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Davegess
Posted on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 04:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

can't you place the order then blame the suppliers?

I have done that!

Thanks guys.
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José_quiñones
Posted on Thursday, April 15, 2004 - 07:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



Interesting to see what models decreased and which ones increased production units compared to the same time last year.

Looks like the new Sporty is a hit so far.
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José_quiñones
Posted on Thursday, April 15, 2004 - 08:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

PS, BUELL/HD Lurker, please tell somebody to update the HD/Buell Registration Statistics page on the mother ship's website with the 2003 numbers, Buell included. Thanks!

edited by josé_quiñones on April 15, 2004
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Lake_bueller
Posted on Thursday, April 15, 2004 - 09:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looks like the V-Rod isn't the end all for H-D. The production numbers are 1/2 of last year. The almost equal the current XB numbers.

I've heard nothing but great things about the new Sportster. There are 2 people at work that are ordering new models within the next week or so.
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Bomber
Posted on Thursday, April 15, 2004 - 09:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

interesting figures -- units down, revenue up -- let the analysis begin!
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Mikej
Posted on Thursday, April 15, 2004 - 10:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wonder what the numbers look like with the 100th Anniversary sales and costs removed.

Look at their "cash" at the beginning and ending of the periods. Fairly interesting. Probably meaningless.
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Lake_bueller
Posted on Thursday, April 15, 2004 - 10:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looks like they bought back a bunch of stock. That would explain the decrease in cash.
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Mikej
Posted on Thursday, April 15, 2004 - 10:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And the early bucket load of it as well.
Now, why exactly does a company buy back stock....
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José_quiñones
Posted on Thursday, April 15, 2004 - 10:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

interesting figures -- units down, revenue up -- let the analysis begin!




For Buell? Yeah, I guess they are selling the more expensive XB12's than the 9's or Blasts so the revenue would be greater despite the lower total # of units shipped.

The VROD, I think they are reaching the saturation point for $17,000 power cruisers with foot forward ergonomics, if they lower the price (more black less chrome) and make the bike more ergonomically friendly and add better touring capabilities, look out.

It's still their best selling model in Europe as far as I know.

Notice also that Touring bike production increased while "custom" production decreased, the VROD is affected by this also as tastes seem to be leaning towards the more practical "touring" bikes versus the "custom" bikes.
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Loki
Posted on Thursday, April 15, 2004 - 11:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Why buy back outstanding stock?

- It is considered outstanding debt, most stock is issued(sold) to finance something (expansion). Why use your own money when someone will give you theirs on a bet its value will increase.

- Fewer shares in circulation does funny things to a stocks value.

just my take on things......

loki
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Bomber
Posted on Thursday, April 15, 2004 - 11:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Like Loki sez . . . .

also, consider this . . . . .you buy it back at $X, and hang on to it for a while, say 6 months . . . .. during that time, the price will increase, you hope (less supply, presumed constant demand) .. . .. (btw, during that time, your outstanding debt is in better shape, perhaps making your stock look more attractive, and possibly increasing demand/price) . . ..

you sell the stock you bought back, for more money than you paid for it, and ya gots some dough to spend on, oh, I dunno, a V-Rod with rational control locations . . .. . . ..

just guessing, of course . . .. (btw, there are some companies that actually generate more revenue doin this kind of thing than they do selling products
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Outrider
Posted on Thursday, April 15, 2004 - 02:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Additionally, companies that buy back their own stock do so in order to implement internal changes of all sorts without having to answer to as many stock holders when entering uncharted waters.

Check the history of utility and oil stocks and you will see what I mean. Oh, and you are correct about the move driving the price up after the corrections have been implemented.

Perhaps you folks have just discovered a "Buy Signal."
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Davegess
Posted on Thursday, April 15, 2004 - 10:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Alright all you computer guys what is wrong with my PC? Win 2000 machine. I leave it on all the time, last night about 4 am the screen came on, it is usually in power saver mode, but I figured maybe the virus scan had kicked it on. Anyways this morning it is locked up. I can bring the screen back up but painfully slow, and I mean 3-4 minutes to remove the screen saver.

