you, and the item in question could be critical, have them fax the info to you. still, you should have no probs since you are not currently a resident of this fine state. where abouts are you thinking of relocating to? | ||
| Court |
Saro: Henrik is spoken for so you are mine...all mine Friday night. That can be, simutaneously, a "good thing" and a "bad thing". Let's start with the simple stuff. Which side of the sidewalk do you pass on where you are from? Send me your cell phone number again ... a bit of a crazy weekend, but we'll make certain your are appropriately Gothamized. Court | ||
| Turnagain  |
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| Jerry_haughton |
Jerry, did they make you put a charcoal can on your bike? no. the surrender was unconditional. (Message edited by jerry_haughton on January 19, 2005) | ||
| M1combat  |
Holy cow... That looks like way too much fun to be any good for my health... | ||
| Al_lighton |
Bradley, YOU can bring a less than 7500 mile 49 state vehicle into the state if you move here. A California resident can not bring a less than 7500 mile vehicle into the state, unless that person is a silver tongued wizard like Jerry. Used to be they hit people like you up for a big fee when they brought a vehicle in. It was deemed unconstitutional and refunds were made. Al | ||
| Bartimus  |
Well Ferris, Congrats on your recent win over the Calif DMV! LOL I look forward to seeing this new toy in all its chrome and painted glory this spring at the AZ SpringFast! You WILL be bringing it, right? | ||
| Sarodude |
Court- WRT sidewalk passing: Do you mean in a car, on a motorbike, or a unicycle? -Saro PS - You have mail. | ||
| Midknyte |
Jerry - Cula Vista Al - Thanks for that tidbit. I told my wonderful wife, upon the news that I'd need to put some miles on the bike to bring it in, first thing out of her mouth is "you wanna ride it out there?". Bless 'er  | ||
| Jerry_haughton |
Bad Billy Bartimus: affirmative. | ||
| Usroute66  |
Jerry...GREAT News! As a non-native of Cali who would just soon be a native, because I love this state so much (and have been living here since '83), U my friend have truely worked the system to win! Congrats. I actually this month fought a parking ticket where my bike was parked in a certain location in a parking garage...and WON...WOW...it does happen! And I want you to know...this past weekend as Ebear took me down muddy roads laiden with ragging rivers and creeks (only to completely dirty up a black bike that was so clean), we arrived on Ortega Hwy. and your delima was the talk of the BRAG meeting. Your news is good news! | ||
| Jerry_haughton |
thanks Scott. gotta watch that EBear feller, he's sneaky like that. i don't know that i so much worked the system as got lucky. the notes i took in Colorado helped, as did the photos and story i posted here on BADWEB (which i referenced in my letter to the DMV to help corraborate my position as to my overall original intent). and, as i pointed out to them, i could see no fundamental difference in terms of potential impact to California air quality by me buying a 49-state bike with 7500 miles already on it, which is legal, and buying a 49-state bike with 1 mile (as in my case) and putting on 7500 miles somewhere ELSE before bringing it into the state. if ya can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, baffle 'em with bs. i tossed about everything i own at 'em, and, really, i think just got lucky. so, now that i know you'll take your Aprilia off-road, i fully expect you to compete in the 2nd Annual Contest of Manliness Rap-off, Hillclimb, and Bristlecone Enduro Sponsored by American Sport Bike at Oktoberfast 2005. i hear the loser has to drink light beer. | ||
| José_quiñones  |
HARLEY-DAVIDSON ANNOUNCES RECORD FOURTH QUARTER AND 19TH CONSECUTIVE RECORD YEAR |