End up hard booting it and on the reboot it just does not fully boot. It gets windows almost completly loaded, I can see my desktop icons but no background picture. What seems to be happening is that something is not loading. Teh task manager shows 100% cpu usage, most of the time it is SYSTEM at 98% or so but occasionally that drops down to 4-5% and several items jump up but the system stays at 100%. for brief moment it drops to 4-5 % cpu usage but than right back up. I have let it sit for anhour and no change.

Any ideas.
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Dino
Posted on Thursday, April 15, 2004 - 10:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Generally speaking, a company buys back stock if they consider the stock to be undervalued by the market. Shareholder equity is a liability, but is different from other debt (which does not confer equity.) Some companies pay no dividends on stock at all...revenue is plowed back into the business. Investors are betting on the come (growth). Buying back stock to influence the stock price is risky at best. No, if you're gonna buy back stock, it should be because you think the stock is worth more to you than the money you're paying for it. An interesting thing to hear from the people who ought to know, what?
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Dino
Posted on Thursday, April 15, 2004 - 10:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh, and you would likely have to buy back an awful lot of stock to make a significant change to voting dynamics in order to make a implementing internal changes easier...unless you knew that you had a voting block that was just short of a majority.
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Bluzm2
Posted on Thursday, April 15, 2004 - 11:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dave,
You may have caught a cootie!
Do you have a bootable antivirus CD?
If so, this would be a good time to use it...

I'm fighting a little nasty right now myself. F**king spyware!
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Josh_
Posted on Friday, April 16, 2004 - 01:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'd boot with a newish antivirus disk and run anti-spyware asap.

see if you can startup in safe mode.
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M1combat
Posted on Friday, April 16, 2004 - 02:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Press F8 just after the post (just before you see anything windows). Choose "command prompt only" or "Safe mode - Command prompt" or whatever it is. That shoudl give you a c:\>

Type Chkdsk c:

There are command line options if you use chkdsk c: /?
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Davegess
Posted on Friday, April 16, 2004 - 08:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Now it won't respond ot my keyboard, I have a fancy wireless job. I tried the one off this XP machine I am now using and same deal, no respone to the keys. I will try and borrow a different one and see what happens.
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Hootowl
Posted on Friday, April 16, 2004 - 08:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

chkdsk c: /r

It will most likely tell you it has to reboot at this point. The disk scan will start before Windows mounts the volume during the next boot.

This may take a while, so be patient...
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Reepicheep
Posted on Friday, April 16, 2004 - 09:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Your wireless keyboard is probably USB. Depending on your bios setup and how old your computer is, the computer might not recognize USB keyboards until after the windows drivers loads (I.E. windows has booted).

You can probably go into the bios and change it to accept a usb keyboard.. but the rub is... to do this... you have to hit F1 (or something) during boot, and if you could do that, you would not need to go into the bios setup in the first place : ( Annoying, huh!?!?

Get a normal keyboard and hook it up... not one with a small rectangular connector, but one with a small round connector (ps/2). If that does not work, you are having some sort of hardware meltdown. Make sure your CPU is seated firmly, as are all cables (hard drive side and motherboard side), as are your RAM simms. Blow the dust out and wiggle stuff. Make sure all the fans spin without scary noises.

Generally, the thing I have been seeing fail most often is now motherboards. The story I heard was that somebody stole the formula for a competitors capacitor electrolyte, and started using it. Problem is, the competitor knew it was being stolen and tainted it. Said capacitors, used in just about every motherboard coming from Tiawan (which is just about every motherboard), ran for between 1 and 3 years and then started blowing caps. I have replaced 7 failed motherboards in the last two years with blown caps. Caps shouldn't blow. I doubt the story is completely true, but its a good story.

If your motherboard is gone, you are screwed, but you can probably move the disk and recover your data (but not your installed programs) if you are careful. But it will be a pain.

Power supplies are the next most common failure, but are cheap and easy to replace, so you might want to slap another one in and just give that a try if you suspect a hardware problem. You can borrow one from the same computer you took the keyboard from ; )

Anyway, if you can get it to run at all and recognize the keyboard, set the bios to boot from CD. Put in your windows 2000 disk, boot from it, do whatever to get to a recovery console, and do what hoot said.

If you just want to recover data, or just test your hardware independent of the operating system, burn one of those self booting Linux CD's (i.e. Knoppix) and just boot the system up from CD.
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Sarodude
Posted on Friday, April 16, 2004 - 10:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Knoppix ROCKS. Now back to our regularly scheduled programming...

-Saro
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Davegess
Posted on Friday, April 16, 2004 - 10:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looks I have something to do Saturday : (

I tried a different keyboard and got a response by wiggling the connection but than only once so sounds liek it may be a connection problem at leaset for the keyboad.

My machine was built by my network admin using what he felt were the best component sso hoepfully the mother board is OK.

The thing almost boots. Perhaps it is hanging up trying to recognise a peice of hardware, like the keyboard that is behaving badly. I will have to play more tomrrow, as I am off to the country today. Not on the bike unfortunatly.
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99x1
Posted on Friday, April 16, 2004 - 01:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I purchased a Accel voltage regulator a couple of weeks ago - thinking a brand name and a lifetime warranty would be a good idea. After the second ride on the bike, the Accel failed - re-installed the HD regulator and it has continued to work fine. The Accel online catalog states a lifetime warranty, (Pg 27), while online ads boast a "limited" warranty. I was told the unit would have "comprehensive installation and warranty" information - it shipped with a 3" x 4" piece of paper that is titled "Accel Voltage Regulator Installation and Warranty Information", but there is no mention of the warranty on the sheet. After finding a number online to call (216-688-8300 x500), and going through a long tree, the system warns you the wait time is at least 20 mins - each time you call. As I reside in Canada, cross-border shipping can be very expensive (esp UPS), so I needed confirmation it is actually worthwhile to pursue a warranty claim. Prior to ordering, no-one seemed to know if the regulator is a shunt or series regulator, and this information is not mentioned anywhere. The regulator had to be drilled to fit (the holes were too close together to get the screws to start), so I've probably voided the warranty anyway.
Maybe I'll just buy two cheap no-name regulators and carry a spare....
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Hans
Posted on Friday, April 16, 2004 - 08:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wireless keyboards need batteries !?.
Hans

edited by Hans on April 16, 2004
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Geofg
Posted on Saturday, April 17, 2004 - 02:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wireless keyboards need batteries !?.

Since they've got no wires, and they need power to transmit a signal, yeah, they need batteries. BUT it doesn't take a whole bunch of juice to do the job. My logitec wireless keyboard has had the same set of batteries for nearly a year now, and they aren't even close to running out.

-Geof
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Davegess
Posted on Saturday, April 17, 2004 - 10:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am tracking my problem down but it is a pain. It seems that I am getting errors on service controller and dcom. I am going to try and run windoctor to see if that helots.

it took several attempts to get it to do an actual shutdown so I wasn't doing hard boots. Than I got it to boot in safe mode but witht he same problem, it never finishes booting properly.
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Davegess
Posted on Saturday, April 17, 2004 - 11:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rossi on the pole in South Africa. Very cool. Superbikeplaent said this woudl be an interesting year because the best ider is on not quite the best bike.

Nicky Hayden fourth BTW.
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M1combat
Posted on Sunday, April 18, 2004 - 12:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Have you added any hardware lately? I still think booting to safe mode (F8 during boot just before you see anything from windows) and running a scandisk would temporarily get it up.
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Smitty
Posted on Sunday, April 18, 2004 - 10:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think Biaggi will eat his words abour Rossi beating him last year because he had a better bike. Rossi looked good and beat his own lap record. I cant wait for this afternoon im keeping the shortwave off so I wont know the outcome.
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